Ivy League - Princeton's October Prospect Camp

I have noticed that HYP tends to hold closer to the 7-8 players per year than the other Ivy schools.

I agree that is the norm, but Princeton had 4 last year and 9 this year!

Went to an Ivy baseball camp a couple of years ago, with coaches from four Ivies in attendance. Pretty candid Q&A.

Relative to this topic, gist was that each school sets its overall limit of slots. Football is carved out at 30. Then the other coaches make their case to the AD for the rest of the available slots.

Criteria AD will use are roster spots that need to be filled as a result of graduation/attrition, success of the program, fundraising performance, and other stuff.

Not all coaches want to grab for every slot they can get. Take baseball for example. Travel squad is limited to 20, or 22 when playing 2 or more doubleheaders on the same trip. Penn has a roster of 34. That means 12-14 kids are gonna be left behind on every trip. Some will probably dress only for home games all year. Some coaches don't think that is good chemistry and shoot for squads in the 27-29 range, even if they could have negotiated for more. Translates into 7-8 recruits per year.

Are you sure on that number Greenlight?  I found an Ivy document from three years ago, dated 8/12, that says three game trips or 2 DH weekends the travel squad can be 24.  No 24 limit if they are on school vacation.  Might be outdated, but that's what I found. 

The travel limit is one of the things that really irritates me about Ivy baseball, if a kid makes the roster then he's on the team and should be part of the team when it travels.  The cost savings, especially on a bus trip isn't that much different.  I don't like it.

I just checked Columbia's roster for this year - 32 players listed, 11 of which are seniors.  Assuming they have one or two with injuries or that lose the desire to play, I would think Columbia's class next year will be 12 or 13, just like Penn's this year.

My source is page 61 of the Ivy Manual

http://ivyserver.princeton.edu...al2011-12%20copy.pdf

But maybe this has been amended. Gotta admit I had the number 24 in mind too, but when I checked the Ivy Manual it said 22. Glad if you could post up your source so we can get the correct info out there!

This is what I found.  No idea if it is right or wrong, but appears to be Ivy letterhead.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t...VtjPvWif5Aq4u2Akah2A

You are correct, 9and7dad! I missed the last amendment. Limits are 20/24, as follows:

Baseball Travel Limits – Applies to all games, Ivy and non-Ivy, before and after spring break: 1 single game on 1 trip: 20, DH on 1 trip: 20, 2 single games on 1 trip: 20, 3 game series on 1 trip: 24, 2 DH on 1 trip: 24, 4 or more games on 1 trip: 24, During vacation travel squad is unlimited

https://www.google.com/url?sa=...N4aYo_NQ&cad=rja

EDIT: My point about a34-man Ivy roster stands

9 and 7: I agree with you here. If you are part of a team, you should travel as a team. The players that usually are left behind are the POs who threw much within the last few days or 3rd string position players, and any injured players not at 100%. Then I suppose the freshman.

Just for reference, NCAA D1 travel squad limits are 27, with roster limited to 35. So at least all the possible scholarship recipients may travel.

Great comments here.  Again, thank you.  Really beneficial for a newcomer and helpful to plan out the next steps for my 2018.

He's a talented SS and equally strong in the classroom, and vying for a top academic ACC school.  He would also like to play at a top academic west coast school, but judging by the rosters, the odds go to Cali kids.  

He will attend the Stanford Camp next summer to get a different perspective.  Until then keep working hard in the classroom and workout room.

Gained 6 lb's in last 6 weeks of strength training.  With improved technique he's dropped from 7.3 to 7.0 in 60.  

Apologies in advance if I'm a bit heavy here.  His gig, hear to help plan and support.

Gov, I pm'd you.

Pm'd back.

I noticed on Yale RC Tucker Frawley's blog from last year that the Yale roster had an average ACT score of 31.  Frawley also posted detail about the expected rigor of HS curriculum. http://www.frawleybaseball.com/