Is this a captain's duty?

Bags

In my mind cuts are the coaches duty

Dont make it worse for your sdon by having him go to the AD--just have him tell the coach "not"--not part of being the captain

How to tell the coach no ?---simple NO !!! Not my JOB

Ewwwww Bags! I've never heard of that - horrible to ask your son to handle that situation!

I agree with TR - think your son should just discuss with his coach at this point.

If the coach isn't willing to be an honorable man and tell the boy he is cutting himself, your son shouldn't have to do it for him. Your son can definitely take the high road by politely telling the coach that while he respects his authority, it isn't fair to put your son in that position and that this is the coaches responsibility to the cut player, and to the entire team to handle this himself. Time for the coach to show some leadership.

Bags, first ... congrats again on your son's college selection.
second ... sadly from your previous posts this is "the continuing saga" of a bad coach

if it were me, I'd leave the boy out of it & be sitting in the AD's office for a conference after lunch today - jmo

OR - son could look coach in the eye & tell him
"look coach, if you're giving ME that much responsibility ...
"Captain says" HE'S ON THE TEAM!!

btw, is coach also a teacher?

That is just flat out WRONG! No way he should make a player tell another player that he's cut.

What a great way for your son and his friend to remember there years in school. Hey remember when you cut me!! This coach is an idiot.

I just love how lately the word "idiot" comes up so frequently.

Is this a sign of the times?

Read a website post, don't agree and then call the guy an idiot?

bagsbaseball,
This is not the right thing for a coach to do. I am not sure if he is a new coach and is thinking that it would be easier to hear from a friend or what, but it is not the right way to do things. I would simply advise your son to tell the coach that since it is his decision to cut the player that it would be better for the player to hear it from the coach in case he has questions. Let him know that he is uncomfortable doing that job. Good luck.

It should not be your sons responsibility, but if he can address the fellow that has been cut in such a way that eases his personal dislike for the task and at the same time facilitates the coaches request, he will probably prevent any further strain.

He could approach the other player explaining to him that he was told by the coach to inform him that he did not make the final team roster and at the same time instruct him to seek answers from the coach as to why. Depending on the type of relationship if any that your son has with this individual at the very least he can explain that he did not like being asked by the coach to tell him. They will have some common ground.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Read a website post, don't agree and then call the guy an idiot?

So you're saying the captain should be the one to cut a classmate/teammate/friend versus the coach?

TR, get over it! Any coach who does this is an idiot.

I guess I should have added, that our high school does not have enough players to hold tryouts. The coach said the player should be cut because he went on a college visit for 2 days and had a doctors appt. There are some family issues with this player. The player is a great kid, never ever a problem. I think he has a lot of responsibilies at home. This is the coaches second year at our school, but he has coached before and played DI college ball YEARS ago. He had no trouble throwing two kids off the team last year for behavior issues.

Bags - regardless of the circumstances (college visit, Dr appointment), it's still the coach's responsibility to cut a player, IMHO. What's he going to do in tough game-time situations, make your son coach too???

He would probably do a better job

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The coach said the player should be cut because he went on a college visit for 2 days and had a doctors appt.

I don't undestand how these would justify cutting the kid, especially the doctor's appointment?

BTW, this may be the first discussion on HSBBW where opinions were unanimous about anything.

Gosh Bags....this is a new low....doesn't say much for the Coach....but I don't think going to the AD is the answer....yet.

Think son needs to tell Coach...no...and state his reasons....which should probably not include the fact that the Coach lacks the necessary equipment to do his job.......if the chips don't fall right....then I'd go to the AD....but think I'd first let son try and deal with the Coach....

bagsbaseball - I don't know whether you are the boy's mother or father, but you need to speak with the coach. If both parents are available they both should speak to the coach. Quickly!

I know I would be in the coaches office in a heartbeat. I would be diplomatic but firm in my position that the coach has made a mistake.

The coach has put your son in an impossible situation that no 17 year old should have to deal with. This is where good parenting comes in. It is up to you to be strong for him and make the situation right.

There are tons of people, adults no less, who have to deal with situations like this on the job and aren't able to handle it. Bosses(person in power) telling their employees to do things they shouldn't have to do and most employees unable to tell the boss he is wrong for fear of retribution. Don't let your son handle this alone.

My suggestion to you is to approach the coach without your son present and ask him if he did, indeed, ask your son to tell a player he is cut from the team. Whatever the coach says, you need to let him know that there is no way you would let your son tell his friend he just got cut. If the coach is unresponsive to your desire to talk to him, or still feels it is your sons job as captain, you need to escalate to the AD, or further than that if need be.

You should also talk to the parents of the boy the coach wants to cut and let them know what is going on as well. I'm sure they will be just as shocked as you and go looking for the coach themselves. But talk to the coach first to confirm that what your son is telling you is indeed accurate.

And get this done as soon as possible, the faster the better.

BEEZER

Stop trying to put words in mouth !!!---what I said is I truly don't like poster calling the coach an "idiot" because of his procedures. The word gets used to frequently on websites

First of all congrats to your son being named captain of his team. This is something to be very proud of.

Your son should not have to cut players or tell them that they have been cut. It is hard as hell for a grown man to tell a kid that he is cut much less a young man that is not even the coach. This is not his job and he should not have to do this. The coach needs to do his job and not delagate it to his players. There could be many reasons the coach wants your son to do it and or does not want to do it himself. But the bottom line is it is the coaches job and no one elses. I would tell my son to talk to the coach and tell him that he does not feel comfortable doing this. Good Luck

Maybe the coach is testing your son in some way? Who knows. But I do not feel it is his responsibility to make cuts.

I too think your son should address the coach and if that does not work out you may want to get involved.

Strange, strange situation.

If all else fails... Give up the captainship!

Who wants to be a captain on this ship?

If that is a true story it ought to be in that little paragraph each week that Sports Illustrated runs titled, "this weeks sign of the Apocolypse" ....

This is a very true situation, not a story. My son did talk to the AD and asked how to handle the situation. The AD told him he would talk to the coach. Not even 15 minutes after my son talked to the AD, the coach found him and told him he was "just kidding." What a bunch of BS. You spend your whole life telling kids to tell the truth, stand up for what is right and the coach tells the kid a lie right to his face. Oh well, maybe this will help the school system to rethink the coaching for next year.

Considering the initial situation, the coach's response should come as no suprise.

Bags - Glad at least that the coach knows where your son stands. I always question these stories about coaches, but I'll say I think this guy might just be a weird bird!!!!

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Originally posted by TRhit:
BEEZER

Stop trying to put words in mouth !!!---what I said is I truly don't like poster calling the coach an "idiot" because of his procedures. The word gets used to frequently on websites

Sorry TR, you're right. In this case, if it was my son, I would've called him that to his face.