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I think that is reasonable but at this point virtually anything can happen. Does he want to go pro? He'll have D1 baseball and football to consider. Football is a full ride. Lots to weigh for this great player.

He also has another baseball season to play and evaluations are on going. Too many variables but he certainly LOOKS LIKE a top 5 round pick at this juncture.
Joe Benson is definitely planning on playing baseball in college. Not sure about his draft status, but he had a strong summer showing playing for Top Tier, JCA in the summer state tournament and Team Illinois at the Palatine showcase. He has been timed 3.8 to 4.1 to first base from the right side and 6.5 to 6.7 in the 60.

He will probably catch for JCA next year but most colleges are looking at him as an outfielder. Schools that are still left that he is considering are Illinois, Missouri, Purdue and Notre Dame.
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15 carries for 249 yards.

Another POUNDING of a "hapless" opponent.

What was the point of scoring 54 points against a defenseless opponent? (48 in the second half)

Gotcha...To maintain the #1 ranking.


Obviously, you were not at the JCA game. The "hapless" opponent was leading 16-12 at half. In the second half, JC scored on 4 seperate 1 play drives. You are nuts if you think they were running up the score. Consider this:
-JC threw a total of 2 passes in the second half
-Every JC TD was via the run
_Every available JC player got on the field.
-JC did not score a point after the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter.
-Seven different players carried the ball


What would you like kids to do? Stop playing hard? Take a knee with nine minutes to go. Tell the defense not to tackle. No one likes scores to get out of hand, but scoring alot of points and running up the score are two different things.
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USD...While I was not at the game, you can't tell me that JCA did not POUND a hapless opponent. 59-14 (or whatever the final score was) is pounding someone. Understand they have to maintain their #1 ranking, but why embarrass kids?

You wonder why so many people hate the Catholic schools.

Wait 'til you see the Nazareth Academy score. That one should be 1,178,308-0. How about St. Joe's, JCA gets pounded by them in basketball, so you pound them in football. That score should be 874-0.

See where Providence pounded hapless Leo 59-8. Is this football?

I just can't wait to see the scores of the DeSales or Hales games. Do they play them this year?

My point is: Why? I know that they are in a "conference", but they should schedule some teams "out of conference" that can play the game of high school football and compete with JCA.


JC plays 9 conference games in the ESCC, which is one of the top 5 football conferences in the chicago area. Therefore, they do not play any non-conference games.

Again, what is your solution. Tell the 3rd stringers to play half-speed. JC did not run up the score. Why would Benet be embarressed? They were leading the #1 team in the area at half-time and continued to play hard for the entire game. I guarentee, the no Benet players left that field embarrased by the score.

Where is the outrage when Morgan Park beats Forman 66-0, or when R-B pounds Elmwood Park 69-6?
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Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
USD...I'm a JCA fan.

If no Benet players were "embarrassed" by the final score (after leading JCA at halftime), then they should drop football.

The ESCC has one team. All of the rest are hamburgers.

Simple as that.

p.s. And let's not get started on the "financial assistance" available to sports stars...having nothing to do with their "academic" performance.


Who is the one team? In the past 15 years, five seperate ESCC teams have played in a state championship football game.(JC,Carmel, Marian, Notre Dame & Marist)

P.S. I have no idea what goes on at Catholic schools other than JCA, but I am directly involved with scholarships and financial aid and JCA. Only about 5% of students at JCA receive any type of financial aid and I know for an absolute fact that athletic ability plays NO ROLE in the awarding of aid. That is an indisputable fact. If someone disagrees, please site a specific example.
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Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
If no Benet players were "embarrassed" by the final score (after leading JCA at halftime), then they should drop football.


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I presume you are kidding. So you think Benet should drop football for not being embarrassed in losing to one of the top teams in the country. By your reasoning, don't play the game unless you are embarrased when you lose? I don't agree and is not what I am trying to teach my kids about sports.
playing with joe benson and watching him everyday i can personally say he has the most talent that i have ever seen on the baseball field... yet talent is not everything in baseball... with a little work he can become more of a complete baseball player and can be the top 5 round draft pick that you guys are talking about...... also to whoever said that catholic schools have no class GET REAL
there were years when jca would get beat by that much and you know what happened... we hired a coach that took the losses to heart and helped bring the program to what it is... i dont know if you are to embarassed by losing to a top rated team in state with national rankings.... what about when jca got spanked by providence a few years ago or how about in the same year getting killed by rockhurst ?
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Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
usd...If I am a high school football player playing for you and I lose the game 58-16 (or whatever the score was)and I don't feel "embarrassed" about it, I'm not much of a football player.

