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Originally Posted by TPM:
Someone told me something a long time ago. That person is in the business of baseball and knows his stuff.

The last thing a coach or scout remembers about a player, is the last time he sees him play. 
In other words, its not what he saw in a video or yesterday but what he will see tomorrow.

Best of luck

I agree with this wholeheartedly. If he is hurt and cannot perform up to showcasing standards, he will not be helping his cause.  He will be hurting it.  Not a wise decision in my opinion.  Get healthy, and then go show his skills. 

In 2007 son was expected to be a late first round pick.  He did awesome in the ACC tourney with almost a complete no hitter to beat out FSU.  The next weekend at regionals, after pitching over 100 innings that season he was spent. He fell from around a 45 pick to a 71 pick.

This would be true of any player.  Coaches tend to disappear when they suspect or know injury. IMO, the injury described here doesnt sound good.  Possibly surgery someday.

 

 

If your son shuts down after this showcase, being a position player and not playing senior summer, its pretty obvious there is an injury. I know that you paid for this tourney, but if that is the reason why he is going, thats not a good reason.  Be honest and i hope that you do the right for your son.

Just went through this situation the past two days. Son separated his throwing shoulder playing hockey in February. Just returned to a throwing program a few weeks ago. Even though his shoulder wasn't 100 % we went to the showcase the past two days. He hit very well but his pops and velocity were below what he was capable of. His arm was very sore on day two and limited him. We had let some coaches know of his situation beforehand. I don't know how it will turn out as we just got home. It definitely hurt for any coaches who were not aware of his injury. We'll see what the others think based on any feedback we get.

Good luck, but be honest w yourself.  You have said he's interested in military academies,and  academics more than baseball. The fact that son is showcasing w injury says otherwise. 

What does he want to do?

Seems strange that he misses HS season, has been dealing w Injury since Oct, dr says to shut down including PT, but he's played 6 Summer games and now it's apparently ok to showcase. Bit confusing to say the least.

You were given good advice, what u do w it is up to you. Be realistic and know it's difficult to get into military academies, even w good grades and skills. We ve seen this firsthand w teamate. Maybe you feel that this is his only chance to be seen by academies. 

There are good people on here who have expressed opinions/concerns for your son and his injury. Many have first hand experience and have been in same spot. You seem determined to go. So let the chips fall where they may. Hope son heals soon.

Originally Posted by playball2011:

You have said he's interested in military academies,and  academics more than baseball

What does he want to do? He wants to go an Academy for academics it's not my preference or his moms but we won't tell him he can't.

 

Be realistic and know it's difficult to get into military academies, even w good grades and skills. He SAT is over 1400 or over 2000 if you count writing, his GPA is over 4.0 with a slew of AP courses, he is an Eagle Scout and has played in the HS jazz band every year, has tons of community service hours etc... I know there are no guarantees but he has done all the leg work and is in the process of trying to get a recommendation from our congressman. 

 

 

Originally Posted by standballdad:
Originally Posted by playball2011:

You have said he's interested in military academies,and  academics more than baseball

What does he want to do? He wants to go an Academy for academics it's not my preference or his moms but we won't tell him he can't.

 

Be realistic and know it's difficult to get into military academies, even w good grades and skills. He SAT is over 1400 or over 2000 if you count writing, his GPA is over 4.0 with a slew of AP courses, he is an Eagle Scout and has played in the HS jazz band every year, has tons of community service hours etc... I know there are no guarantees but he has done all the leg work and is in the process of trying to get a recommendation from our congressman. 

 

 

standballdad,

 

I'm a little late to the thread.  I understand where you are coming from as I had my youngest son (pitcher) get hurt at this time last year.  He couldn't showcase and it crushed him at the time.  

 

I realize there are differences between showcasing pitchers and catchers but I would urge you to not take any health chances for many reasons.  Your son will have additional opportunities because of his academics.  You shouldn't feel like baseball is the only leverage your son has.....he has other leverage through academics.   Because of those strong academics he'll have additional opportunities that others may not.  I wouldn't risk it, but focus on those schools that put a high value on academics along with baseball. These academic schools will take a chance on an injured promising recruit who wasn't available to showcase.  It is going to take some work on his part but I've seen it happen many times over because the academics stand out.   JMO.

 

Good luck.

Originally Posted by SluggerDad:

So how did it go with the injury and all?

