Josh Hamilton - ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

5 jacks in six ABs if you count his last AB last night.

A man on a mission. What a night!

He is such a talented player.I love watching him play.Special player,they dont come around too often.

He's very special in several ways.

So five straight HRs over two games. Where's our Elias Burueau people? Is that a record?

Sure wish he was still a Ray ! LOL

99% of us couldn't even do that on PlayStation.

I heard ESPN say Hamilton's 18 total bases last night equals Pujols' total bases over the his last 19 games....speaks to both what a special night Hamilton had and how deep a slump Pujols is in.

carols Beltran rocks also 3 in 5 AB's two games including grand slam. 9RBI's.

Crazy performance.

It's been fun watching him play would of been interesting if he had a full career

Actually he had a double in the 5th inning.
Josh's line for the night.
5 for 5
4 2 run HR's
8 RBI
18 total bases

My son's trainer used to work where Hamilton works out in the off season. Last week the trainer commented that Hamilton is the strongest person he has seen, and this is including professional football players.

It is an amazing feat. Truly amazing.

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Originally posted by Doc_K:
Crazy performance.

It's been fun watching him play would of been interesting if he had a full career

Even more interesting if wasn't injured every year and one ounce of self-control.

Unreal. Want to know what he had for breakfast.

Yeah ... But can he keep it up?

Dad04,
The comment about lack of self control is a bit much dont you think? Sounds a bit primitive.

igball- I completely agree. A man recovering from addiction probably requires more self-control than most of us could ever imagine.

igball A bit much what? The guy has the spine of a jelly fish. He's married and having *** in bar bathrooms? That sounds primative to me and forgive me if I don't applaud.

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Originally posted by twotex:
My son's trainer used to work where Hamilton works out in the off season. Last week the trainer commented that Hamilton is the strongest person he has seen, and this is including professional football players.

It is an amazing feat. Truly amazing.

The above and the "times" make me so pessimistic about his "amazing feats." The 14 HR's, .406BA in a contract season, in and of itself isn't unbelievable at this point in the season. However, I like his story but the physical breakdowns and huge numbers certainly aren't without precedent in the steroid culture. I hope that MLB is indeed applying their anti-drug policy/procedures in an equitable manner that targets everybody....

I would like for him to be clean and for real!

Who's asking you to applaud anything? Point is if what he has to confront each day is in truth about self control and choices freely made vs addiction, that's between him and his higher power and not something others can intelligently comment on, IMO. Just some basic understanding of the issue at hand is all I'm saying.

I don't recall seeing Sosa, Bonds or Big Mc hit 4 dingers in a game, even with the juice.

Put me in the Igball and JH camp on this one. It is an amazing feat, and the fact that Hamilton is a recovering from an addiction takes nothing away from it.

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Originally posted by igball:
Who's asking you to applaud anything? Point is if what he has to confront each day is in truth about self control and choices freely made vs addiction, that's between him and his higher power and not something others can intelligently comment on, IMO. Just some basic understanding of the issue at hand is all I'm saying.

Everybody confronts something everyday to achieve his or her goal. God forbid I wake up one day with the body of Adonis, the physical skills of Hercules and some how struggle to walk a straight line to my place of work to make $20 million per year. Cry me a freaking river. He's an idiot. Admit that much, at the very least.

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Originally posted by Dad04:

Everybody confronts something everyday to achieve his or her goal. God forbid I wake up one day with the body of Adonis, the physical skills of Hercules and some how struggle to make a straight line to my place of work to make $20 million per year. Cry me a freaking river. He's an idiot. Admit that much, at the very least.

And it's attitudes like this that make me like and respect Josh all that much more.

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Originally posted by 316sports:

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Originally posted by Dad04:

Everybody confronts something everyday to achieve his or her goal. God forbid I wake up one day with the body of Adonis, the physical skills of Hercules and some how struggle to make a straight line to my place of work to make $20 million per year. Cry me a freaking river. He's an idiot. Admit that much, at the very least.

And it's attitudes like this that make me like and respect Josh all that much more.

Don't tell me. Tell his wife that.

We are all sinners.

Is this how you feel about everyone who has alcohol and drug problems or is it reserved for Hamilton for some reason (ie wealthy, talented, Ranger).

Whatever the source of the rant, its unfortunate that you can't find some understanding to go along with your anger.

Happy trails.

Nope, I dare say, he reserves it only for people that profess to be Christian, because we are the popular targets these days.

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Originally posted by 316sports:
We are all sinners.

Thank you very much for making my point. Your Honor, I rest my case.

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Originally posted by igball:
Is this how you feel about everyone who has alcohol and drug problems or is it reserved for Hamilton for some reason (ie wealthy, talented, Ranger).

Whatever the source of the rant, its unfortunate that you can't find some understanding to go along with your anger.

Happy trails.

Plenty of understanding. Zero respect. He is a very well-documented freaking dirt bag

Dad04, at no point has Josh ever asked anyone to cut him slack for his actions off the field. He clearly has demons he has problem dealing with and he's never said anything different. He's never said hey look at how great I am...never once. Just check into what his teammates say about him...they love him, no better team player. It's beyond me how anyone can feel so negatively about a man struggling with a problem, unless you have been personally hurt by him. You don't have to like him, but there's no doubting his skills on the field.

