Help on a workout plan

find a good baseball workout. getting big is not always the best thing for a baseball player. getting powerful and strong is. go squats and a lot of core lifts to strengthen your whole body. eat ALOT, but good food. shoulder training should be done with more light weight higher reps...and surgical tubing exercises

Getting big is not going to improve velocity. What it's going to do is create imbalances in the shoulder which can be fatal. I would ask a trainer to get on a core based workout and speed training because that's what pitching is.

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Originally posted by Bustamove:
Getting big is not going to improve velocity. What it's going to do is create imbalances in the shoulder which can be fatal. I would ask a trainer to get on a core based workout and speed training because that's what pitching is.

Getting big has nothing to do with imbalances to the shoulder.

Yes it does, getting big is a result of lifting heavy upper body weights which will not help a pitcher and as I said will create imbalances. When doing a weight room workout you only accelerate. In functional training you accelerate,decelerate, and stabilize. You can't just accelerate in you're training if you're a pitcher.

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Originally posted by Bustamove:
Yes it does, getting big is a result of lifting heavy upper body weights which will not help a pitcher and as I said will create imbalances. When doing a weight room workout you only accelerate. In functional training you accelerate,decelerate, and stabilize. You can't just accelerate in you're training if you're a pitcher.

You didn't qualify your statement before. All you said was getting big creates shoulder imbalances which is a ludicrous statement by itself.

What do you mean you only accelerate with weights? Of course you stabilize and decelerate with weights as well.

Gaining muscle mass from lifting from upper body exersizes doesn't create muscle imbalances. Avoiding a complete upperbody workout creates the imbalance .

I mean using machines will cause problems with the shoulder, sorry I should have said that. I think John Doyle said something to the effect that machines in the weight room are very dangerous as well.

Yes, machines should not be used in 99% of all cases because they are not ground based, do not develop proper movement patterns, do not increase stability, force the user in a pre-determined joint groove and basically have very little carryover to what you do athletically...can you tell I don't like machines?