What are the specific rules for innings allowed for a pitcher in the state of Wisconsin
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Thats something an umpire from Wisconsin, or some coach familiar with that states rules will have to help us with because the NFHS rule 6-1-6 states:
Each state association shall have a pitching restriction to afford pitchers a reasonable rest period between pitching appearances.
This is a rule that we umpires do not usually get involved in. We do not have any way of knowing with certainty, how many innnings a pitcher has pitched....and there is no penalty presecribed for it in the NFHS rule book, so this falls outside our jurisdiction.....
Now for summer ball leagues that can be different when a calendar day is prescribed....For instance in PONY rules, a pitcher can not pitch in more than 7 innings in one day...if he throws one pitch in the 8th inning he and his manager are removed from the game....the player for his health and safety, the manager for overusing the player....
Hope this helps....
Each state association shall have a pitching restriction to afford pitchers a reasonable rest period between pitching appearances.
This is a rule that we umpires do not usually get involved in. We do not have any way of knowing with certainty, how many innnings a pitcher has pitched....and there is no penalty presecribed for it in the NFHS rule book, so this falls outside our jurisdiction.....
Now for summer ball leagues that can be different when a calendar day is prescribed....For instance in PONY rules, a pitcher can not pitch in more than 7 innings in one day...if he throws one pitch in the 8th inning he and his manager are removed from the game....the player for his health and safety, the manager for overusing the player....
Hope this helps....
Not that it addresses the question asked, but I've always felt that "innings" is not a good yardstick for overuse, but rather the pitchcount. But that's pretty tough to enforce.
How may times have you seen errors lead to a 30-pitch inning? Lots.
How may times have you seen errors lead to a 30-pitch inning? Lots.
Pitch counts are enforceable, but the intent is protect a young pitcher from arm injury by forcing days rest after throwing past a predetermined point.
what criteria would you use to set a pitch limit ?
The responsibility would still lie with the coach to remove a kid who could not reach the pitch count limit without risking arm injury.
If you make the pitch limit too low, you are penalizing the players who have worked hard to build the endurance up so they can throw many pitches.
In HS ball, you are talking about a HUGE variety of body sytles and levels of physical maturity. Setting one specfic pitch count for everyone would be extremely difficult to do.
what criteria would you use to set a pitch limit ?
The responsibility would still lie with the coach to remove a kid who could not reach the pitch count limit without risking arm injury.
If you make the pitch limit too low, you are penalizing the players who have worked hard to build the endurance up so they can throw many pitches.
In HS ball, you are talking about a HUGE variety of body sytles and levels of physical maturity. Setting one specfic pitch count for everyone would be extremely difficult to do.
It's not difficult just not necessarily fair. 
LL has been experimenting with the pitch count in the ER for a couple of years. The LL I am involved with is doing it. The 15/16 yr olds can throw 95 pitches in a game. There is a breakdown for lesser pitches but I don't remember it. The discussion they were having the other day is all the leagues they interleague with uses innings instead of the count so a kid could throw 100 to 150 pitches where the others have to come out after 95.
LL has been experimenting with the pitch count in the ER for a couple of years. The LL I am involved with is doing it. The 15/16 yr olds can throw 95 pitches in a game. There is a breakdown for lesser pitches but I don't remember it. The discussion they were having the other day is all the leagues they interleague with uses innings instead of the count so a kid could throw 100 to 150 pitches where the others have to come out after 95.
These stories are primarily from a sitatuion where a coach is abusing a kid, yet still following the rules.
Usually, but not always, its a high level pitcher who is involved.
My point is with any system, pitch count of otherwise, the will always be a way a coach could exploit it.
Let us assume you set the limit for example to 90 pitches per appearance with some rest requirement following that appearance. What consideration do you have for a pitcher whose perosnal limits, for whatever reason (age, size, coming off injury, etc), is say 60 pitches. The coach could still throw him for 90 and be within the rules.
You are still having to trust the coach to do the right by the player.
Usually, but not always, its a high level pitcher who is involved.
My point is with any system, pitch count of otherwise, the will always be a way a coach could exploit it.
Let us assume you set the limit for example to 90 pitches per appearance with some rest requirement following that appearance. What consideration do you have for a pitcher whose perosnal limits, for whatever reason (age, size, coming off injury, etc), is say 60 pitches. The coach could still throw him for 90 and be within the rules.
You are still having to trust the coach to do the right by the player.
You have to hope that the coach is smart enough to pull him once his effectiveness goes away. We have a local team that has a tendency to ride a pitcher. They generally have an ace that can do the job but they pitch him every inning they can and by the time the season is over he is dead. They don't do anything beyond the rules but they kill a good arm. I did a HS play-off game with them the other week and they were up by quite a bit but they didn't pull the ace. He didin't pitch for four days but they threw him another full game.
alrighty, in Wisconsin you can pitch 7 innings every 3 days. ok 5217?
Its a little more complicated then that.
A pitcher, needs 2 full days off after pitching 7 innings so you could pich 2 one day 2 another day and 3 the third day then you need 2 full days off.
However you can pitch 10 innings as long as it is all in one game. So if you start a game and it goes 10 innings you can pitch the whole thing. Then you need to get 2 full days rest.
As the father of 2 pitchers who pitched quite often on 2 days rest, IT AIN"T ENOUGH!
A pitcher, needs 2 full days off after pitching 7 innings so you could pich 2 one day 2 another day and 3 the third day then you need 2 full days off.
However you can pitch 10 innings as long as it is all in one game. So if you start a game and it goes 10 innings you can pitch the whole thing. Then you need to get 2 full days rest.
As the father of 2 pitchers who pitched quite often on 2 days rest, IT AIN"T ENOUGH!
to give you a comparison, in ohio no player may pitch more than 10 innings in a three day period. any part of an inning is considered as an inning as per pitching rule.for example, a player may pitch 10 innings on monday and then pitch again on thurs.
i think you have the same sorta rotation we did Big WI. two starters