In-state vs out of state tuition

I think the way it works is...
in the ncaa's eyes, percentages are percentages and they have to add up to 11.7 or less, regardless of in-state or out-of-state.

The issue of the actual dollar amount the % is worth is a baseball budget decision, ie.. how much can they afford.

Grandslamfan is correct.What my understanding is, many schools give out of state waivers. A key question to ask is how does the school bill their charges. Some schools have seperate fees for room/board for out of state students, other do not. And what about all the little charges that appear, health fees, licensing fees, department fees, lab fees, books etc. ASK!
If it is just tuition, with out of state waivers, what they (baseball) fund will come out to the same as an in state student, which is about 3K. The school won't lose that much, because you have paid 9 and they will fund 3, the coach knows the school will accept the 12K for an out of state student, in reality the coach has only given out a fraction of his 11.7 that he is allowed to give and used up very little of his budgeted money.
Again,important to ask, if given a 50% scholarship, what does the 50% include.
Let's say the total bill is 22k and you have been offered 50%. You will be responsible for 11K. Then they will apply the out of state waivers, you may be surprised it still comes out to the same in dollars as compared to an in state student. Some can only waive (out of state) for a certin percentage of students, so they may have to fund it through academic dollars. This is why you may see some state schools have a large roster of out of state students, they are allowed to fund with that in mind., and prefer to keep their roster smaller.

It's called creative coach financing

It's all very confusing, bottom line for you should be, what am I actually responsible for.

home builder -
Two separate issues, 1) the maximum scholarships NCAA allows and 2) the overall college budget. In-state or out-of-state is not an issue from an NCAA perspective. If 2 players get 50% that reduces the NCAA available scholarships by 1 regardless of the player's residency status. On the flip side, each school will have a budget $ value per year of what constitutes a 100% scholarship per player in each residency category. (be aware, not all 100%'s actually cover 100% of all costs you will encounter! ) So, as you said, the 50% scholarships may actually be worth different amounts per player. If the school has sufficient budget, they can recruit all out of state players, all in-state players, or some combination. NCAA only cares about the equivalent percent against the 11.7, not actual $'s. Hopefully this was confusing and boring enough to cure any insomniacs out there!

Is dependant upon the school (and AD)

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All the offers my son received were for $$$ not %%%.

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I knew that scholarships were presented in dollars. I was trying to determine how the school manages those dollars. To see if there was an advantage to an instate recruit. Or for that matter if being an out of state recruit if there was a disadvantage.

Was you son’s offer from an in state or out of state school?

Here is how a DI head coach described it to me:

The NCAA defines a "full scholarship" as the cost of tuition, fees, housing, meals, and books for an "average student" at each school. Therefore, at state-supported universities, a "full scholarship" is determined by the weighted average of those costs spread across the entire student body. That causes it to be reflective of the proportions of in-state and out-of-state students and the relative difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition.

Each year, the AD's office takes the dollar amount of a "full scholarship" and multiplies it by the number of scholarships a sport is allowed. In the case of DI baseball, that number is 11.7 (where the program is fully funded). That result gives the baseball coaching staff its scholarship budget for the year, which is then divided up among the players.

Even though a "full scholarship," by definition, exceeds the costs for in-state students, my strong impression is that most DI coaches at state-supported universities generally "low ball" their scholarship offers to in-state students, reserving a disproportionate amount of their scholarship budget for out-of-state players.

They have a variety of reasons for approaching the exercise in this way. Included among these are (1) the presumption that in-state players are more highly motivated to attend their home state's school and (2) the attendant costs are lower, thus easier for in-state families to bear. Meanwhile, they often feel they have to "go the extra mile" with out-of-state players in order to win them away from their home state schools.

(By the way, not all states offer a "relaxation" of out-of-state tuition like that mentioned earlier by TigerPawMom. It varies from state to state.)

Prepster,
Good job with the explanation.

Prepster - Very good and logical makes sense.

When one does the math it would mean that a program willing to take mostly "in State" kids would be able to give many more players money than one more reliant on out of state kids....hmmmm.

It also means that schools with more out of state students have more dollars to spend relatively speaking.

Exactly right on both counts, mrmom...and thanks to both you and TPM for the kind words. We all do what we can to try to make some sense out of all of this!