My youngest just committed to a juco here in Texas. Coach told him the paperwork was on the way. If he were to receive a D1/D2 offer later in the year, could he get out of the juco scholarship? Both of my sons have been brought up knowing that their word means everything. I don't see him backing out on this offer, but was just asking for my own benefit. I have had several ask me this question and I have no legitimate answer for them.
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Just for the record, he and our whole family are very excited about his decision. I realize it's late for 2017's to sign with 4 year schools and I'm definitely not trying to be unrealistic. Just asking for help.
One aspect of this scenario would have to be any relationship between the JUCO and the DI in question. If there is some history (DI regularly looking at that JUCO for players) then I would think the two coaches could be put in touch and they could hash it out (would assume the DI coach would convince the JUCO coach that it was the right move).
Absent any relationship, I would still be curious as to whether the two coaches could be put in touch to discuss.
If my son were in your son's shoes, I would recommend that he be straight with the juco coach. Tell him there is a chance a D1 or D2 scholarship could come through in the spring, and he would have to accept that offer. The juco coach's job is to move you on to a 4 year school, so he should understand how that works. He also knows that the chances of your son getting a scholarship at this point are not great, so he shouldn't be too worried about it.
There are no NCAA or NJCAA rules that prevent your son from signing both forms of the NLI.
Midatldad, thanks for your help. He is very excited about his decision and has turned down D1 offers. The only way he would back out is if his #1 choice contacted him later. Not likely, but that's ok too. He is 20 minutes from home.
I agree with what MidAtlanticDad said, but perhaps for a slightly different reason. By being straight with the JUCO coach, you can also learn his reaction to that news (at least what he says to your face).
This was a number of years ago, but we visited two colleges with our son on a weekend recruiting trip. The first stop was at a DI that had shown interest in him and before leaving campus, they offered him a scholarship and he knew he wanted to go there. We kept our commitment to also visit a JUCO a couple hours away the next day.
Upon telling the JUCO coach of his D1 offer, that coach reacted by saying "Is that what your goal is? Is that all? Are you satisfied with a program at that level? If you come here for a couple of years, we can develop you to get recruited to a much better program." We were immediately turned off because he went from being very complimentary of our son after first arriving at his office to acting like our son was a "traitor" when we had just met him a short time before.
Also, keep in mind that many JUCO coaches expect their guys to be there for two years, and may only promote the sophomores to four-year programs. If your son's goal is to only be at the JUCO for one year before moving on, I encourage you to check the coach's track record to see if many other players from his program have moved on after just one year.
Also, keep in mind that many JUCO coaches expect their guys to be there for two years, and may only promote the sophomores to four-year programs. If your son's goal is to only be at the JUCO for one year before moving on, I encourage you to check the coach's track record to see if many other players from his program have moved on after just one year.
This is how it is at my son's JUCO.
During my son's recruiting process, the JUCO PC asked him to commit to them, "IF" he wasn't going D-1, and that's what Ryan did. He held to his word, even when more prestigious JUCO offers came.
2 years at a JUCO is not the end of the world, and in fact, it has been a great situation for Ryan, and we look forward to his Soph. year coming up. I believe it has helped Ryan become a better leader, earlier in the process, and he has matured a great deal.
Rynoattack, I agree 100%. I wasn't asking my question on how my son could get out of it. It was just an 'I want to know' question. Our family is very pleased with his decision. He has no plans of going anywhere else unless the college I played for came calling late. Not likely!
rynoattack posted:Also, keep in mind that many JUCO coaches expect their guys to be there for two years, and may only promote the sophomores to four-year programs. If your son's goal is to only be at the JUCO for one year before moving on, I encourage you to check the coach's track record to see if many other players from his program have moved on after just one year.
This is how it is at my son's JUCO.
During my son's recruiting process, the JUCO PC asked him to commit to them, "IF" he wasn't going D-1, and that's what Ryan did. He held to his word, even when more prestigious JUCO offers came.
2 years at a JUCO is not the end of the world, and in fact, it has been a great situation for Ryan, and we look forward to his Soph. year coming up. I believe it has helped Ryan become a better leader, earlier in the process, and he has matured a great deal.
Agreed. My son attended and played for a DII JuCo. In those two years he matured and became a better player and leader. He got more playing time (starter both seasons) than he probably would have at a DI. His play during his sophomore season led to a nice NCAA DII scholarship.
As far as the Juco coach promoting players to 4 year schools, I don't recall the coach working hard to promote freshman as he usually planned on having them for another year.
Overthehill son #2 is officially signing today at a D1 Juco. Needless to say, our family is very excited to have two sons playing college baseball. Especially dad, since both are getting most of their college paid for.
Great to hear OTH. Nice to see kids making dreams a reality.
Off-topic, but how do you know what division a Juco is? I know my son's isn't particularly competitive in its conference but nowhere have I see or heard it's got a "division" classification.
Followup: found this directory, http://www.njcaa.org/member_co...es/college-directory why no California?
California has its own association.
MidAtlanticDad posted:California has its own association.
... with no divisions, just conferences in the North and South, most of it quite competitive. They have their own big State tourney and don't compete in postseason with NJCAA. You will find many California JC transfers contributing at 4 year schools across all levels at schools throughout the country.
