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From today's Orange County Register:

Point of no return for Weaver
The Angels will make no further attempt to sign their first-round pick.

By MARK SAXON
The Orange County Register

TEMPE, ARIZ. – The Angels' high-profile draft gamble has blown up. After a winter of acrimonious talks, the team is abandoning its efforts to sign first-round pick Jered Weaver.

Angels general manager Bill Stoneman set a midnight Wednesday deadline for Weaver's agent, Scott Boras, to accept the club's latest offer of $5.25 million spread over five years, and the deadline came and went.

In compensation for not signing Weaver, the Angels will receive a pick between the first and second rounds of this June's draft. That's scant return for losing a pitcher many experts thought could have helped them late this season or early next season.

"This is a guy we would have liked to have added, but is it going to ruin my day? No," Stoneman said.

Boras lowered his asking price from $10.5 million to $8million in recent weeks in an effort to bridge a gap that was more like a chasm when talks began. As a last-ditch effort, Weaver requested a face-to-face meeting between himself, Boras, Stoneman and owner Arte Moreno.

Instead, Stoneman called Boras to set the Wednesday deadline.

Boras accused Stoneman of ignoring information he had been given before the draft indicating what other clubs were willing to pay Weaver. Stoneman denied that,saying, "That's a lie."

The agent said he feels the Angels drafted Weaver to block a team farther down the draft from taking him. The Arizona Diamondbacks had made public statements indicating they wanted to draft Weaver, and they picked at No.15, three spots after the Angels.

"When a club knowingly drafts a player, understands that the value they have on the player is nowhere near the value other clubs have placed on him, you know the only reason they signed the player would be to restrain him from playing," Boras said. "Those scenarios don't often lead to good-faith deals."

Boras said Weaver will continue working out in simulated spring training at the agent's sports fitness institute, then will re-enter the draft in June. He thinks he can get a deal near his original asking price for the Long Beach State right-hander.

J.D. Drew and Jason Varitek - Boras clients - re-entered the draft and eventually landed deals similar to the ones Boras was seeking. Weaver led college baseball in victories, going 15-1, and strikeouts (201) last season.

Both sides felt the other was at blame for the breakdown in talks, but it boiled down to a difference of opinion over the player's worth. Boras thinks Weaver is good enough to pitch at the back end of the Angels' rotation soon, perhaps by the end of this season.

But some in the Angels organization felt Rice right-hander Jeff Neimann, who received a $5.2 million contract from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, was more likely to blossom into a dominant starter. Niemann had arm trouble and might not be major league-ready for several years.

Now, Stoneman said, the club is moving forward with its other business and won't listen to further proposals from Boras. He said Major League Baseball exerted no pressure on him to hold down the contract offer.

"We're not waiting for anything," Stoneman said. "We've got business on the field. From our perspective, the player should be here. He should have been herewhen pitchers and catchers reported. We've got our first spring game (today). He should have been here by now."

The Angels' patience grew thinner as camp progressed. They say they are happy with the talent they took behind Weaver in last June's draft, and the young arms they have in their minor-league system.

"I think it is disappointing, but that's the nature of the business," Angels manager Mike Scioscia said. "We'll move on. We've got a lot of good arms around here, and I'm sure Jered will have a good career. This just couldn't work out right now."

The question now is whether this ugly dispute will sour the Angels' further dealings with Boras. Pitcher Jarrod Washburn is a free agent after this season and he is represented by Boras. In the past, the Angels have been able to do business successfully with the game's highest-profile agent. They signed pitcher Chris Bootcheck, a first-rounder, after the 2000 draft and they were able to work out contract extensions for two other Boras clients, Washburn and Scott Schoeneweis.

Stoneman said it remains to be seen whether this will affect his dealings with Boras.

"If they didn't take it seriously, I don't know what to say," Boras said. "We tried to compromise in this thing."
Mary Ann * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [i]"The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08][/i]
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At least Boras didn't say that Weaver "had a family to feed." For players who were drafted much farther down the "food chain" it seems incomprehensible that Weaver/Boras could turn down that kind of money and opportunity. Maybe just like the NHL players, if you have you have never lost one and your holding out strategy has always worked, you are shocked when it happens the first time...unless they talk some more and reach an agreement. Roll Eyes
Weaver=Idiot

turned down 5.25 over 5 years? I wonder about the sanity of some of the players these days, that contract right there is equal to the major league average, and he hasnt even played a minor league game yet. Seems like a pretty good deal to me, sure weaver is a good pitcher, but hes not that great, he should be happy to get offered what he did.
Dad04 ...

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he's no Mark Pryor.


My sentiments exactly.

Heard his agent on the radio tonight being interviewed by some So Cal sports talk personalities ... trying to sound like it was all the Angels' fault, that Weaver is the first college player to come along in multiple years who is ready for the bigs, yada yada yada. He culdn't resist comparing him to Pryor, as he usually does, but I don't tink he is anywhere near that level.

Of course, he still hasn't stepped foot in a professional camp or dugout, so predictions such as "he will contribute to the MLB club almost immediately" are without basis.


Three current Angels pitchers ... Donnelly, Shields and Lackey ... were interviewed by the same sports talk guys, and all three said that Weaver needs to take the money, get to camp, and play baseball.
FBM

His stats are not All-Worldly. I watched him last spring in a regional game, I think. He got knocked around a good bit, as anyone can, but he just didn't look that great to me. Downhill fastball around 90 and iffy breaking stuff. Big Wup.

It all just sounds like a big gravy train off his brother to me.
I don't necessarily think Weaver is doing the right thing or trying to debate his value but...

With all due respect to Peter Gammons... there are only two ways a player can make a lot of money and one of those ways is when they sign that first contract.

I do agree that the first contract is not as important as the later possibilities, but for some the first contract has turned out to be the only big one. Especially when talking about pitchers.
But if you don't sign the first...? Eek
Boras' track record shows he has been successful by waiting. Eventually he has almost always come out ahead and so have his clients so far as the first contract is concerned. Eventually you expect he will make a mistake and end up with a Harrington situation but at least publicly he hasn't so far. Like it or not he knows his business and is very good at what he does. But that tightrope has got to look pretty thin and be very uncomfortable the longer you walk it.

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