quote:Originally posted by bbscout:
Scorekeeper, It is angels, not angles.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
I think (for the most part) you guys are all correct when saying too much importance is placed on the gun reading. However, it really is important to some degree. I don’t think the best scouts and recruiters place too much importance on velocity. I think they place about the right importance on it. Personally, I think parents place more importance on it than scouts. Scouts will often like the guy who throws 89 better than the guy throwing 92. The parents of the boy throwing 92 might not understand why. The parents of the boy throwing 75 will argue the gun is over rated. We all have a natural tendency to adjust our thinking to our own situation. I know, because I’ve also been guilty of that.
The only point I’m trying to make is… Regarding the topic at hand…. Why would anyone care what the average high school velocity is, even if there was a way to accurately determine that? It’s absolutely meaningless to any young pitcher IMO. Furthermore, if the average velocity was, lets say, 73 mph… What does that tell you? If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case. I did see a knuckle baller get an offer once, but his fastball was 77-81.
If someone wants to try an experiment… Call any DI college in the country… Tell them your son is a great pitcher with command and good movement on all his pitches and he has great HS stats, but he throws his fastball in the 70s.
Then after talking to that recruiter, set by the phone and wait for him to call back. Let us all know how long it takes!
I think it’s important that parents and young players get good information. I think it’s important that a high school kid throwing in the 70s understands how the system works. Then they can strive to do whatever they can to have a realistic chance.
Velocity is far from the only thing that counts, but it is one thing that does count! And you don't need a radar gun to tell the huge difference between 90 and 80 and 70. The radar gun only stamps a number on it! If someone is a good pitcher who doesn't throw hard, who cares about the radar gun? Just enjoy what you have.
Lastly... Someone mentioned the average speed as being the easiest to hit. I do believe that it can be more effective throwing far below average than average. Far above average is a lot better though.
The only point I’m trying to make is… Regarding the topic at hand…. Why would anyone care what the average high school velocity is, even if there was a way to accurately determine that? It’s absolutely meaningless to any young pitcher IMO. Furthermore, if the average velocity was, lets say, 73 mph… What does that tell you? If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case. I did see a knuckle baller get an offer once, but his fastball was 77-81.
If someone wants to try an experiment… Call any DI college in the country… Tell them your son is a great pitcher with command and good movement on all his pitches and he has great HS stats, but he throws his fastball in the 70s.
Then after talking to that recruiter, set by the phone and wait for him to call back. Let us all know how long it takes!
I think it’s important that parents and young players get good information. I think it’s important that a high school kid throwing in the 70s understands how the system works. Then they can strive to do whatever they can to have a realistic chance.
Velocity is far from the only thing that counts, but it is one thing that does count! And you don't need a radar gun to tell the huge difference between 90 and 80 and 70. The radar gun only stamps a number on it! If someone is a good pitcher who doesn't throw hard, who cares about the radar gun? Just enjoy what you have.
Lastly... Someone mentioned the average speed as being the easiest to hit. I do believe that it can be more effective throwing far below average than average. Far above average is a lot better though.
Don't know how that happened, but I posted it twice.
PGStaff,
Excellent advice, but I still believe it would be much better directed at the parents, rather than the players.
I’ve found that players seldom worry about the actual velocity number as much as people think they do. Like hitters evaluating themselves against their competition and having a very good idea how they compare, pitchers pretty much have that ability too. But those not on the field actually playing the game have a much more difficult time doing that, and generally, parents haven’t got any clue at all.
But a good as that advice is, its difficult to get people to believe it when there’s such a whoopdeedoo about velocity. We’re beat on by the message from the time the kids throw that 1st pitch in kid pitch ball. Even on these bulletin boards where supposedly the brightest of fans/coaches/parent/players supposedly exchange ideas, the velocity message beats on us every day.
Here’s part of a post made on another board.
Help on making cuts please
I am the asst. coach of my MS baseball team and I need help on the 10 or so pitchers. Only two are already in, a short skinny pitcher that threw 68 MPH sidearm, and a fat (think Engleberg in bad news bears) outfielder/pitcher who threw 82 MPH.
