How would you call it?

What was the score when the starting pitcher left the game?

A starting pitcher has to go five in a nine inning game and four in a seven inning game to get the win. If the starter leaves with the lead before those parameters the official scorer awards the win to the relief pitcher he determines to be the most effective. In this situation with three pitchers, often you will see the second pitcher get the win with the third getting the save.

This was a HS game, 7 innings. There were 2 pitchers. The first pitched the first 3 1/3 of the game and left with the score 6 to 3 in his favor with runners on 2nd and 3rd. The reliever came in, again with runners on 2nd and 3rd. The next hit was a single which scored both of those runners (credited to the pitcher who put them on.) He pitched the rest of the game (3 2/3 innings) allowing 1 other hit, which resulted in the final run for the opposing team (7). The final score was 10 to 7 6.

1st pitcher: 3 1/3 innings, 6 runs allowed, 1 strike out.

2nd pitcher: 3 2/3 innings, 1 run allowed, 3 strike outs.

You said it was 6-3 with two runners on, so a hit allowed by the reliever would have only made the score 6-5 with the starter charged with 5 runs. If the starter allowed 6 runs, the score would have been 6-6 when he left as you are describing it, thus the win would go to the reliever. Did you mean it was 7-3 instead of 6-3. Generally in a seven inning game as stated above the starter should go 4 innings to get the win but in cases where the winning team mounts a huge lead in the first three innings(example 15-0 after three), I'll still give the starter who comes out after three the win.

Three Bagger,

Sorry!! The final score was 10 to 6, not 7.

Starter left with score in his favor, 6 to 3 and 2 runners on. Reliever allowed hit which scored those two runners, and then later allowed 7th run.

Neither went 4 innings, but reliever went majority of the game, allowing 1 hit.

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Originally posted by RJM:
A starting pitcher has to go five in a nine inning game and four in a seven inning game to get the win. If the starter leaves with the lead before those parameters the official scorer awards the win to the relief pitcher he determines to be the most effective. In this situation with three pitchers, often you will see the second pitcher get the win with the third getting the save.

Gotcha - that makes sense!

RJM, Im impressed

Pitcher 2 gets the W. Pitcher 1 gets an Attaboy, get um next time.

I agree with BOF. We had a similar situation in a game this year. Pitcher 1 gave up 6 runs, and was removed after 3 1/3 innings, but with a 9-6 lead. Pitcher 2 pitched the remainder of the game giving up one run, and was given the W. Basically, the second pitcher was considered more effective.

At the end of the day the only thing that counts is DID THE TEAM WIN !!! Baseball is a team game--all contribute and nobody really cares about the personal stats other than mommy and daddy

College coaches like to see HS players who play on solid winning teams---that means they are well coaches and playing good fundamental baseball and that usually translates into a solid college player

Do not get hung up on the personal stats

You make a good point TR, the Team W is most important. Although, you have to admit that college coaches do pay attention to the numbers. They don't base their overall recruiting decisions on HS numbers, but many of the RC's know what's going on. My son and I went to a local college game last weekend. The RC spotted my son before the game and spoke to him for a few minutes. After they exchanged hellos, the coach commented to him that he had noticed that my kid was seeing more time on the mound, and was putting up good numbers. They're watching, how much credence they put into it, depends on the strength of the league.

The majority of college rosters post individual prior year statistics, including a brief HS rundown on the profiles, League & State accolades, etc...

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Originally posted by TRhit:

Do not get hung up on the personal stats

True, that. It's just that I keep the book and had the closer listed as the winning pitcher. The newspaper listed the starter as the winning pitcher. IMHO, they worked as a pitching tag-team, so they are both responsible for the win! Along with everyone who played behind them!!!

But, I was wondering which of us was correct...I honestly thought I must have missed something. What I did was call the sportswriter and talk to him. He's new and admitted he doesn't know a lot about scoring the game. What's hilarious is, he was getting his information from the website that I host. I didn't have a winning pitcher listed on the website, just gave a play-by-play. He arrived at his own conclusion. But theoretically, I was responsible either way, LOL!