Any kid that doesn't feel embarrassed by a 58-16 score in a high school football game should go play s****r.


I dont even know how to respond other than to say we view sports and competition in completely different ways.
To me it sounds like your arguing the same point. I do not know much about HS Football but other then JCA has established themselves as a powerhouse in that game, not bad at the game called baseball too. As far as feeling embarrassed about a loss, when the team like Joliet looses to a lesser opponent I think then there might be a little embarrassment involved, but to say that the inferior team is embarrassed by loosing to a stud team, I"m not sure. Sounds like Benet or whoever was winning at half ran out of gas. Thats just more then likly where their program is, close but not quit there yet, nothing to be asshamed of because of who you played, the smart losing player, (if there is such a thing )realizes what needs to be corrected from the lose and finds a way to get it done next time. I am just guessing but I have a feeling that the boys at JCA will not allow another team to out work them, be it in the offseason or during a game, that mindset to me is one of any kid who has found themselves in what I call a program. Pride and tradition have a lot to do with it. The rest is just up to the kids. I like to put it this way to my kids, you can learn from a win and a lose, and if a lose doesnt hurt a little bit inside, then maybe they should think of doing something else .
USD...That is why I deleted most of my posts on this thread.

I don't believe IN EVER BURYING any high school team, whether baseball, basketball or football.

They are KIDS....not pros.

Fully 95% of high school kids, especially in football, play the game with no hopes of going anywhere and they beat each other up like crazy for what? A coach? Your teammates? Ok. I understand.

But...Why bury anyone?

You probably would have enjoyed it when Tony Delgado pounded some team a few years ago (I think it was Robert Morris), in baseball, something like 78-2.

Difference between me and you.

You...Would call Tony and congratulate him.

Me...I called him and went "nuts". (I played little league ball with Tony on the streets of Chicago at Dvorak Park and I couldn't believe that he would let that happen/would do that to an opponent.)
i dont really think it was burying a team... jca was losing at half and then after half time they scored on 4 consecutive plays and then took the first string out... you dont really to expect to score on four strait plays... benet could have done the same thing.. but letting the whole team play in a game is not what i consider burying a team.
jcajs...I "just knew" this thread was going to "deteriorate" to something beyond a high school football team BURYING/POUNDING someone, and that is why I deleted my postings.

I'm a JCA fan.

As a matter of fact, Gordie was entirely responsible for my getting a chance to play professional baseball...that is how highly regarded his recommendation was with the professional baseball scouts when he was at Lewis and beyond.

Just asked the question why you have to bury/pound a hapless opponent?
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Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
jcajs...I "just knew" this thread was going to "deteriorate" to something beyond a high school football team BURYING/POUNDING someone, and that is why I deleted my postings.

I'm a JCA fan.

As a matter of fact, Gordie was entirely responsible for my getting a chance to play professional baseball...that is how highly regarded his recommendation was with the professional baseball scouts when he was at Lewis and beyond.

Just asked the question why you have to bury/pound a hapless opponent?


Just because a score is lopsided, it does not always mean the winning team was trying to bury its opponant. In the JCA game we are talking about, what would you recommend?

In reference to Gordie, I was fortunate to play for him in last game as a high school football coach. It seems like he has a connection to virtually every athlete/coach in the area. I have never been around a better leader.
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USD...Congrats to JCA....

No. 1 Joliet Catholic Academy 57 Marian Catholic 7

Joe Benson rushed eight times for 255 yards and four touchdowns in pacing Joliet Catholic Academy (3-0, 3-0) to the East Suburban Catholic win in Chicago Heights. Benson's scoring runs covered 58, 59, 72 and 63 yards. Quarterback Bill McKeon (13 carries, 138 yards) reached the end zone on a 69-yard scamper for the Hilltoppers and also threw a 61-yard TD pass to Dan Hrvatin. Hrvatin also had a 64-yard TD run.

Zack Stevenson scored the lone TD for Marian Catholic (0-3) on a 3-yard run.

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