After some discussion, here’s a subsequent post the same guy made.
One of those man children
He is really huge, like 5' 9'' and 225 pounds. I doubt he'll grow anymore... but who doesn't want an eighth grader who can throw 82???
This guy’s typical! He sees a fat kid he doubts will grow any more as someone not only he wants as a P, but believes every other coach in the world would want also, just because he throws hard.
Excellent advice, but I still believe it would be much better directed at the parents, rather than the players.
I’ve found that players seldom worry about the actual velocity number as much as people think they do. Like hitters evaluating themselves against their competition and having a very good idea how they compare, pitchers pretty much have that ability too. But those not on the field actually playing the game have a much more difficult time doing that, and generally, parents haven’t got any clue at all.
But a good as that advice is, its difficult to get people to believe it when there’s such a whoopdeedoo about velocity. We’re beat on by the message from the time the kids throw that 1st pitch in kid pitch ball. Even on these bulletin boards where supposedly the brightest of fans/coaches/parent/players supposedly exchange ideas, the velocity message beats on us every day.
Here’s part of a post made on another board.
Help on making cuts please
I am the asst. coach of my MS baseball team and I need help on the 10 or so pitchers. Only two are already in, a short skinny pitcher that threw 68 MPH sidearm, and a fat (think Engleberg in bad news bears) outfielder/pitcher who threw 82 MPH.
After some discussion, here’s a subsequent post the same guy made.
One of those man children
He is really huge, like 5' 9'' and 225 pounds. I doubt he'll grow anymore... but who doesn't want an eighth grader who can throw 82???
This guy’s typical! He sees a fat kid he doubts will grow any more as someone not only he wants as a P, but believes every other coach in the world would want also, just because he throws hard.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
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If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case. I did see a knuckle baller get an offer once, but his fastball was 77-81.
If someone wants to try an experiment… Call any DI college in the country… Tell them your son is a great pitcher with command and good movement on all his pitches and he has great HS stats, but he throws his fastball in the 70s.
Then after talking to that recruiter, set by the phone and wait for him to call back. Let us all know how long it takes!
I think it’s important that parents and young players get good information. I think it’s important that a high school kid throwing in the 70s understands how the system works. Then they can strive to do whatever they can to have a realistic chance.
Velocity is far from the only thing that counts, but it is one thing that does count!
Let me start with saying I’m not disagreeing with you at all.
Having said that, IMHO the strongest messages you send with statements like those are, D1 is the only truly worthwhile college ball, and if you don’t pay someone to go to showcases you’ll never have a chance to play in one of those programs.
I think it’s a shame that things have gotten to the point where there’s so much baseball snobbery, and I find it tragic that having the money to be able to afford going all over the place to the showcases makes such a huge difference in whether or not players get to compete on an equal basis.
Yes, a lot depends on one’s perspective, but I don’t think anyone can deny that $$$$$$$$$ play far too important a role in the whole thing.
Maybe the fat kid will lose 40 lbs and end up throwing 90! 
Why would a coach go on a message board to ask who he should choose to cut? Not much of a coach in my book, what do you think?
Velocity not the radar reading has always been thought of as a good attribute, even before the gun was invented. I'm not very familiar with the very youngest of age groups, but are there people using radar guns at those games?
If so, I can see a bit clearer what people are talking about here.
I disagree with your statement about "parents haven't got any clue at all." I've seen many parents who have much better than a clue. I'm sure you didn't mean "all" parents. The comment I made earlier about parents should also be corrected to not include all parents, all the time. But I've actually seen very good baseball people, even scouts and college coaches, who can not see their son in the same unbias way they see others.
Anyway, it's been fun talking about this stuff, even if we did get a bit off the subject at times.
Why would a coach go on a message board to ask who he should choose to cut? Not much of a coach in my book, what do you think?
Velocity not the radar reading has always been thought of as a good attribute, even before the gun was invented. I'm not very familiar with the very youngest of age groups, but are there people using radar guns at those games?
If so, I can see a bit clearer what people are talking about here.
