Interference by retired runner

If a retired runner (I guess you can call a runner who has already scored 'retired') interferes, the runner being played upon (or would have been played upon) is declared out.

If there was no play to be made, then there cannot be interference.

Since your post does not tell us what other runner, if any, was being played upon, we cannot accurately answer your question. If the batter-runner had not become a runner as part of this play, there is no provision to call him out since there's no play on him.

You need to provide more details.

but there is no provision to declare a runner out who has already legally scored (note the legally part, for all you 'appeal' guys ). Even in malicious contact, the run stands if the offender has scored legally prior to his contact.

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Originally posted by LonBlue67:
If a retired runner (I guess you can call a runner who has already scored 'retired') interferes, the runner being played upon (or would have been played upon) is declared out.

My 2006 NFHS Rules Book defines a "retired runner" as a runner who has been put out or has scored but is still in live-ball area". But I agree that "retired" sounds more like "put out".

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If there was no play to be made, then there cannot be interference.

Since your post does not tell us what other runner, if any, was being played upon, we cannot accurately answer your question. If the batter-runner had not become a runner as part of this play, there is no provision to call him out since there's no play on him.

You need to provide more details.

The batter-runner became a runner and the attempted put-out would have taken place at/near 2B.

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but there is no provision to declare a runner out who has already legally scored (note the legally part, for all you 'appeal' guys ). Even in malicious contact, the run stands if the offender has scored legally prior to his contact.

Thanks. That answers my question.

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Even in malicious contact, the run stands if the offender has scored legally prior to his contact.

There is one exception to this. If the bases were loaded prior to the play and the malicious contact is made by the runner from third after he scored, he would be called out and ejected. And if not the third out, the batter-runner would also be called out.
(Force play slide rule violation)

Pilsner:
If he has already scored then commits a MC then he isn't out. A FPSR is before he scores.
I would be interested to know what the runner did to be called for the interference in the first place.

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Originally posted by Michael S. Taylor:
Pilsner:
If he has already scored then commits a MC then he isn't out. A FPSR is before he scores.
I would be interested to know what the runner did to be called for the interference in the first place.

Not sure if you're talking about my situation or Pilsner's hypothetical situation. In my case, I don't know. Once I saw the runner slide safely into home plate, I looked away toward the batter-runner at 2B. I didn't see what took place with the base-runner after he touched home plate.

The first sentence was to pilsner about his play. The second was for your OP. I was wondering what the runner did to getan call after he scored.

Michael,

With all due respect, the runner in my hypothetical situation (force play at plate) is not relieved of his obligation to avoid contact with the catcher even though he has already scored. The runner, on a force play, cannot go beyond the base (2nd, 3rd or plate) and make contact or alter the play of the fielder.

Case book reference:

8.4.2 SITUATION Y: The bases are loaded with (a), less than two outs, or (b), two outs. B4 hits a ground ball to F4, who throws to F2 for the force out at home. The throw pulls F2 off home plate several steps toward the first-base side. R1, seeing F2 ready to make a play on B4 at first base, touches home plate and maliciously crashes into F2. RULING: (a) Since this is a force-play situation, R1 and B4 are declared out and no one scores. R1 will be ejected from the game. In (b), R1 will be declared out and ejected for the contact, and no run will score.

You are correct. I stand corrected, on a FPSR it can't go beyond the base and get the catcher.

good catch, pilsner, thanks

Hey, I get lucky sometimes!

excellent catch.....the harder you study the luckier you get eh pilsner?........good call......put me to reading the rule book.....!