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Three times this year, from three different kids, I've heard this comment.  Each time, they used THOSE EXACT WORDS.  And, these are kids playing on the big field.  Here's the some background on the situation and the kids:

First time:  Middle School baseball game back in May.  Pitcher is getting hit hard and is removed from the game.  As he is walking off the mound, he says, out loud, to none one in particular, but loud enough for those close to hear, "I don't even like baseball."  Background on the kid:  From the age of 8, his parents have worked every political angle and pulled every string possible to have him play every inning of every game on his travel team, be included on his LL all-star team every year, and have him make the school team.  He's not a bad player.  But, he's between average and a little better than average.  His parents talk about him as if he's the best player in town and ignore the fact that everything that he's "earned" is because they set it up for him to happen.  Kid does acts like he's entitled when on the field.

Second time:  July "optional" practices for the H.S. team.  Player was on the team as a freshmen. He skips every July practice except the last one.  (He's a rising sophomore at this point.)  He shows up for the last practice and makes a joke about "only coming today because I thought we were getting pizza."  When questioned about why he didn't show for any of the other practices, he says "I don't even like baseball."  The kid does have potential as a pitcher.  He's wild.  But, he throws very hard for his age.  He does have a reputation for being a hot head on the field.  He's been benched at times because of it.  He comes from a baseball family.  His dad is really into it and both his younger and older brother play and they all have talent.

Third time:  November BP inside a training facility.  Player is a man-child.  At the age of 13, he's six-one and 195.  And, it's not fat.  He looks like an elite NFL tight end.  And, this is when he just turned thirteen.  As a player, he can really drive the ball - especially against lesser competition.  In the field, he's lazy.  He hardly runs hard and never slides.  Defensively, he treats fly balls like they are live hand grenades.   It's an understatement to say he's a butcher in the field.  While in the cage taking BP, he's half-assing it and goofing off.  When asked "What are you doing?," he laughs and says "I don't even like baseball."

At this point, some would say:  "So, what?  It's not your kid.  Mind your own business and don't worry about others."  But, I find it curious that kids who are playing at this age would make statements using those exact same words.

Is that just a statement used as an excuse to wash away poor performance?  By this I mean, is it the kid's way of saying "Yeah, I failed.  But, it doesn't matter because I don't care.  I don't even like baseball anyway."  Or, is it something else?

Personally, my son knows the players from July and November.  He said that they have also shared, at times, that they are only playing because "my mother (or father) is making me do it."  And, I know the parents from the May situation.  It would not shock me, AT ALL, if they were forcing their kid to play baseball against his wishes - especially at this stage, after they have been pulling strings and setting things up, for the last seven years.

So, are the kids making this statement as a way of filing a protest that they are out there against their wishes?

You all are around baseball kids.  How often do you hear someone say "I don't even like baseball"?  Have you ever heard someone old enough to play on the big field say it?   Why do you think they would say it?  And, how often do they soon hang it up and get out of the game that they "don't even like"?

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When my son started the path to high school baseball in 13u I stopped paying attention to this stuff. All the kids I coached wanted to be the best players they could be.

There were middle school kids I knew didn’t have the work ethic. I didn’t concern myself with them. They hustled on the field. They just didn’t put in the work to be the best player they could. 

The last time I heard a kid say he didn’t like a sport was preteens. I remember a ten year old saying when the last out of the season was made, “Thank bleep’n God it’s over.” 

I was concerned. I talked with him. He said the ride home from games with his father were awful. His father picked his game apart in the car. The kid was an excessively academy trained, small kid who was ahead of the curve until everyone else became bigger, faster and stronger about age fourteen. He didn’t make the high school team. His father hadn’t played past LL. He wanted it all for his kid.

RJM posted:

He said the ride home from games with his father were awful. His father picked his game apart in the car.

I know that's the case in two of the three mentioned.  For the May kid, his mother is an unbearable beast.  When the son steps up to the plate, she will scream at the top of her lungs "Load early!"  She is one of the worst "coach from the grandstand" people I have ever seen.  (She's also quick to critique the play of other people's kids.  Just not a nice person.)  For the July kid, his dad is really rough on him.  I once saw the kid pitch what I thought was a pretty impressive game.  The only comment his father had for him after the game was "Too many walks."  The November kid, I don't know if his parents give him a hard time.  But, I do know they have high expectations for him.