I disagree with your statement about "parents haven't got any clue at all." I've seen many parents who have much better than a clue. I'm sure you didn't mean "all" parents. The comment I made earlier about parents should also be corrected to not include all parents, all the time. But I've actually seen very good baseball people, even scouts and college coaches, who can not see their son in the same unbias way they see others.
Anyway, it's been fun talking about this stuff, even if we did get a bit off the subject at times.
quote:Let me start with saying I’m not disagreeing with you at all.
Having said that, IMHO the strongest messages you send with statements like those are, D1 is the only truly worthwhile college ball, and if you don’t pay someone to go to showcases you’ll never have a chance to play in one of those programs.
I think it’s a shame that things have gotten to the point where there’s so much baseball snobbery, and I find it tragic that having the money to be able to afford going all over the place to the showcases makes such a huge difference in whether or not players get to compete on an equal basis.
Yes, a lot depends on one’s perspective, but I don’t think anyone can deny that $$$$$$$$$ play far too important a role in the whole thing.
Scorekeeper,
I'm sure you haven't been around here long enough to determine the messages I send.
You are assuming some things that couldn't be further from the truth. Now I'm starting to think one of two things.
1 - You do not know much about me or what my beliefs are. (Which I hope is the case)
2 - You have some other reason for these assumptions.
If you check back far enough, you will find just the exact opposite message coming from me. Many many times! I spent many years as a small college coach.
And It's hard to understand how telling someone NOT to waste money on showcases is making $$$$$$$$$$$ far too important of a role.
Here is exactly what I said
quote:If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case.
How you got what you did out of that, I don't know!
Was just kidding with you Jerry, but you don't give yourself enough credit, somebody has to do it for you.
You have made huge contributions to the ressurrection of baseball. More than you know.
peace shep
You have made huge contributions to the ressurrection of baseball. More than you know.
peace shep
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Maybe the fat kid will lose 40 lbs and end up throwing 90!
Why would a coach go on a message board to ask who he should choose to cut? Not much of a coach in my book, what do you think?
I agree, but you’ve gotta be careful when you tell that to some people, and you’ve gotta understand that when people are talking about different levels pf play, its inevitable there’ll be different levels of coaching too.
I can assure you that fellow took more shots than he had people agreeing with him.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Velocity not the radar reading has always been thought of as a good attribute, even before the gun was invented. I'm not very familiar with the very youngest of age groups, but are there people using radar guns at those games?
If so, I can see a bit clearer what people are talking about here.
I assure you that there are guns being used at games starting with the very lowest of kid pitch leagues! Just this week I’ve been in “discussions” where people(dads) insist that using radar on kids is the greatest thing since sliced bread!
Here’s part of a post that should give you just a teeny bit of an idea what’s going on way below where we’re talking about.
I think radar has been a great tool for measuring my 12 yo son's progress from his early 9 yo seat-of-the-pants pitching mechanics up through his current and more highly refined mechanics.
Granted that’s only a very small part of the thread, but I think you can easily see that using radar on kids is not only common, many people encourage it!
One of the reasons I’m finding this particular board so stimulating is, it very seldom deals with the ignorance found so often in the lower levels. Don’t get me wrong, those boards are great because they really do help disseminate a lot of much needed information, but its really difficult for me, having a son who’s been away from that level for at least 8 years to still have to deal with people arguing about some of the things they get their undies in a bunch about.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:I disagree with your statement about "parents haven't got any clue at all." I've seen many parents who have much better than a clue. I'm sure you didn't mean "all" parents. The comment I made earlier about parents should also be corrected to not include all parents, all the time. But I've actually seen very good baseball people, even scouts and college coaches, who can not see their son in the same unbias way they see others.
You are correct. I definitely didn’t mean “ALL” parents. But, as you can probably guess, I was considering the parents of much more than HS level players.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:Anyway, it's been fun talking about this stuff, even if we did get a bit off the subject at times.
Another difference between the different levels is, its easy to see there’s a much higher level of maturity here than on boards that deal with lower levels. Evidently you haven’t been insulted by anything I’ve said, and I know I haven’t been bothered by what you have said to me. Its just a discussion board.
But try to have these same kinds of discussions with someone just beginning the journey and you’ll see very quickly that people get upset and personally offended much more easily.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PGStaff:
Scorekeeper,
I'm sure you haven't been around here long enough to determine the messages I send.
