How to tell coach/trainer im not playing for his team

TPM posted:

Matt13 posted:

Some times the question one asks isn't the one that needs answering.

I agree with that one.

People don't realize, sometimes these questions asked raise other questions. I guess sometimes people read things into what's written differently.  

Coach May,

That was a very nice post. TY, we have known each other for a very long time.

Some of our new posters, IMO, don't really realize how this place isn't just a baseball site. Just as an example, next week while in NY to watch a qualifier for the WBC, I will meet with a friend who is one of the moms who used to post here, whose son made the team, who also played at Coastal with CDs son.  We have known each other for many years.

That's how it works around here, usually.

Hopefully you can talk her into coming back to post on here.  

CaCO3Girl posted:

TPM posted:

Matt13 posted:

Some times the question one asks isn't the one that needs answering.

I agree with that one.

People don't realize, sometimes these questions asked raise other questions. I guess sometimes people read things into what's written differently.  

Coach May,

That was a very nice post. TY, we have known each other for a very long time.

Some of our new posters, IMO, don't really realize how this place isn't just a baseball site. Just as an example, next week while in NY to watch a qualifier for the WBC, I will meet with a friend who is one of the moms who used to post here, whose son made the team, who also played at Coastal with CDs son.  We have known each other for many years.

That's how it works around here, usually.

Hopefully you can talk her into coming back to post on here.  

I might. Her son is in the milb system and probably will make the 40 man roster this fall, but to be honest many just move on.

Different reasons, but mostly because of the negative stuff said to old timers.  

JMO

Maybe it could be once a kid gets out of high school parents might go to a college baseball site?  I wouldn't worry too much about negative stuff taken personally on a high school baseball website.

TPM posted:

I like to help people but it's hard sometimes, this post is one of the reasons why.

One thing that I have had to learn is that if you really think that what you have to say is valuable and people should take it to heart then don't put a stumbling block in their way with your attitude and tone.

BigJay posted:

Maybe it could be once a kid gets out of high school parents might go to a college baseball site?  I wouldn't worry too much about negative stuff taken personally on a high school baseball website.

The problem with that concept is that for SOME kids they are all interconnected.  It's not a common "problem" but generally it is the parents of the above average players that seek out this site so while it may be an interconnected issue for 1% of the general population I would speculate it's an issue for 20-40% of this site.

A player gets recruited in high school for college, if they are lucky, so they are very interconnected.

Then for even less of the population high school and the MLB draft are combined.

College 3rd year vs. College 4th year there are again MLB draft considerations for a very small minority of players.

There is advice on here about D1, D2, D3, JUCO colleges...then there is NCAA vs. NAIA...some of these have scholarships, some don't, some might....it's all very complicated.

The older posters who have been there and done that have a right to be frustrated with us newbie's.  It's akin to a newly graduated teacher telling the teacher who has been teaching for 20 years "the correct way to teach things"...on a rare occasion us newbies have a point, but on many more occasions we just don't know enough to accurately gauge what is going on so basically we make a stand on quicksand, usually the quicksand that the older posters warned us about but we didn't listen. 

It can get frustrating and yes some have hot button issues that they are just tired of explaining and can be a tad rude about it to the newbies and some just say "Well, if you guys know so much then YOU have fun navigating this crazy recruiting world" and they leave, which is actually a bad thing since this world is very complicated, NOTHING is straight forward, everything is in double talk and without these people who have already translated these words it makes it more likely us new people will make errors in our translations.

BigJay posted:

Maybe it could be once a kid gets out of high school parents might go to a college baseball site?  I wouldn't worry too much about negative stuff taken personally on a high school baseball website.

As a parent of athletes of various sports, a HS coach, an ex-athlete, a (sometimes) club coach, I can tell you that there are no other sites for baseball or any other sports as comprehensive as this one that takes a player and parent from youth ball through the professional ranks.  The primary focus covers those approaching HS years, those in the HS years and HS players looking to transition to college ball.  So, while the name of the site may not be the perfect descriptor, I don't know if another name would be any better.  

One of your earlier posts was a perfect example of how those who have been down the path can help those currently in HS with aspirations to continue on.

