Interesting choice

My understanding is that if you are receiving baseball aid -- and at the D1 level, if you are, it has to be at least 25% -- unless you violate the terms of your NLI (bad grades, misconduct, etc.) the school has to honor your deal for at least the first year.  But deals are year to year and do not have to be renewed.

NCAA does now permit programs to offer to make the NLI commitment for 4 years, but in practice I have yet to see anyone do it.  I have suggested to players that they at least inquire as to whether the program will make that commitment, but for some reason players are just too timid to raise the subject.

Players who get money are counted towards the 35-man roster limit and also towards the 27-man scholly limit, so cutting them doesn't do the team much good, because they cannot be replaced.  The coaches' choices are limited to trying to persuade or bully the kid into leaving, or, if he thinks the kid is poisoning the clubhouse, he can cut him and lose the roster depth.

A kid might well leave voluntarily, though, if he learns he's not wanted.  The sooner he leaves, the sooner the clock starts ticking on his one year sit-out time.  So if you leave in December of freshman year, you can be eligible for the spring season somewhere else as a sophomore, and you can have all 4 years of eligibility (i.e., as a soph you'd be labelled a "redshirt freshman").  If you figure you aren't going to see the field as a freshman where you currently are, this kind of a move makes sense.

"NCAA does now permit programs to offer to make the NLI commitment for 4 years, but in practice I have yet to see anyone do it"

2013 NLI to CA Dl "Type of Scholarship: 4 Academic Years". 2013 still knows that he has to work hard and compete to keep it. They can always make things miserable and try and force him out if he does not perform. 

That young man is smarter than his years. Very perceptive and he likely made an excellent choice. Happens all of the time. Coaches at the highest level are paid to win, period. 

Stafford, you post a lot of scenerios here, I am wondering what percentage of them that you have just heard or learned about through other sources other than the recruit or player themselves. Yo are repeating what a recruit "heard".

Not that this doesn't happen because it does, I do know of one program that used to do it on occassion, top 20 D1 but they would ask players not to show up before school began and void the NLI so they could not receive scholarship money, they don't do it anymore, they earned a bad reputation and it shows because they are no longer top 20 program.  I think it stinks but it allows the player to get into a program without losing eligibility.  I would like to know (you can send me a pm) what top 20 program did this because I thought those days were over (getting cut before you get to campus).  It is not uncommon for coaches to ask players to leave after a year, but that would be all throughout all divisions.

BTW, D2 programs have no limit on roster, and many over recruit all of the time, they also have only 9 scholarships. Was that scholarship he got ALL baseball money or was it combines with academic as well?   Keep in mind the sit out rule applies to D1 only. Chances are that he will get more playing time at the D2, however, never go to a program on a promise you will play, because the last I checked, players had to ERN playing time, even the ones with the good scholarships (they may get more chances but they still have to earn their position).

Coaches have reputations to uphold, the good programs recruit well, I am assuming that they only ask kids not to show up if there are personal issues or they didn't make it because of grades, test scores.

JMO

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BOF posted...That young man is smarter than his years. Very perceptive and he likely made an excellent choice. Happens all of the time. Coaches at the highest level are paid to win, period.

 It takes a very disciplined person to turn down the D1 spotlight, money, and hoopla for something generally perceived as less.   It is very clear that he knows what he wants, and he doesn't care what everybody else thinks.  Smart kid.  I tip my cap to him.

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However, do some schools offer money and then pull it away after the first semester? I assume this is "over recruiting". However, I would have guessed that players who were offered money were safer than those who walked on. Does this happen regularly at some of the top programs?

It can happen anytime you are receiving money from the school.  It can even happen before the recruit gets there.  The only ones who are possibly safe are the ones producing for the program.