Ivy League - SAT range?

Slotty,

Welcome to HSBBWeb, as I see you are a new poster. Congrats on raising a talented young man.

Please review this thread (below) about "Harvard University" as there are passages about the Academic Index (AI). You need to understand the AI inside and out if your son is being recruited by Ivy schools. The AI includes standardized tests (SAT, SAT2, or ACT), GPA, and class rank.

Your son will need to score above 1800 is the general rule of thumb. With that 1800 score, he will need to be an absolute stud. The higher the standardized score the less Coach with have to try to help him get through Admissions.

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/f...6003481/m/8397027595

If you have specific questions, please feel free to PM me. Good luck

Use the collegeboard.com website for sat range for schools. Like Fenway said unless he is a STUD you to need to fall in the middle 50% range to even have a shot. (unless its Cornell)haha

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Originally posted by slotty:
My son is a 2012 RHP. Throws high 80s now with a filthy slilder and a dead fish circle change. Looks likely that he'll add a couple of mph during the season. Excellent student at a top school but historically hasn't aced standardized tests. He'll get his first SAT score this week. If he takes the SATs a couple of times, we're hoping he can mix and match some of the scores to get between 1700 and--if the stars are shining down on him--1900. Three Ivies have show strong interest but really want to see his scores. Any personal experience on this board regarding what will be good enough for them?

Has he taken the ACT`s?

Make sure he also takes the SAT subject tests. They are required. Also, he will be interviewed, and he needs to be able to speak at length about some of the books he's reading. (Our daughter is a recruited tennis player at Harvard.)

Feel free to email me if I can help in any way.
Good luck!

Depending on the school we were told 1250-1300 on the Math and English. Many schools look less closely at the essay as the score is subjective as to whom is scoring.

Thank you all; so very generous of you to share your insight. He's not a stud--yet; his junior season should be telling. He hasn't taken the ACT's or SAT subject tests yet, fyi. I read the thread about Harvard as suggested--very helpful. My impression is that Harvard baseball is a slightly different (more exclusive) animal that its Ivy brethren, that their standards are perhaps even more exacting than the others--or am I mistaken?

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My impression is that Harvard baseball is a slightly different (more exclusive) animal that its Ivy brethren, that their standards are perhaps even more exacting than the others--or am I mistaken?

The AI for each college, and each sport will be different (ie tennis may be higher than football as an example). The specific AI for each college is not made public. I've read on some sites that the AIs for Harvard, Yale and Princeton are rumored to be close to 220. Brown, Dartmouth and Penn are around 216, and Cornell and Columbia are around 210. AI minimum is 171. These are merely rumored averages, and your rumor mileage will vary. Bottom line is that all Ivy schools will recruit the best athlete for its program that it can get accepted by Admissions.

Also, keep in mind that each Ivy is unique. The only common bond is that they are in the same conference and play by the same athletic recruiting and admissions rules. Our experience was that each had a different baseball recruiting approach. I suggest going to each interested school and meeting with the coaches to learn about their program or attend a camp. This will give your son a better idea about the balance and fit of baseball and academics at that school. This is the biggest aspect to all of this IMHO regardless of what college (anywhere!) your son attends. I hope this helps.

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My impression is that Harvard baseball is a slightly different (more exclusive) animal that its Ivy brethren, that their standards are perhaps even more exacting than the others--or am I mistaken?

I know a baseball player who just graduated from Harvard. He was accepted with a 3.5 and 1250 five years ago.

Harvard has the ability to bend things further than some simply because they are Harvard. It helps if the person they are bending for is the first in his family to attend college, or comes from a lower income background. The better off the recruit, the better his grades and scores should be. [Thats the way admissions sees it. Not the coaches.]

This is especially true of the grades. All of these schools have a lukewarm view of Bs vs As, and a couple of Cs and low board scores will wipe out your upper 80's fastball pretty quickly.

Generally speaking, if you look at the rosters and bios of athletes at the Ivy league, you'll find a remarkable number of them came with national honor society credentials, and other academic honors. There are some admitted with simply good grades and scores, but not all that many. The coaches will let you know where you fit.