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That the same kid that gripes when he doesn't start or hit in the top of the order, has a parent doing the same thing in the stands?

That this is the same kid that doesn't attend the free hitting camp at his own HS and his parents say "He needs some time off, those coaches take it way to seriously".

That some kids show up at college camps with their nose in the air like the game owes them something because someone told them they were good, and their dad is the one in the stands telling everyone how good their kid is.

That the college coaches never get a true look at this kid because the parent of this kid has already made them sure they dont want either one of them.

That the players that can really play seem to be the ones that are always wanting to stay late after practice for extra reps. And their parents never complain about them staying late.

That the players that never make excuses when they fail have parents in the stands that never have excuses for why their son failed.

That the players that dont start but still work hard and have a great attitude have parents that dont complain and encourage them to keep working hard.

That the players and parents that bash PG events are the ones that did not perform well at the events or have never attended one.

That the pitchers that stay calm and relaxed on the mound when the pressure is on have the parents in the stands that are not saying "Throw strikes".

That the kid that always seems to be clutch at the plate does not have a dad in the stands saying "Look for the curveball".

That the kid that shows respect for his coaches does not have a dad in the stands telling everyone that the coaches are idiots and why did they have their kid bunt in the third inning.

That the make up of the player almost always seems to mirror the make up of the parents.

That the player that constantly is saying "Hes not that good" has a parent saying the same thing.

That some coaches seem to win at the HS level regardless of the level of talent. And some only win when the talent level is far superior to the opponent.

That the same HS coach that says its not his responsibility to help kids find a place to play in college are the same HS coaches that cant be found in the off season.

That the HS coach yells and screams at his players for not getting a crucial bunt down in the 7th inning but never works on bunting in practice.

That the HS coach cant understand why his guys wont go backside on the pitcher working the outside all day but never works on hitting opposite field in practice.

That the make up of a HS team will always mirror that of the HS coaches.

Maybe its not that funny after all.
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I know what you mean - funny as in no coincidence.

The easiest thing to do in baseball or any endeavor for that matter is to talk, hype, degrade, ridicule, complain, and so on and so forth. As soon as you let yourself make an excuse, you are on the path to career destruction. Kids do not allow your parents to make excuses for you. Parents encourage humility and a quiet/determined work ethic and you may be surprised at the results.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. “ Theodore Roosevelt
Coach, good post and your thoughts are right on. I like the parent comments. It goes to shows that the definition of "daddyball" may include more than coaching. As a parent we usually do not go to that extent of involement when talking about our kids issues in school, or their job. Why is it that many parents are more vocal and critical when we talk about the kid playing a game?

Deldad, Great quote!
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Coach May, great post. From reading your posts on various topics, here and there, I think it would be a privilege for a young man to be part of your program.

Deldad, that is a great quote, I have always told my kids never to fear failure, alot of the time with your best effort you will fail, but rather always work hard and never accept failure as an option. Prepare yourself to succeed.
Coach May,
Probably true to a great degree but the thing to avoid is stereotyping a player based on his parent's actions. I've seen wonderful parents whose kid is a nightmare and I've seen hard working, dedicated players whose parents could care less and every shade in between. There was a great hard working set of parents in the program. The older brother was an extremely hard worker who although he was a starter might not have gotten all the playing opportunities he deserved. The parents never said a thing. The younger one was a goof off and nothing like the parents or the older brother. He was cut. The parents didn't complain. He's back in the program now a bit wiser. I think that example both reinforces and at the same time makes one be careful about what you've written.

The other thing that some coaches don't realize is that they don't always have a very good perspective on parents. There are parents who are very good at ******* up and we all know it. Sometimes those parents can be very useful to a coach as long as he's using them and not vice versa. I know of a parent who is extremely helpful to the program. I've also seen that parent turn on a coach in a moment if that parent didn't think their son was getting his deserved playing time. Yet since the player is talented and hard working, the HS coach will most likely never see that side of the parent.

Coaches with thick skins who can treat the kids based on the kid's strengths and weaknesses rather than the parent's are going to be better off.

It isn't travel ball, and in most cases "bad" parents can be isolated, rather than having to kick the kid off the team to get rid of them.

I'd also be careful about generalizations about the HS coaches.

I've seen coaches who didn't spend a lot of time going out and selling their players to colleges yet cared very much about the players and their futures, and worked with the players throughout the off season wherever the rules allowed.

I've seen very good coaches have losing seasons simply because the talent wasn't there. The teams played well, didn't give up, and won games they probably shouldn't have but still ended up with a poor record just because the talent they faced was so good. Our league sends a team to the championship almost every season but the competition is so strong that every team in the league has losing seasons. The team that was one of the best in the nation last year could be the worst in the league this year. The coach had great talent last year and won't this year. Let's face it when a coach loses two pitchers throwing in the low and mid 90s his results are going to suffer. When a coach wins year in and year out it doesn't mean that he could win without talent. It usually means that because he is a good coach he can attract talent year in and year out, but not every school is in a position or area where that works no matter how good the coach is. There's a school in our area that vies for the national title as often as not. They've got a very good coach, but they've also got talent each and every year so there's really no way to say that he could win without the talent. Their direct competition in the league happens to be from just down the street and they draw from the same talent pool. Those two teams are the best every year and the other teams in the league not drawing from that talent pool are just plain out of luck.

The other thing is that the very best coaches build their program around the abilities of their players rather than around a fixed style of play. If you've got a ton of power one season, you'll play a different brand of ball than if you've got a ton of light hitting speedsters. If you've got power pitching you'll play a different brand of ball than you will if you've got finesse pitchers.
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