Interesting

Baseball America has commented on his velocity drop from 93 to 86-87. Everyone know something was wrong. Hopefully he recovers.

Baseball itself remains an arm-shredder. Unfortunately, it is the nature of the game and why if I were a player and I had a choice, I would always choose a position over pitching.

Adenhart is a future Angel!!!!!!!

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College remains an arm-shredder on the whole

From the perspective of a parent who is watching the TJ recovery process I wish I could look at college ball as the reason for my sons injury. However, statistically speaking if you look at the total number of college pitchers, D1 through CC, and then the total number of arm injuries I don't know if you can come to that conclusion. Yes there is abuse in some situations, but, you could also blame HS and AAU. As my son said after his injury....

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"Don't give me the candyass excuse that this happened for a reason, it happened because I'm a pitcher, and these injuries happen to pitchers".

I remember your son's quote from the first time around...it's as good now as it was then rz!

How's he doing with his recovery?

rz,
Good post and you are correct, college (for a pitcher)does not necessarily mean gloom and doom. Things hapen way before that time. As a matter of fact I think the statistics are raising regarding players who have had TJS just entering college or a year into college, which means the damage begins way before they set foot on the field at college. I remember once someone told us NOT to send DK to school as they would ruin his arm. I have not seen that at all, in fact, just the opposite, more concern than I expected.
My post was taken from a post sent to me, not an original.

When your son found out he needed surgery, did he stop immediately or did he say, I'll help my team win this year, then go have surgery. No he didn't. He might have been able to pitch through the pain, as some pitchers can for a while. But you yourself told me the best thing that happened was to find out what needed to be done and do it asap.
I think that is what I find most interesting. The different approaches to the injury.

I in no way am blaming the coach for the players injury or any players injury. It's tough in a players draft year to go ahead and have surgery (as you know), but it was obvious he was having problems all year. It was even reported, as Dad04 stated in BA a while back.

Our players really work hard for their future, and let's face it, in the end we all want our sons, if they get drafted, to be able to get some bonus for their efforts, to live on, to have if things don't work out. Why put that in jeopardy.

I am sorry to rant, but I think by now you all know how I feel about keeping pitcher's arms healthy.

Big weekend for little rz. He flys to Alabama on Monday to get his release from Dr. Andrews group to start throwing again. He has no regrets on how he was used in college. All through life he never had a sore arm but that changed throwing the 75th pitch of an 80 pitch pen which he claims was the best pen of his life. This happened week before this last season started when he hadn't thrown the summer before and was on a structured "build-up" pitch count all Fall and Winter.

Many scouts have told him that from other pitchers drafted his elbow will be "stamped as fresh". Ryan thinks some say it as a "feel good" message but at the same time feels there is some truth to it. I do agree that the TJ injuries are a result of over throwing, but that is an accumulation from your youth to the day you are hurt, and everyones threshhold is different.

TPM, Ryan felt a tweak, the next pitch went part way to the plate. The initial diagnosis was a partial tear and to wait 8 weeks and see how it felt, and that's what his coach was hoping. Ryan did not like the 60-70% chance that it would heal by itself, besides that would have meant that he would have to, because of school, wait until June for surgury and miss all of next season if it did not heal or he waited. As far as we were concerned it was not a coaches decision, it was Ryans, based on Doctors opinions. If you wrote all the issues down it was a no brainer. If all goes as planned he will be close to 100% by March.

Arm damage is cumulative--not just one event--- at the college or pro level one event may trigger the culmination of the years previous--the arm just gives out

rz1,

Best wishes to Ryan for his visit this weekend with Dr. Andrews' office, and good luck when he begins THROWING!!!!!!! again!


I've been thinking of him and hope you will keep me updated.

Julie

rz....add my "good luck" to your list regarding your visit to Doc Andrews office. FYI, Joe's arm is feeling GREAT now! A few minor setbacks along the way, but the end result is a healthy and strong arm. Good luck!