It went fine. Son had a good time and performed well enough taking all things into consideration. He ended up catching 4-5 innings a game and played some SS as well. He communicated to his coach about his shoulder so they were aware of it. The first day his throws were a little off, looked a little apprehensive too me. Next day he threw pretty well, velocity a little off but he looked good overall. He said coached had asked him if his shoulder felt better, said he looked a lot better than the first game. Son said no but he was more aggressive with it. His POPs were in the 1.9's. Coached asked what he normally throws at. He swung the bat well in games, he had 3 hits in 8 AB's but squared up a couple of other line drives but at the 3rd base and 2nd. His defensive play was good. We are now waiting for the evaluations to come out. They do a lot of the evaluations during the training sessions. This is a very well run camp, the kids were dragging the last day. 

Originally Posted by SluggerDad:

So how did it go with the injury and all?

Just a follow up, son is being recruited by a top academic D3 that says he has a spot on the roster if he can get through admissions. Coach saw him at the Stanford camp. He is still in the process of getting into an Academy but now will have another option if he does not. 

Originally Posted by standballdad:
Originally Posted by SluggerDad:

So how did it go with the injury and all?

Just a follow up, son is being recruited by a top academic D3 that says he has a spot on the roster if he can get through admissions. Coach saw him at the Stanford camp. He is still in the process of getting into an Academy but now will have another option if he does not. 

That's great news. Good luck to him -- both on the military academy front, and with the D3.

Originally Posted by 2019Dad:
Originally Posted by standballdad:
Originally Posted by SluggerDad:

So how did it go with the injury and all?

Just a follow up, son is being recruited by a top academic D3 that says he has a spot on the roster if he can get through admissions. Coach saw him at the Stanford camp. He is still in the process of getting into an Academy but now will have another option if he does not. 

That's great news. Good luck to him -- both on the military academy front, and with the D3.

Thanks 2019, son has been through a lot in the last year and a half but just kept on working especially on the academic side. If there is one thing I learned from all this, it's to keep the grades up and work hard on the testing either SAT or ACT. It truly does open more doors and opportunities.

If you're going to compete or showcase don't complain or talk about injury. No coach or scout is going to care, they will look at the other healthy kids that are competing instead.

 

If you're concerned about making the injury worse or having the injury leave a bad impression on coaches then don't compete for a while. The kid is young. If baseball is a priority and it doesn't workout after this spring then go the juco route.

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by kt333:

If you're going to compete or showcase don't complain or talk about injury. No coach or scout is going to care, they will look at the other healthy kids that are competing instead.

 

If you're concerned about making the injury worse or having the injury leave a bad impression on coaches then don't compete for a while. The kid is young. If baseball is a priority and it doesn't workout after this spring then go the juco route.

 

 

 

 

Did you read the whole post? Not sure where you are coming from. As a matter of fact a couple of coaches emailed my son months after showcase and asked about his injury, so some do care.

Last edited by standballdad
Originally Posted by playball2011:

Hopefully his grades r good and he ll  get to that D3 and have a good time. 

just realize when u come on here u will get replies u may not like. Many have experience w whatever is posted, and truly care. In your case it was about an injured player. Hopefully he's 100% now and has found a good fit. 

Thank You, he is over his injury and only looking to move forward. Its been a crazy journey.

Never attend the showcase if you're not 100% at that point what are you showcasing. That would be like showcasing the Rolex with  a smashed face. The reality is if you're good enough they will find you. Take care your body get back to 100% and let them see the real you. The showcases cause a lot of problems for athletes because they never have a true shut down. Most big leaguers take 8 to 10 weeks off from doing any baseball activities yet kids play and Practice all year round. A true recipe for disaster, fatigue, breakdown, and negative performance.

 

Coach Dana

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I think many miss the dates when an update is added. Obviously, it's been awhile. As to showcasing when not 100%, it's a dilemma that doesn't have an answer as simple as many think. Simply saying, "don't do it" and leaving it at that is a little too simplistic. That is probably great advise in 95% of cases, but there are exceptions. It happened to us. My 2018 son was gong through a painful glute injury last summer. In the mix was a PBR showcase from which rankings were very dependent on. We decided to pitch him. It was painful, but his injury was not one that was going to permanently hurt him if he pitched through it (it would probably extend the time needed to heal). He threw two innings. He threw 85 (had been at 86 and 87 before the injury) and sat 84-85. It drew a lot of attention and led to some contacts we otherwise wouldn't have made. He came in with the first 2018 rankings at #2 in the state which has drawn further interest. Now, he could just as easily have not done well and it would have been a waste. But, he was not yet on a lot of radars, so it wouldn't have hurt him a lot. However, when I look at the video they took and posted, I cringe. He looks like total $%#&, mechanically.

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