What's the process to start doing long toss?
After warming up, is it a step up process or do you start trying to throw as far as you can?
How many throws do you make at the distances?
thanks.
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There is no one way to long toss. Alot of people subscribe to different methods. But one thing is for sure it is a gradual moving out process on the throws. You do not just warm up and then see how far you can throw it.
Here is how we do it.
Stretch the upper and lower body very well. Jog for about 6-8 minutes.
With your partner start about 30' apart and start throwing just to get loose. Move back to about 60' and continue to get loose. Make sure that you and your partner give a target and try to hit the target on every throw.
Once you are loose you are ready to begin your long toss session. Start at 90' and make 5 throws to a location that your partner gives. No crow hop just step and throw. Move back to 120' and make another 5 throws but put in your crow hop. Move back to 150' repeat. Move back to 180' repeat. Move back to 210' repeat. When you reach a distance that you can not throw on a line to your partner (Here is where there are differing opinions) put some air on the throw so you can reach the intended distance and hit your target dont just launch the ball. Others will say throw it on a line and let it bounce. When you reach a distance where you can no longer controll the location of your throw and you are having to put alot of arc on the ball work back in in 60' increments. In other words 5 throws from 150' then 5 throws from 90'. We finish off with 5 throws from 90'. Then we stretch again upper and lower and run 6-10 minutes. Then we use the tubing and get in about 15 minutes of tube work. This has worked well for us. There are tons of long toss programs. There are many different ways that people long toss and differing opinons. One thing is for sure a consistent long toss program promotes a heathly arm and a stronger arm. Good Luck
Here is how we do it.
Stretch the upper and lower body very well. Jog for about 6-8 minutes.
With your partner start about 30' apart and start throwing just to get loose. Move back to about 60' and continue to get loose. Make sure that you and your partner give a target and try to hit the target on every throw.
Once you are loose you are ready to begin your long toss session. Start at 90' and make 5 throws to a location that your partner gives. No crow hop just step and throw. Move back to 120' and make another 5 throws but put in your crow hop. Move back to 150' repeat. Move back to 180' repeat. Move back to 210' repeat. When you reach a distance that you can not throw on a line to your partner (Here is where there are differing opinions) put some air on the throw so you can reach the intended distance and hit your target dont just launch the ball. Others will say throw it on a line and let it bounce. When you reach a distance where you can no longer controll the location of your throw and you are having to put alot of arc on the ball work back in in 60' increments. In other words 5 throws from 150' then 5 throws from 90'. We finish off with 5 throws from 90'. Then we stretch again upper and lower and run 6-10 minutes. Then we use the tubing and get in about 15 minutes of tube work. This has worked well for us. There are tons of long toss programs. There are many different ways that people long toss and differing opinons. One thing is for sure a consistent long toss program promotes a heathly arm and a stronger arm. Good Luck
You might take a look at this manual. It has a pretty good throwing program and at $10.00 plus $4.00 shipping it is a good deal. It also covers weight training.
http://www.asmi.org/asmiweb/conditioningprogram.htm
http://www.asmi.org/asmiweb/conditioningprogram.htm
I checked out a DVD called "Thrive on Throwing" from Jaeger Sports at the local library. It has a very detailed explanation of long toss. It has clarified some of the explanations I have seen on this board before. I must confess however that this old arm of mine cannot tell the difference between a stretching throw that doesn't hurt the arm and a regular throw. Anybody that can help explain that, please comment. (my mind understands the concept but my arm doesn't understand whether or not it is applying the concept, thus how do I help my 12u do it right?)
How many days a week should i do the long toss program?
I did the one i read on this today and im wondering when i should do another one.
Thanks
plp556
I did the one i read on this today and im wondering when i should do another one.
Thanks
plp556
Anyone?
I think every 3 days is plenty, especially if you will be doing any bullpen work
In the off-season, at least every other day, when a pitcher is trying to develop arm strength, more repetitions are required--up to 100, with one third of those being at the maximum distance.
Forty to 50 throws are usually adequate to warm-up and stretch the arm.
Pitchers should start out standing approximately 50 feet apart and gradually back up to a distance just beyond what they can throw in the air to their target.
In season, the amount of throwing needs to be monitored carefully especially if a pitcher is a relief pitcher. A relief pitcher may only throw 15-20 pitcher in a game but throw 75-90 pitchers in the bullpen while waiting to go into the game.
Rule of thumb 15 pitches per inning X 7 innings for high school equals 105 pitches maximum for a high school pitcher, for a college pitcher maximum X 9 innings = 135 pitches.
Long toss should be done the day after pitching a complete game as it stretches out the arm and helps with blood circulation in the arm.
source: Coaching Pitchers, Joe "Spanky" McFarland, 2nd ed. Leisure Press, Champaign, ILL
Forty to 50 throws are usually adequate to warm-up and stretch the arm.
Pitchers should start out standing approximately 50 feet apart and gradually back up to a distance just beyond what they can throw in the air to their target.
In season, the amount of throwing needs to be monitored carefully especially if a pitcher is a relief pitcher. A relief pitcher may only throw 15-20 pitcher in a game but throw 75-90 pitchers in the bullpen while waiting to go into the game.
Rule of thumb 15 pitches per inning X 7 innings for high school equals 105 pitches maximum for a high school pitcher, for a college pitcher maximum X 9 innings = 135 pitches.
Long toss should be done the day after pitching a complete game as it stretches out the arm and helps with blood circulation in the arm.
source: Coaching Pitchers, Joe "Spanky" McFarland, 2nd ed. Leisure Press, Champaign, ILL
quote:I think every 3 days is plenty, especially if you will be doing any bullpen work
Agree.
1) Follow dad4boys' advice and spend the $14 and get the Pitcher's Training Manual from ASMI
2)use it!!!
3) Follow Coach May's advice on how to conduct a long toss session. There are probably a half a dozen "right" ways to do long toss [that WILL help you and NOT hurt you] - and ten times that many wrong ways to do it [that MIGHT help you and PROBABLY will hurt you].
2)use it!!!
3) Follow Coach May's advice on how to conduct a long toss session. There are probably a half a dozen "right" ways to do long toss [that WILL help you and NOT hurt you] - and ten times that many wrong ways to do it [that MIGHT help you and PROBABLY will hurt you].