Integrity of Youth Baseball

Good for your son!

Not specifically this issue, but yep in general. They often wanna blame the honest guy for calling them on breaking the rules.

Hard to understand.

I say again go to wood and all this goes away

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Originally posted by BaseballmomandCEP:
Good for your son!

Yes, thanks I was kinda of tickled that he noticed. It was like he had hit a homerun

Guilty dogs bark.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
I say again go to wood and all this goes away

what kind of wood?

your choice---we use maple

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Originally posted by SultanofSwat:
Guilty dogs bark.

Yes and the "Mom" was jawing at my son from behind the home plate backstop. My son just smiled at her.

Can I use composites and laminates?

wood only avoids conflict

I would hope so, but I think you're gonna see juiced wood bats, too. "Better performance", the whole rating thing, approved, not approved.

Saw a grand slam called back for an illegal bat last season. Assistant coach requested time and walked over to the ump with the tourney's list of illegal bats on his smart phone . . . the list included the bat sitting next to home plate.

LOTS of nastiness from the parents/team who "accidentally" used the illegal bat.

Oh, and they lost by three runs.

CYNICAL ARENT YOU WE WORK ON RESPECT---IT IS AN AG OLD ITALIAN TRAIT

Not only was it not a BBCOR, but I find it odd a 14 year old would be swinging a -9. I think my son last swung one of those when he was 12.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
CYNICAL ARENT YOU WE WORK ON RESPECT---IT IS AN AG OLD ITALIAN TRAIT

ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?

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Originally posted by Mizzoubaseball:
Not only was it not a BBCOR, but I find it odd a 14 year old would be swinging a -9. I think my son last swung one of those when he was 12.

Our pitcher is 6-2 and brings it. I can kinda of see why the kid went to a -9.

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"Oh, and they lost by three runs."

Nice!





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I'm remembering Billy Martin vs. George Brett .....

As I recall, the outcome of that was that the Commissioner's office ruled the HR legal, the only remedy for illegal bat (due to excessive pine tar) was to challenge the bat and have it removed from play in advance. No automatic out.

But I would think most youth tourneys would have an explicit rule providing the penalty for an illegal bat. Everyone knows the rules in advance, and using an illegal bat is no different from throwing a spitter, using a player who's older than permitted, etc.

Coaching my sons JR's team for LL, we have played 4 games. Found illegal bats in 3 of the 4 games, yet I have been labeled "that guy" for calling them on out. Had one entire teams coaching staff and parents blast me the rest of the game....oh well....cheaters are cheaters!

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Originally posted by Mizzoubaseball:
Not only was it not a BBCOR, but I find it odd a 14 year old would be swinging a -9. I think my son last swung one of those when he was 12.

-3's are not required by many sanctioned tournaments till 15. Couldn't believe it last Spring that some big 14's were swinging -9's when there were a bunch of well balanced hot -3 bats to choose from.

The reason I asked about the -9 bat is that when my son played that age, you had to use a -3. One game in the first inning, an opposing kid hits a two run double. As the catcher grabs the bat to get it out of the way, he looks at it and hands it to the umpire. It was a -5. big ordeal about what to do. Is he out, is it a redo, or what. We just decided to let it go and just not use the bat anymore. Coach told me after the game it was an honest mistake, since it was early in the season.

Not to sound all moral or whatever, but what do you really gain by cheating at this age.

We couldn't figure out why we saw a few 14U teams last Spring in -9 bats. It's not like they were small undersized kids with painfully bad swings. All we can surmise is they felt they needed the bat speed. Last Spring my youngest was in a 32-29 and stayed in it & hit very well, even when he faced the most velocity he'd yet seen off a mound (mid 80's).

Had a middle-aged opposing coach scream at one of our 14U players this past summer for allegedly "looking into the dugout" after being walked. Seems like many parents and coaches forget its only young kids out there.

Yep. Same thing in our first tournament a few weekends ago. Kid walks up and hits with a -5 BESR.

Former Major League All Star coaching the opposing team. Amazed at the fit he threw when his player was called out and ejected.

Not like he wasn't sent a reminder email prior to the tournament and all of these governing bodies have it prominently displayed on their website.

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Originally posted by Mizzoubaseball:
Not to sound all moral or whatever, but what do you really gain by cheating at this age.

You are correct, but remember some peoples' mentality that Son will not make a pro roster if he doesn't excel in his preteen years.

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Originally posted by AntzDad:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
CYNICAL ARENT YOU WE WORK ON RESPECT---IT IS AN AG OLD ITALIAN TRAIT

ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?

Agree with trhit everyone should go to wood solves all the problems....

It's a shame "adults" have to act so unsportsmanlike around kids.
Win with class and stay humble. Lose with integrity and show respect for the winning team.

I'm with TRhit on this one. Instead of monkeying around with BBCOR and all these other idiotic bats, just go to wood. Regular wood bats. No composites or any other fancy bats they claim is like wood

At least no one got their ear bit off.

Middle School Basketball Coach Bites off Opposing Coach's Ear After Loss

It was a u9 LL game few years back and the other team was using a softball bat. It was old and the paint was chipping so a a lot of the words where rubbed off. But it did say little league on it. I told the ump , but he said it had little league on it. Bunch of BS. its easy to tell a softball bat from baseball bat. But a few games later that team didnt use that bat anymore. Total lack of integrity.

My son was in a 13u tournament and one of his teammate's father was the freshman JV coach at a local HS. The dad recognized one of the boys as having tried out for him in the HS and new he was too old to play on the opposing team in our age bracket. When confronted, instead of apologizing for what was hoped was a mistake, the other coach asked through the tournament rep if it was OK if the boy only batted and did not play the field.

While this was bad enough, we saw the same boy playing for the same team in a later round of the same tournament. I guess winning for this coach and the boys' parents was more important than teaching the boys on this team about integrity and right from wrong.

I was confused for a minute...."Inegrity in Youth Baseball" as a topic I thought I was reading the "Funniest things heard at the Ballbark" string.