I don't think I'm cutting him slack, am I? Absolutely no doubting his skills on the field. Barring self-destruction he was destined for the Hall and ikely would have eclipsed many, many records.

Are you married? Do you have a sister, daughter? It is beyond me how anyone with a half ounce of respect for women could have the gall to publicly defend him personally. Teammates will obviously say whatever is expected, but know this.

None of his teammates will be shocked when he implodes and is not there for them. Will they? Is that a good teammate?

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Originally posted by Dad04:
I don't think I'm cutting him slack, am I? Absolutely no doubting his skills on the field. Barring self-destruction he was destined for the Hall and ikely would have eclipsed many, many records.

Are you married? Do you have a sister, daughter? It is beyond me how anyone with a half ounce of respect for women could have the gall to publicly defend him personally. Teammates will obviously say whatever is expected, but know this.

None of his teammates will be shocked when he implodes and is not there for them. Will they? Is that a good teammate?

All I can say is I feel very, very sorry for you.

Same to ya! and I might add the silence of his numerous defenders is deafening, or speaks volumes, dependent upon your perspective.

Dad04, Yes, married 29 faithful years to the same lady. Yes, also have a daughter. I admire Josh's performance on the field. I admire how he handles his personal problems and holds himself accountable for those problems, which clearly get the best of him from time to time. I don't admire his actions when he struggles with his personal problems. I, personally, don't feel the need to judge a sincere person struggling with a problem he will struggle with the rest of his life. If he hurt me or my daughter I might feel differently...probably would feel differently. That's my problem, not his. None of us are perfect...we all just don't live our lives on the stage in front of an audience.

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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
Dad04, Yes, married 29 faithful years to the same lady. Yes, also have a daughter. I admire Josh's performance on the field. I admire how he handles his personal problems and holds himself accountable for those problems, which clearly get the best of him from time to time. I don't admire his actions when he struggles with his personal problems. I, personally, don't feel the need to judge a sincere person struggling with a problem he will struggle with the rest of his life. If he hurt me or my daughter I might feel differently...probably would feel differently. That's my problem, not his. None of us are perfect...we all just don't live our lives on the stage in front of an audience.

Very similar background here. I agree 100%. Thank you for making my point in a more compassionate paragraph. I am simply not a fan of sugar-coating the blatantly obvious. He deserves no slack from me. I know more than I want about him.

Dad04: It's clear that your issue with Hamilton is the infidelity. Not the drugs or alcohol ... certainly not his on-field performance. While I'm ideologically in your camp, I have to ask: How do you reconcile your vitriol with the fact that his wife has apparently forgiven him?

Dad04, I didn't want to even acknowledge your attack until you hinted that those of us who were keeping silent might in any way agree with you. I have read the book and followed his compelling story.

Question: How did you handle it when at age 18 you became a national celebrity and were given more money than you could imagine only to be thrown into the meat grinder as a minor leaguer where you suffer an injury that no one can diagnose and subsequently sidelined. It's at that point you realize you have no one around you and everything you have lived for and told you were destined for seems to have evaporated. How did you handle that? Until you have been there you can only guess what you would do.

Even the apostle Peter (the original rock) after saying he would die for Jesus denied him three times a few hours later when the going got tough. He was humbled and restored and then accomplished great things.

We can hope we never face an obstacle equivalent to our arrogance but pray that we might find the humility which allows us to extend grace to all.

Some do good thing on a field and off none are worth hero worship, they put there pants on one leg at time also.

The guy went unnoticed same week...


WITH WHOM THE BELTRAN TOLLS (4): With a seven-RBI game last week and a six-RBI game last night, Beltran has joined a heady group of Cardinals hitters already, and he’s not even through his sixth week with the club. The switch-hitter is one of nine Cardinals in the modern era to have two games of at least six RBIs in the same season. Here is the list, and their RBI totals for the season:

Jim Bottomley, 1929 -- 137

Chick Hafey, 1931 – 95

Ripper Collins, 1934 -- 128

Johnny Mize, 1940 – 137*

Enos Slaughter, 1946 – 130*

Stan Musial, 1954 – 126

Brian Jordan, 1996 -- 104

Albert Pujols, 2009 -- 135

Carlos Beltran, 2012 -- TBD

There are a few things that stand out about this group that Beltran has joined. All but one (Hafey) finished the season with more than 100 RBIs and two, designated by asterisks, topped the league with their RBI totals. Of the eight Cardinals to get repeat six-packs in a single season, only Collins, Jordan and still-active Pujols are not in the Hall of Fame. But that’s not the real trend. There have been seven Cardinals who have done this season 1930, and all seven finished eighth or higher in the National League MVP voting. Six finished sixth or higher. Hafey, Slaughter and Mize finished fifth, third and second, respectively, and Pujols won the NL MVP in his season with the two six-RBI games. Worth noting.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports...a.html#ixzz1uTKEHKoK

I don't recall anyone saying Hamilton should be worshiped. What Hamilton accomplished was something only 16 people have done, more rare than a perfect game.

I see Josh Hamilton as a very talented baseball player with a very serious illness which he has to struggle with everyday of his life.
He is not perfect and since becoming sober he screwed up 2x. He owns up to it and tries to move on.