Coach2709. Actually you might be the biggest winner here. I don't really think a hedge fund guy or a wall street guy gives the world as much as someone like you does! Keep up the great work with the kids no matter what it pays! Ya got my respect and I think that's worth a whole lot. Just saying.
Originally Posted by coach2709:
Man I must be a huge loser because I majored in history education to be a teacher. Then I really messed up by getting a masters degree in secondary school counseling. Now I sit in a classroom all day babysitting kids who I need to let them learn from my failures in life by not picking a better career path which makes the most money.
Love the sarcasm! Whether it's the engineering types who want to tell you they're smarter than everyone or it's the "I'm great because I owned my own business" crowd, they all miss the greater point and look foolish in the process. After it's all said and done, if you choose to judge yourself by the level of monetary success of your career you are an abject fool. If you judge yourself by the impact you've made on others, and the enjoyment you experienced throughout life, you are enlightened. As an attorney who has owned his own business (big whoop-de-damn-do), I envy your career path and hope my children do better than what some of these posters think defines success as well. Happy Thanksgiving.
LHP Mom,
I'm a ceo of a business, and while the name of the college is taken into consideration when hiring, many other factors come in to play as well. I have successfully replaced Ivy Leaguers (and engineers) with people with different academic credentials which some might find "lesser than". In fact, I've found that success in the work place may not directly correlate with success in the classroom. Has the person overcome adversity? How do they deal with conflict? There are many things to consider.
One thing your son may want to consider is how active is the alumni network? Networking is key, and some colleges have great traditions in having their alums hire or assist graduates.
As for the noise about the "right" major...There are some folks who think in a very linear and sometimes constrained way, and they may tend to think that there is one way to become successful. Bless their hearts.
Good luck to your son.
I think in all my years on the HSBBW I've never seen a poster brag that he makes 7-figures like Gunner. I would rather coach at a h.s. like Coach2709 making an honest living than churn cash from the golf set and pat myself on the back for being a pompous a**.
Originally Posted by gunner34:
MBAs often = undergrads who didnt progress very well at their first job, but not always.
Where in the hell do you get your information? Rising stars in the corporate world are told to get in an MBA program.
Originally Posted by RJM:
Originally Posted by gunner34:
MBAs often = undergrads who didnt progress very well at their first job, but not always.
Where in the hell do you get your information? Rising stars in the corporate world are told to get in an MBA program.
That seems like a deliberately ignorant comment. I'd ignore it. (Or maybe he's been talking to all the Harvard and Wharton MBAs who washed out of their first jobs and then became C.E.O.s.) Interestingly, some people say that the value of the MBA has become diluted due to too many people getting them, which makes the school you get it from even more important, and prompts some to suggest getting a Doctorate of Business Admin or Business PHD.
One of my kids is talking about getting an engineering degree, then his masters, and then an MBA. I have no idea where he plans to get the money for all that.
Re: Diluted value of MBAs
It depends where and why a student gets an MBA. If a person is looking for an MBA to be a resume builder it should be from a reasonably regarded school. Some get an MBA as part of the process to move up where they work. The course work is more important than the name of the school. Others are just doing it for personal fulfillment.
I'm a proponent of working before heading for grad school. Then in class it's possible to discern reality from theory espoused by professors lacking practical experience.
Originally Posted by Bum:
I think in all my years on the HSBBW I've never seen a poster brag that he makes 7-figures like Gunner. I would rather coach at a h.s. like Coach2709 making an honest living than churn cash from the golf set and pat myself on the back for being a pompous a**.
Now, now.
Nothing wrong with living the American dream.
Originally Posted by JCG:
Originally Posted by RJM:
Originally Posted by gunner34:
MBAs often = undergrads who didnt progress very well at their first job, but not always.
Where in the hell do you get your information? Rising stars in the corporate world are told to get in an MBA program.
That seems like a deliberately ignorant comment. I'd ignore it. (Or maybe he's been talking to all the Harvard and Wharton MBAs who washed out of their first jobs and then became C.E.O.s.) Interestingly, some people say that the value of the MBA has become diluted due to too many people getting them, which makes the school you get it from even more important, and prompts some to suggest getting a Doctorate of Business Admin or Business PHD.
One of my kids is talking about getting an engineering degree, then his masters, and then an MBA. I have no idea where he plans to get the money for all that.
Some companies will pay for a Masters. The Federal Gov't will usually pay as well as a few defense contractors.
Originally Posted by twotex:
As for the noise about the "right" major...There are some folks who think in a very linear and sometimes constrained way, and they may tend to think that there is one way to become successful. Bless their hearts.
twotex,
I love it. I grew up in New England and moved south in Oct 1987 after the stock market crash.. One of the first things I learned when I moved south is the power of the saying "bless their hearts". Beautiful! 
What an absolute waste of a thread.
Yes, the country needs more young people pursuing STEM degrees. No, not all young people should. Yes, we need smart, capable MBAs. In fact, the HIGHEST demand is for engineers WITH MBAs.
mania: your comments actually sound like they might spew forth from the mouth of that baby you attach to your profile. It's rare to encounter such socially inept commentary. And to think you're in my beloved Texas? Ugh. I'd wager most of 2709's HS students aren't as clueless.
gunner -- you actually come on a high school baseball site and brag about how much money you make? Why don't you scan and post a copy of your last check? That would really impress us all. Are you mania's cousin?
Originally Posted by jp24:
What an absolute waste of a thread.
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I'm afraid jp24 is right. What started out as a legitimate, serious question has degraded into an argument about who is smarter and richer and more successful.
This discussion thread is closed.