I would be curious of your experience if you have found other helpful resource sites.

Welcome to the site.

BigJay posted:

Maybe it could be once a kid gets out of high school parents might go to a college baseball site?  I wouldn't worry too much about negative stuff taken personally on a high school baseball website.

This site is what it is.  While it's true that many if not most of the users here have kids who are in college or beyond, there are plenty of us who have kids who are playing in HS. (Though for many in this group the process of helping our kids get to the next level is a major topic of conversation.)  So if you want to talk HS baseball, have it it. I'd love to see more talk about actual HS ball.

I am very happy to have the insights and inputs of many people who have been there before.  I could do without some of the amateur psychoanalysis.   Think more along the lines of Dragnet - "Just the facts, ma'am."

Teaching Elder posted:

I am very happy to have the insights and inputs of many people who have been there before.  I could do without some of the amateur psychoanalysis.   Think more along the lines of Dragnet - "Just the facts, ma'am."

There are psychological aspects to success in baseball and every other aspect of life. Being a coach in sports, management in the business world or a parent also means being an amateur psychologist. 

RJM posted:

Teaching Elder posted:

I am very happy to have the insights and inputs of many people who have been there before.  I could do without some of the amateur psychoanalysis.   Think more along the lines of Dragnet - "Just the facts, ma'am."

There are psychological aspects to success in baseball and every other aspect of life. Being a coach in sports, management in the business world or a parent also means being an amateur psychologist. 

Humm interesting RJM....and how does that make you feel?

Yes.  Yes.   Tell me about your mother.

Teaching Elder posted:

Yes.  Yes.   Tell me about your mother.

My mother fits all twenty characteristics of narcicissism. What she couldn't achieve she BS'ed people into believing she had accomplished it. Due to her difficulty in accepting her imperfections she demanded perfection of me to the point if mental and emotional abuse as a child. I wasn't upset when she abandoned my father and me when I was ten. That left me only dealing with an alcoholic father who didn't come home until the bars closed. I parented on the Costanza theory of "If everything my parents did was wrong, do the opposite." Sometimes reality looks a lot different than perception if you can get inside the door of the big brick house. Any more questions?

RJM posted:

Teaching Elder posted:

Yes.  Yes.   Tell me about your mother.

My mother fits all twenty characteristics of narcicissism. What she couldn't achieve she BS'ed people into believing she had accomplished it. Due to her difficulty in accepting her imperfections she demanded perfection of me to the point if mental and emotional abuse as a child. I wasn't upset when she abandoned my father and me when I was ten. That left me only dealing with an alcoholic father who didn't come home until the bars closed. I parented on the Costanza theory of "If everything my parents did was wrong, do the opposite." Sometimes reality looks a lot different than perception if you can get inside the door of the big brick house. Any more questions?

 

If anyone starts talking about cigars in dreams I am sooooo off this thread ;-)

I thought about a remark about sending her a text, a la that poster from yesterday.  But, I thought that now might not be the time for levity.

Sometimes it's not just children who can be the disappointments, huh?

RJM posted:

Teaching Elder posted:

Yes.  Yes.   Tell me about your mother.

...I parented on the Costanza theory of "If everything my parents did was wrong, do the opposite." ...

 

It's amazing how much we learned from a show about nothing.

I had a dream that Bill Clinton and I were a couple of porpoises frolicking in the ocean, and we would jump up out of the water and spew water out of our little blow holes. -  From the Murphy Brown show sometime in the early 90s. 

These last few comments explain a lot!

Hello all.

Getting back to the 2017LHP's question, one observation I had was that he seemed very concerned about preserving the relationship with the coach. I believe that showed he had respect for the man. This young guy  is learning how to navigate relationships of all kinds and I believe that he's learned a lot from this year's transpirings.  One poster here said something that I always tell my 2018C,  that is he should be careful not to burn bridges.  For a young man who may have made some mistakes along the way this last summer season, he achieved the ultimate goal of preserving the relationship as well as moving to another team- along with learning the lessons needed before it was too late and mattered too much. Good job young man.