juco vs d1

From the NCAA website:

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What is the National Letter of Intent (NLI)?

The NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution

A prospective student-athlete agrees to attend the institution full-time for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).
The institution agrees to provide athletics financial aid for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).

Basic penalty for not fulfilling the NLI agreement: A student-athlete has to serve one year in residence (full-time, two semesters or three quarters) at the next NLI member institution and lose one season of competition in all sports.

So the answer is not without penalty. In the case of a JUCO....the penalty might apply when you transfer to an NCAA school later. I'd get clarification directly from an NCAA counselor. You can call them directly for the answer.

thanks..i'll give them a call asap

Or you could just read a little deeper on the NLI website. The agreement is satisfied if:
a. One-Year Attendance Requirement. The terms of this NLI shall be satisfied if I attend the institution named in this document for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters) as a full-time student.
b. Two-Year College Graduation. After signing this NLI while in high school and if I later attend a two-year college, the terms of this NLI will be satisfied if I graduate from the two-year college.

Signing a NLI and then attending a JC is common. If the D1/D2 doesn't release the player from the NLI, then he'll need to graduate from the JC.

My son did it.He asked for a release and was granted.Went to a D1 a year after JC and played.

thanks for the replies..son may want to go to juco for a year before the draft..if he goes d 1 he has to stay 3 years..that's the way i've always heard it..is that correct?

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Originally posted by roar!:
thanks for the replies..son may want to go to juco for a year before the draft..if he goes d 1 he has to stay 3 years..that's the way i've always heard it..is that correct?

More or less for the majority of kids. However, if your son was held back in high school and would finish his soph year in college at age 21, then he would be draft eligible.

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Originally posted by roar!:
thanks for the replies..son may want to go to juco for a year before the draft..if he goes d 1 he has to stay 3 years..that's the way i've always heard it..is that correct?

If your son is thinking he would go professional out of HS, make sure that you have done plenty of homework to understand the chances he would reach ML as a player out of HS, perhaps 4-6 years. Would that time be served better in college working towards a degree? Some players get better in college.

Committing to a JUCO doesn't give your son much opportunity to negotiate, or gives your son the impression as an easy sign (no bonus dollars), which would make him a second day or third draft choice unless a stud.

Secure a college scholarship, that should be yor sons number one goal at this time.

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Originally posted by TPM:

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Originally posted by roar!:
thanks for the replies..son may want to go to juco for a year before the draft..if he goes d 1 he has to stay 3 years..that's the way i've always heard it..is that correct?

If your son is thinking he would go professional out of HS, make sure that you have done plenty of homework to understand the chances he would reach ML as a player out of HS, perhaps 4-6 years. Would that time be served better in college working towards a degree? Some players get better in college.

Committing to a JUCO doesn't give your son much opportunity to negotiate, or gives your son the impression as an easy sign (no bonus dollars), which would make him a second day or third draft choice unless a stud.

Secure a college scholarship, that should be yor sons number one goal at this time.

To add to TPM's great advice consider the following:


Approximately 1 in every 200 high school baseball players or .05% will be drafted by a major league team into the minor leagues. Only 5.6% of high school players advance on to college to play at some level of college baseball. Those who make it through college have a better chance to be drafted as 10.5% of college players get drafted or signed as a free agent by one of the teams in major league baseball.

The numbers above show that reaching pro baseball at the minor league level is no easy task. To do so one must obviously have some great talent and athleticism. Out of all players who play minor league baseball about 10% of those players who sign contracts each year will play at least 1 game in the majors.

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jaggerz,
sorry to nitpick, but 1 in 200 is 0.5% (not 0.05%).

Also, if 5.6% of high school players advance to play college ball, and of these 10.5% get drafted or signed, then ~.056% of high school players that play in college end up getting drafted or signed. Pretty much the same percentage as drafted high school players.

oops, that should by ~0.56%...

thanks for all the great info..if anyone else has opinions, i'd be glad to hear them as well

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Originally posted by jaggerz:
The numbers above show that reaching pro baseball at the minor league level is no easy task. To do so one must obviously have some great talent and athleticism. Out of all players who play minor league baseball about 10% of those players who sign contracts each year will play at least 1 game in the majors.

To your point jaggerz I think the number is actually 7%. The stat I don't know is how many actually get to play more than a few games, or part of a season (or two) and sent packing. I think it is a very large percentage, but I don't know the actual stat.

I was thinking about all of the coaches, scouts, trainers, and people I have met through this baseball journey my son has taken me on. Honestly I think I can count on one hand those who I have met who actually had a successful career (earned a decent salary) at the MLB level.

As they say "the reason they have so many rounds in the draft is that they need to have enough players so the first 5 rounders have someone to play with".......