Is this a balk?

It's close, but I have a discernible stop. No balk.

Boy is that close... I might call it... let me think about it and will let you know in the 5th inning with the go ahead run on 3rd...LOL

Looks like a balk too me. The only part you are allowed to flinch is your head.

Balk imo.

I think it is too short of a clip to really tell.

These are the ones that drive coaches nuts. We play this team twice and one game it's a balk and the next game it's not.

I think it's a balk.

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Originally posted by BOF:
I think it is too short of a clip to really tell.

That's why I deleted my post. When I went back to review it I realized I couldn't tell at what point the clip started and I couldn't, from the clip, definitively tell if the hands were already slightly moving when the clip started.

Basically from this clip, on my computer, I cannot tell if what I am seeing is the end of coming set or a second move after coming set.

Jimmy when I watched the video I assumed that the pitcher was set from the moment the video starts. Then he resets his hands and almost immediately goes to the plate. IF he was set from the start of the video then he resets his hands and goes to the plate would you see this as a balk? Does this make sense to you?

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Originally posted by Coach_May:
Jimmy when I watched the video I assumed that the pitcher was set from the moment the video starts. Then he resets his hands and almost immediately goes to the plate. IF he was set from the start of the video then he resets his hands and goes to the plate would you see this as a balk? Does this make sense to you?

Yes a double set is a balk.

My assumption was the clip started in the middle of the stretch. The hands were still moving and when they stopped, it was for the first time.

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Originally posted by Coach_May:
Jimmy when I watched the video I assumed that the pitcher was set from the moment the video starts. Then he resets his hands and almost immediately goes to the plate. IF he was set from the start of the video then he resets his hands and goes to the plate would you see this as a balk? Does this make sense to you?

Yep. If he had come set and made that move and stop prior to the pitch, I've got a balk.

Like, Dash, I thought he was moving slowly from the beginning of the clip. Now, I can't swear either way.

When I watched it I thought he was set the moment the clip started. Thats why I said balk. But now I am not sure either. The distance the runner got hosed makes me believe the runner was fooled as well.

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Originally posted by Coach_May:
When I watched it I thought he was set the moment the clip started. Thats why I said balk. But now I am not sure either. The distance the runner got hosed makes me believe the runner was fooled as well.

Coach, I know you know there is nothing illegal about fooling the runner. Heck, that's the goal. There's a difference between deception and illegal dececption.

But I hear that often, even at the college level, as a reason a move should be called a balk. "Jezzus, Jim, my runner couldn't tell what he was going to do....that's gotta be a balk."

No, Skip, that was a great move.

I agree that it is hard to tell from the clip. It does look like he is still moving at the beginning of the clip, if he is then he is good, if not then balk.

Very true Jimmy.