You are assuming some things that couldn't be further from the truth. Now I'm starting to think one of two things.
1 - You do not know much about me or what my beliefs are. (Which I hope is the case)
2 - You have some other reason for these assumptions.
If you check back far enough, you will find just the exact opposite message coming from me. Many many times! I spent many years as a small college coach.
And It's hard to understand how telling someone NOT to waste money on showcases is making $$$$$$$$$$$ far too important of a role.
Here is exactly what I said
If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case.
How you got what you did out of that, I don't know! [QUOTE]
Well, your 2 assumptions are both correct to at least some degree.
I’m sure I will learn more about you and your beliefs over time, and I hope I won’t alienate you too much before that happens. ;-)
I do have other reasons for my assumptions, but that’s only to be expected. I’m very much more of a “NURTURE” than a “NATURE” guy, and that means I believe we all are the sum of all of our unique experiences. IOW, I understand that I am the way I am because of the things that have happened to me in this life, and that means I have to deal with my own biases and prejudices as well as yours, and everyone else’s.
Without going into an even longer and more drawn out explanation, basically I have a built in aversion to anything that tends to leave players out of the loop. Unfortunately, money and connections come under that aversion. I guess my leftist approach to life is beginning to show. ;-)
Let’s look at your quote for a second, and maybe I can at least give you some understanding of how I got what I did out of it.
It isn’t your 1st sentence that bothered me at all! That’s why I said I wasn’t disagreeing. But that 2nd sentence pushed a button.
Maybe I don’t think like everyone else does, but I interpreted that as saying there are only 2 reasons to go to a showcase. 1) get exposure to major colleges, and 2) put money in the pocket of the promoters of the showcase. So what I read was, the promoters will gladly take your money knowing they aren’t offering any value for it at all.
Sorry, but that grinds my gears.
Since I don’t have any way at all to know what really goes on in the board rooms of the companies who promote showcases, I surely can’t say they’re really these slimy guys who’d take the food money from some poor guy knowing full well his kid had zero chance of getting any value at all. Hey, its America and those folks are only selling a service. Caveat emptor!
But it would surely make me more comfortable seeing a bit more openness from the promoters, to the point where they explain the criteria they know the colleges will be looking for, before the guy writes the check.
I guess I’m just not at all comfortable with the process, and have my doubts as to its real worth. I hope that at least explains a little bit. I’m reluctant to go into more detail, simply because I don’t know who looks at this board, or for that matter who you are.
Suffice it to say I’ll be one of those whackos who’ll come off the wall with something you won’t understand once in a while. It isn’t personal, its just the way I feel based on my past experiences.
Scorekeeper,
I'm sure you haven't been around here long enough to determine the messages I send.
You are assuming some things that couldn't be further from the truth. Now I'm starting to think one of two things.
1 - You do not know much about me or what my beliefs are. (Which I hope is the case)
2 - You have some other reason for these assumptions.
If you check back far enough, you will find just the exact opposite message coming from me. Many many times! I spent many years as a small college coach.
And It's hard to understand how telling someone NOT to waste money on showcases is making $$$$$$$$$$$ far too important of a role.
Here is exactly what I said
If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case.
How you got what you did out of that, I don't know! [QUOTE]
Well, your 2 assumptions are both correct to at least some degree.
I’m sure I will learn more about you and your beliefs over time, and I hope I won’t alienate you too much before that happens. ;-)
I do have other reasons for my assumptions, but that’s only to be expected. I’m very much more of a “NURTURE” than a “NATURE” guy, and that means I believe we all are the sum of all of our unique experiences. IOW, I understand that I am the way I am because of the things that have happened to me in this life, and that means I have to deal with my own biases and prejudices as well as yours, and everyone else’s.
Without going into an even longer and more drawn out explanation, basically I have a built in aversion to anything that tends to leave players out of the loop. Unfortunately, money and connections come under that aversion. I guess my leftist approach to life is beginning to show. ;-)
Let’s look at your quote for a second, and maybe I can at least give you some understanding of how I got what I did out of it.
