Junior day question?

Junior days are considered un-official visits and therefore any expenses would be out of your own pocket. Official vists cannot be offered until the first day of classes your senior year.

They can give you up to three event tickets at no charge. I think the overnight stay in a player's dorm room is also OK, but somebody may have to check behind me on that.

Meals, plane fare and hotel cannot be reimbursed, though, as PC08 notes. It's not a question of how much they love your son, it's the NCAA's incomprehensible rules.

Here is a link to the NCAA Guide for the Student athlete. If u go to the main Ncaa website I believe you can have 1 guide sent to you at no charge.

On page 29 it discusses the Unofficial Visit
Unofficial visit. Any visit by you and your parents to a college campus paid for by you or your parents. The only expense you may receive from the college is three complimentary admissions to a home athletics contest. You may make as many unofficial visits as you like and may take those visits at any time. The only time you cannot talk with a coach during an unofficial visit is during a dead period.

Based on what I see there are no provisions for overnight stays but I would confirm with school.

Student handbook

I have never heard of overnight stays on Junior Days

We have had several schools suggest staying overnight in a dorm room, but actually I think this is something the admissions department does for kids whether they are athletes or not. Maybe that makes it kosher?

We haven't taken anyone up on it yet. Besides, if the parents still need a hotel room, would your son rather sleep on the floor of a dorm room, or in a hotel bed? You can see all you need to see of a dorm room in a few minutes' visit! In fact, you can see all there is to see of my older boy's dorm room in about 3 seconds, it's that small!

jhstiger Dad - Junior Days are fun, exciting and informative for the players, and the game is free, but the meals and the travel are on you. It is an unofficial visit. Some have a hundred players plus, and some have fewer. They give your son and your family an initial view of their program and school, and thus are valuable. I am not sure you gain any recruiting advantage though, except that you have shown interest and will probably be invited to their summer camp, which depending on the college will be about them making money from your fee, or actually scouting your son. Make a list of your top 20 choices, and make sure this school is on it. Wouldn't advise going just to go... The key is to get the right academic, social and baseball fit.

Your son is a 2008, he cannot receive anything except those tickets, but I amy be wrong.
When we attended junior day at a school lunch was provided at a cost, as was our own transportation and room.

Call to verify. And call the NCAA as well.

If you look upon the junior day as an unofficial visit, call to see how many are attending. Sometimes it's better just to make your own plans and go visit, rather than with 50 others. JMO.

re: the overnight stay

thru the school - most have special dorm arrangements any hs student can make while visiting their campus ... there is usually a cost to be paid by student

crashing with a student - dorm rooms are often filled with visiting friends ...
as there is no benefit received nor expense associated with sleeping in a bean bag chair, you're OK - don't need to call the NCAA

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Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
We haven't taken anyone up on it yet. Besides, if the parents still need a hotel room, would your son rather sleep on the floor of a dorm room, or in a hotel bed? You can see all you need to see of a dorm room in a few minutes' visit!

Oh Silly Dad... a 16 or 17 yr old being able to sleep in a Dorm and hangout with guys and maybe a few ladies on campus or a hotel room with Dad snoring....hmm tough choice.

If he would be staying with ballplayers in the athletic dorms it might be very nice...

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Originally posted by Bee>:
crashing with a student - dorm rooms are often filled with visiting friends ...
as there is no benefit received nor expense associated with sleeping in a bean bag chair, you're OK - don't need to call the NCAA

With NCAA I don't know if thats true...it may still be considered a benefit. I may check on this because a friend of ours may visit our Son on campus to see a game and he technically is a recruit, and would be receiving a benefit (free room).

Just looked at compliance on a college website, this was part of what the document said in regards to unofficial visits:

The University did not provide or reserve for me more than three complimentary tickets
to an on-campus athletic event.
The University did not provide me with transportation off-campus.
The University did not provide me with a complimentary meal.
The University did not provide me lodging in a hotel or student-athlete’s apartment.
The University did not arrange special parking on campus during my unofficial visit.
The University did not reimburse or arrange for my travel to campus.
By signing below, I certify that I have read, understood, and have had the opportunity to
ask questions about this form. I also certify that I have paid for all expenses(transportation, meals etc.) associated with this unofficial trip.

I know most schools when we did unofficial vists would not drive us around campus...had to be our car.

If a recruit has a prior relationship with a player on the team and has been invited for a "sleepover", no questions asked. I do beleive you CANNOT stay in a dorm, but off campus is ok.

Thanks Novice Dad for the info.

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by N-D: a friend of ours may visit our Son on campus to see a game and he technically is a recruit, and would be receiving a benefit (free room).

per your housing agreement with the school your son owns his room for the contract period, no benefit from the university



Midlo, a dog & a beer says my daughter's room is smaller than your son's

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Originally posted by Bee>:
[QUOTE]by N-D: a friend of ours may visit our Son on campus to see a game and he technically is a recruit, and would be receiving a benefit (free room).

per your housing agreement with the school your son owns his room for the contract period, no benefit from the university[QUOTE]

FYI...I called the NCAA yesterday on this, the answer I rec'd was that if it was part of a unofficial visit "technically" he could not stay in adorm unless he paid for his stay. The person I spoke to seemed a little unsure however.

Bottom line if further clarification is needed I would check with school compliance office.

thanks so much everyone! the info everyone provides on this site is awesome

One of the Junior Days we attended started with a basketball game, followed by a speech from the Head coach, a recognized top national recruiter who came from a huge D1 program, capped off by observing practice.

The speech was very informative, and included the teams/coach's grant award policy that was based on building a team first and foremost.

There were 6 players in attendance. Nine months later, my kid was the only NLI. The coaching staff at this school was the deciding factor to play baseball there, even though more grant $$ and bigger power Conferences made offers.

The coaches either came from one of the 2 power conferences or MLB, and all played Pro ball. From a baseball instruction standpoint, how much better can it get.