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Here's another "obscure" rule

B brookspw10+ posts
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SITUATION 11: R1 is on third and R2 on first with one out. B4 hits a sinking line drive to center field. R1 tags properly and goes home, while R2 is off with the hit. F8 makes a great catch. R2 is beyond second base as F8 throws back to first in an attempt to double up R2. The ball goes into the dugout with R2 still between second base and third base. R2 touches second base and goes back to touch first base. RULING: The ball is dead and R1’s run will count. R2 will be awarded two bases from the base he had at the time of the pitch (first base), so he will be awarded third base. If the defense properly appeals R2 being beyond second base at the time the ball went dead, R2 will be declared out. R1’s run would still count. (5-1-1g-3, 8-2-5, 8-2-6d-1, 8-4-2q)


I don't understand the reasoning of the bolded part. He is allowed to do this as long as he retouches 2nd base, right? Why would this be the rule?
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piaa_umppiaa_ump5,000+ posts
ths isnt obscure at all.......and these situations are coming directly from the NFHS case book and include all the references you need... but in case you dont have a case book here is your answer...

In NFHS rule 5-2-2b a runner may not return to a base that he left too soon on a caught fly ball if he was on or beyond a succeeding base when the ball became dead.....

All this means is that if he was beyond second when the ball became dead, he not entitled to retag first and is subject to a proper appeal and can be called out.......
B brookspw10+ posts
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Originally posted by piaa_ump:
ths isnt obscure at all.......and these situations are coming directly from the NFHS case book and include all the references you need... but in case you dont have a case book here is your answer...

In NFHS rule 5-2-2b a runner may not return to a base that he left too soon on a caught fly ball if he was on or beyond a succeeding base when the ball became dead.....

All this means is that if he was beyond second when the ball became dead, he not entitled to retag first and is subject to a proper appeal and can be called out.......


Obscure to me, I meant. I'm obviously not an umpire, but a baseball dad and fan.

Thanks -- that makes sense. Any thoughts on the automatic strike discussion?
MU Mr Umpire100+ posts
It may seem obscure b/c it is a FED rule. Not sure for NCAA.

In OBR, for this type of play, the runner would be able to go back to 1B and retouch provided he was beyond 2B BEFORE the ball went OOP. If he went beyond 2B AFTER the ball went OOP, then he would not be able to go and retouch legally. And, then is liable to be called out on a proper appeal.

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