It isn’t your 1st sentence that bothered me at all! That’s why I said I wasn’t disagreeing. But that 2nd sentence pushed a button.
Maybe I don’t think like everyone else does, but I interpreted that as saying there are only 2 reasons to go to a showcase. 1) get exposure to major colleges, and 2) put money in the pocket of the promoters of the showcase. So what I read was, the promoters will gladly take your money knowing they aren’t offering any value for it at all.
Sorry, but that grinds my gears.
Since I don’t have any way at all to know what really goes on in the board rooms of the companies who promote showcases, I surely can’t say they’re really these slimy guys who’d take the food money from some poor guy knowing full well his kid had zero chance of getting any value at all. Hey, its America and those folks are only selling a service. Caveat emptor!
But it would surely make me more comfortable seeing a bit more openness from the promoters, to the point where they explain the criteria they know the colleges will be looking for, before the guy writes the check.
I guess I’m just not at all comfortable with the process, and have my doubts as to its real worth. I hope that at least explains a little bit. I’m reluctant to go into more detail, simply because I don’t know who looks at this board, or for that matter who you are.
Suffice it to say I’ll be one of those whackos who’ll come off the wall with something you won’t understand once in a while. It isn’t personal, its just the way I feel based on my past experiences.
Surprising as it might seem, I think I actually understood all that.
Now I have to ask another question. You are not the guy who used to post here by the name of something "eye" are you? He was from California as well and your post kind of reminded me a little bit of him. I might have been the only one who actually grew to like him. Hope that's not the way it works out this time.
Guess I still don't understand how you interpreted this comment the way you did...
If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case.
I would think that, that is advice to "NOT" spend any money!
Now I have to ask another question. You are not the guy who used to post here by the name of something "eye" are you? He was from California as well and your post kind of reminded me a little bit of him. I might have been the only one who actually grew to like him. Hope that's not the way it works out this time.
Guess I still don't understand how you interpreted this comment the way you did...
If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case.
I would think that, that is advice to "NOT" spend any money!
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Surprising as it might seem, I think I actually understood all that.
YAHOO!
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:Now I have to ask another question. You are not the guy who used to post here by the name of something "eye" are you? He was from California as well and your post kind of reminded me a little bit of him. I might have been the only one who actually grew to like him. Hope that's not the way it works out this time.
No! I can honestly say that until the 1st week in January, I’d never seen nor heard of this BB. However, I truly wish I’d have known it was her in 1999! It would have very likely made my and my son’s HS baseball career more enjoyable.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:Guess I still don't understand how you interpreted this comment the way you did...
I guess you’ll have to take it on faith that I don’t interpret things quite the way everyone else does, and live with that quirk. Its not that I’m trying to be an a** or just argue, its that I really try to be honest about how I see and feel about things.
If I knew you better and we were conversing privately, or we were sitting in the shade in the backyard having some kind of cool adult beverage on a 105 degree day, I feel confident I could explain myself in a way you would more easily understand.
But its no big thing! I really like being challenged. I’m old and don’t have that many challenges left, other than just staying alive! ;-)
4 more days and I’ll be able to transfer a lot of this energy into goin’ down and watchin’ tryouts and the early practices of the season.
Ouch! I guess I'm one of those ignorant dads who gets curious and wonders how fast his kid is throwing about twice a year. 
(I don't own a gun but I've had some coaches tell me) I also check his ht and wt about 3 times a year! Some how I can't see how it's so wrong to check on your own kids progress now and then. If he see's somebody checking with a gun HE wants to know his progress. He likes to see how high he can jump, how much he can lift, he even likes to hit at fields with fences so he knows how far he's hitting! I'm actually thinking of timing him in the 60 this yr so he can chart his progress.(didn't do that with 23 yr old)
I'm not quite getting why it might be wrong to check ht,wt,vertical, velocity, and 60 time, or are some ok and others not?
