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Cabbage provided the best answer so I'll go for 2nd.  420' with a HS ball is a hella prodigious shot, whether it's hit off a D1-bound stud, a scrub, a coach, or a tee.  But no question it's a lot more impressive if done against top pitching, which can be found in both private and public schools.

Originally Posted by cabbagedad:

Yes.  The ball carries significantly further in the filtered air of the private school ballparks and the bats are imported from Italy and illegal in public HS ball.

You forgot the uplift provided by the lightly flapping wings of the songbirds as they joyously frolic amongst oak trees lining the drive way to the schools entrance.  

Originally Posted by Ripken Fan:
Originally Posted by jmpbama92:

hits a 420 foot homerun with a wood bat in a game, does it mean less if he plays for a private school association versus a public school association? I do not believe this is true, but some people think so.  

I don't know.Which weighs more a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?

A pound of bricks will weigh less if it's on the moon. 

A single home run counts the same regardless of public or private affiliation.  I looked it up.  

 

However, I think you may get differing opinions from the peanut gallery if there were scouts in the stands with a MLB draftee on the bump versus a JV pitcher brought up to varsity to burn some innings.  It would mean much more to me if this kid hit a 420 mammoth HR with a wood bat off of a MLB draftee stud.  Bat speed off of quality pitching (public or private anywhere) gets attention.  Just sayng

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The reason that this post/question solicited silly (and classic..thanks!) responses is because that is what it deserved.  Let's talk about the player's bat speed, athleticism, hand-eye, quickness of hands, foot speed, work ethic, size, build, commitment to the team, has he faced quality pitching (see Fenway's post above) including a pitcher with good offspeed (vs. nothing but 80 mph fastballs he knows is coming). 

I know of a HS player that has hit a ball 400'+ that will get cut from JV this year. For everyone that he hits 400', the remaining 99 don't make it 200'.  It's an all or nothing swing that no one has been able to fix for a few years. There are other issues too. So it's really going to depend on what he does with the rest of his game.
Originally Posted by jmpbama92:

hits a 420 foot homerun with a wood bat in a game, does it mean less if he plays for a private school association versus a public school association? I do not believe this is true, but some people think so.  

OK, sorry jmpbama92, we kinda took off with your post and had some fun with it.  My intention was to come back to try and address the question.  But, I think JCG probably nailed it although I'm not exactly sure what that question really is.  Does it mean less in what regard?

 

If I'm guessing right...

Yes, there is a general perception in many areas that HS leagues made up of privates are largely on a lesser competitive level and, therefore, big stats and big accomplishments (somewhat including big blasts, although certainly not everyone can hit the ball 420' without a street involved) are less meaningful.  Sometimes that is true.  In Southern Cal, the lowest level/small school division is comprised of mostly privates.  Many times it is not true.  We experienced that Friday night .  Many of the privates in our ultra-competitive SoCal section can beat many of the biggest schools in the top divisions.

 

As far as the particular event, what JCG said.

 

Last edited by cabbagedad
Originally Posted by cabbagedad:
Originally Posted by jmpbama92:

Depends on the area. In some locals the private schools are stronger because they don't have the geographic limitations and can draw from a larger area. One HS here has had students from 50 towns.

Yes, there is a general perception in many areas that HS leagues made up of privates are largely on a lesser competitive level and, therefore, big stats and big accomplishments (somewhat including big blasts, although certainly not everyone can hit the ball 420' without a street involved) are less meaningful.  

 

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Originally Posted by Ripken Fan:
Originally Posted by cabbagedad:
Originally Posted by jmpbama92:

Depends on the area. In some locals the private schools are stronger because they don't have the geographic limitations and can draw from a larger area. One HS here has had students from 50 towns.

Yes, there is a general perception in many areas that HS leagues made up of privates are largely on a lesser competitive level and, therefore, big stats and big accomplishments (somewhat including big blasts, although certainly not everyone can hit the ball 420' without a street involved) are less meaningful.  

 

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Or there can be both.  There are a bunch of Catholic schools here in NorCal that dominate in major sports and a few that are routinely ranked as among the best in the state and the nation.   There are are also privates, usually small prep schools or K-12 Christian schools, that play in weak divisions and often have only a Varsity team.  So to the OP, if you're talking about a kid hitting well against a powerhouse team, that is awesome. But if you're talking about a kid hitting well against a very small school, that is still great, but the kid will probably have to prove himself against top competition at some point if he wants to play at the next level.

Originally Posted by Ripken Fan:
Originally Posted by cabbagedad:
Originally Posted by jmpbama92:

Depends on the area. In some locals the private schools are stronger because they don't have the geographic limitations and can draw from a larger area. One HS here has had students from 50 towns.

Yes, there is a general perception in many areas that HS leagues made up of privates are largely on a lesser competitive level and, therefore, big stats and big accomplishments (somewhat including big blasts, although certainly not everyone can hit the ball 420' without a street involved) are less meaningful.  

 

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I'm copying the whole paragraph from my post because the partial quote implies something entirely different than what I was trying to say...

 

"Yes, there is a general perception in many areas that HS leagues made up of privates are largely on a lesser competitive level and, therefore, big stats and big accomplishments (somewhat including big blasts, although certainly not everyone can hit the ball 420' without a street involved) are less meaningful.  Sometimes that is true.  In Southern Cal, the lowest level/small school division is comprised of mostly privates.  Many times it is not true.  We experienced that Friday night .  Many of the privates in our ultra-competitive SoCal section can beat many of the biggest schools in the top divisions."

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Last year in Illinois, the 2 finalists in the largest baseball division (4A - over 128 teams competing) were both private schools.  The two teams both played in the same private school league.  The state champion finished 4th in its league.  The 2nd place team finished tied for 1st in its league.

 

I think private schools in Illinois are doing OK in the respect department.

 

 

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