The guys are probably right but I've seen this play out several ways.  Certainly, it is often a flag for those being pushed to participate/work on the game beyond their comfort or desire.  But I have also seen this come up in "heat of the moment" scenarios when it isn't genuine (sort of like a teen telling his mom or dad "I hate you").  I have also seen this come up with teens as they navigate youth and HS sports, figuring out which they actually want to pursue and which they may have the best chance of success.  I have seen players have moderate interest in the game, only to find a deeper passion for it later, and the other way around.  We had a very talented player in our system a few years back that had all the tools and enjoyed playing but even into his senior year of HS, had only mild interest in the game, contemplated playing another sport during senior year and had zero interest in playing beyond HS.  His thought process and direction shifted quite a bit over the next year, he became an outstanding D1 P, high draft pick and now in AA.

That said, Francis, you seem to ask quite a bit about other kids in your son's environment.  That's fine and it can be fun to discuss but if it has anything to do with measuring where your son stacks up within his own HS, my advice would be that he is best served with full focus on being the best player he can be.  Being a good teammate is imperative but these particular types of pecking order comparisons are generally not really productive.  

 

My nephew was maybe 6 yrs old so just starting to play.  About 10 family members went to watch his first "game".  It was a very hot day, majority of us had icee's/soda in the stand, including his brother.  During game nephew walks from 3rd base across the diamond to the fence, all play has stopped watching him. He tells his parents he wants an icee, was told after the game he can get one.  Continues to plead, then screams out something like " I hate playing, I never wanted to play, Dad, you made me play so it's all your fault". You could hear a pin drop, then laughter.  Definitely one a priceless Kodak moment.  Needless to say, he continued the season, that was the end of his baseball career.

I have said it before and I will say it again. Baseball is boring as hell for a lot of young kids in the game. If the coach, parent, uncle, brother, someone doesn't instill a love and passion for the game early the chances are it won't last very long. And it definitely won't last when the return on investment begins to diminish. 

Sometimes kids say these kinds of things because they believe if they act like they don't care or it doesn't matter to them it won't be as embarrassing when they fail. To be honest very few really love the game itself. Oh they love it when they are having success. When they are the star. When they are getting to play. When the effort to achieve these things doesn't entail too much effort. 

I am constantly reminded of this when I hear a young man and or one of his parents say "I want to play in college" "He want's to play in college." And they routinely miss off season , fall workouts. Can't find time to get in extra work because the lake is calling or Miss Suzie has. 

If your son has a drive and passion for the game it will be easy to spot. He will typically prior to college stick out like a sore thumb. And so will the one's that don't. In the end it's ok. It's not for everyone and if it was easy everyone would do it. 

TRUST’s story reminds me of a kid I coached in rec. In 7/8’s and 9/10’s I gave out baseball cards after games. The cards were given out by who was the first kid who knew something about the player. It allowed the nerdier, less athletic kids to be the best at something.

One parent said his kid only stayed with baseball due to the cards and requested he continue to play for me. I had the kid for three seasons.

The fourth year it couldn’t be arranged. The kid asked “Where are the baseball cards?” He didn’t realize it was something I only did for my teams. He quit his new team after one game.

I also did take home quizzes for players to do with parents to help them learn about the game and have fun with their parents.. One question was, “Who’s on first?” Everyone here knows the correct answer is “Yes, What’s on second.” Half the team answered, “Greg.”

I gave everyone a poster of “Who’s on first.” for a prize.

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RJM posted:

TRUST’s story reminds me of a kid I coached in rec. in 7/8’s and 9/10’s I gave out baseball cards after games. The cards were given out by who was the first kid who knew something about the player. It allowed the nerdier, less athletic kids to be the best at something.

One parent said his kid only stayed with baseball due to the cards and requested he continue to play for me. I had the kid for three seasons.

The fourth year it couldn’t be arranged. The kid asked “Where are the baseball cards?” He didn’t realize it was something I only did for my teams. He quit his new team after one game.

I also did take home quizzes for players to do with parents to help them learn about the game and have fun with their parents.. One question was, “Who’s on first?” Everyone here knows the correct answer is “Yes, What’s on second.” Half the team answered, “Greg.”

I gave everyone a poster of “Who’s on first.” for a prize.

So many new threads can be born from this post …   

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