(I don't own a gun but I've had some coaches tell me) I also check his ht and wt about 3 times a year! Some how I can't see how it's so wrong to check on your own kids progress now and then. If he see's somebody checking with a gun HE wants to know his progress. He likes to see how high he can jump, how much he can lift, he even likes to hit at fields with fences so he knows how far he's hitting! I'm actually thinking of timing him in the 60 this yr so he can chart his progress.(didn't do that with 23 yr old)I'm not quite getting why it might be wrong to check ht,wt,vertical, velocity, and 60 time, or are some ok and others not?
Innocent, Do not feel guilty!
IMO, there's nothing wrong with what you're doing. It's all OK if that's what you want to do.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with what you're doing. It's all OK if that's what you want to do.
Thanks PGStaff, (big sigh) I'll fix my shorts and get some sleep!
Scorekeep..
I think what PG is trying to tell you: Sometimes a synopsis will do. Topical sentences are good, too.
I think what PG is trying to tell you: Sometimes a synopsis will do. Topical sentences are good, too.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
I think (for the most part) you guys are all correct when saying too much importance is placed on the gun reading. However, it really is important to some degree. I don’t think the best scouts and recruiters place too much importance on velocity. I think they place about the right importance on it. Personally, I think parents place more importance on it than scouts. Scouts will often like the guy who throws 89 better than the guy throwing 92. The parents of the boy throwing 92 might not understand why. The parents of the boy throwing 75 will argue the gun is over rated. We all have a natural tendency to adjust our thinking to our own situation. I know, because I’ve also been guilty of that.
The only point I’m trying to make is… Regarding the topic at hand…. Why would anyone care what the average high school velocity is, even if there was a way to accurately determine that? It’s absolutely meaningless to any young pitcher IMO. Furthermore, if the average velocity was, lets say, 73 mph… What does that tell you? If you are a junior or senior throwing 73 mph, I do not think you should be spending any money going to showcases as a pitcher. Not if your purpose for going is to get an offer from a major college. It just isn’t going to happen in nearly every case. I did see a knuckle baller get an offer once, but his fastball was 77-81.
If someone wants to try an experiment… Call any DI college in the country… Tell them your son is a great pitcher with command and good movement on all his pitches and he has great HS stats, but he throws his fastball in the 70s.
Then after talking to that recruiter, set by the phone and wait for him to call back. Let us all know how long it takes!
I think it’s important that parents and young players get good information. I think it’s important that a high school kid throwing in the 70s understands how the system works. Then they can strive to do whatever they can to have a realistic chance.
Velocity is far from the only thing that counts, but it is one thing that does count! And you don't need a radar gun to tell the huge difference between 90 and 80 and 70. The radar gun only stamps a number on it! If someone is a good pitcher who doesn't throw hard, who cares about the radar gun? Just enjoy what you have.
Lastly... Someone mentioned the average speed as being the easiest to hit. I do believe that it can be more effective throwing far below average than average. Far above average is a lot better though.
That was a great post Jerry. I hope that many people here read it, because it was well thought out and very true.
quote:Originally posted by Bum:
Scorekeep..
I think what PG is trying to tell you: Sometimes a synopsis will do. Topical sentences are good, too.
Well, the world today seems to want all communications bundled up into nice short sound bites or sentences, and that’s all good. But the trouble with that is, more often than not, there’s misunderstanding to the point where either the wrong message is sent, or the message is misunderstood and causes many subsequent messages to be sent in order to clear everything up.
Sorry, I ain’t built that way. I’d much rather take the time to try to explain something as well as I’m able the 1st time, rather than spend the next week trying to get things straight.
IB, what SK is alluding to is the dad who guns every single pitch his 9 or 10YO throws in every game. And very often those same dads who gun every pitch are those whose primary emphasis when working with their son is velocity. And in this part of the world anyhow, that is getting more common.
IMHO, that is not healthy. Please note, I am not saying that you are one of those dads.
Sure everyone today is curious what speed their kid throws. But young pitchers need the emphasis placed on mechanics, not the gun reading. Come to think of it, some older youths could use the same...
IMHO, that is not healthy. Please note, I am not saying that you are one of those dads.
Sure everyone today is curious what speed their kid throws. But young pitchers need the emphasis placed on mechanics, not the gun reading. Come to think of it, some older youths could use the same...
And is the pitcher throwing strikes and getting outs
