Kenny Controversy Again

Dirt isn't shiny or mottled, either!!!
Don't like that guy even a little bit! inflammed ego could use a dose of ...hemmroid medication...
Did I say that??

I saw the game on tv. I'm amazed that from what I saw, so many people can immediately identify the exact source of a brown color. Wow. Only one substance could cause that? And folks can tell that just from a camera shot? Superpowers, I guess...

Texan - You got that right....brown color could have come from applying his hemmroid medication.

I was shocked that LaRussa didn't ask for an immediate ejection of Rogers...this is the World Series.

I heard someone on ESPN radio saying he didn't want to insult Leyland, but it is more insulting to have a pitcher out there cheating with pine tar on his thumb.

It is amazing what everyone "sees" on TV

Where was LaRussa?

Why didnt the umps go to the mound?

It was a melted "reggie bar" --nothing more nothing less

Cmon give guy credit--he is pitchin his *** off--I have no favorites in this event so I am just enjoying the games

Heck, TR, they didn't just "see" it looking at that tv picture. They could also smell it! And they could tell it "looked tacky" like pine tar. Shoot, some folks even ran a chemical analysis on the picture.


Looking at the way he pitched the final 7 innings, he should have washed his hands sooner.

Looked like Betadine to me. Maybe he was cleaning a blister?

Ain't denying he pitched great, but, come on, he had the same chocolate bar on his hands in the ALDS and ALCS. He would weigh 350 lbs. if he ate that much chocolate.

Suprised more wasn't made of it. Really suprised.

Why not use the colorless "clean" pine tar?

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Why not use the colorless "clean" pine tar?

As we know, KR ain't the brightest star in the sky.

Do you mean "The Clear" is making a comeback?
I thought it left with Bonds and his court date...

I know the rules, but find it somewhat funny the fuss over a 40+ guy shutting down the Yanks, A's, and Cards. What is the difference in a rosin bag v. whatever KR is using.

1. rosin bag (n)
a small bag filled with a sticky resin substance used by pitchers to improve their grip on the baseball.

More would have been made of it if he had not pitched so well after the removal of the substance.

I found it more disdainful that his antics during every camera shot were contemptuous of his fellow players as they either gave up hits or didn't make plays to his satisfaction. Call it emotions if you must, but his demeanor showed a lack of respect for his teammates. Either the camera men need to shoot another shot, or KR needs to take it inside the club house.

I dont know why people are denying the obvious. Clearly from those pictures that isn't a clump of dirt. I am a little biased being that I was raised a Cardinals fan, but comon guys that was pine tar or something of the like. I'm not denying that he pitched well, but more action should have been taken. Larussa should have handeled it better dont get me wrong, that defintaly wasn't dirt.

I think it's safe to say that KR had pine tar on his hand.

But.................

It's also safe to say that pine tar is used a lot more than the average fan would think. In fact, I would say it is common.

When the camera caught it, and when the players were letting LaRussa know about it.......I kept thinking...........Kenny better get this guy to roll over one quick or a major mess is gonna happen.

The only chance LaRussa had was to go to the mound DURING PLAY and notify the umpires. Players sit in the clubhouse and watch the same thing we are seeing. As soon as the inning was over, there was no chance Kenny wouldn't be notified by one of his teamates from upstairs.

But I can also understand LaRussa wanting to make darn sure what was going on. If he made a big deal about it only to find out it wasn't anything.............then he would have been the bad guy in the media today.

Pitchers use pine tar. That's a fact although it doesn't make it right according to the rules.

In this case, the only thing I question is why KR made it soooooo obvious.

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Originally posted by baseballmom:
Don't like that guy even a little bit! inflammed ego could use a dose of ...hemmroid medication...

Knowing him personally, I think he is a great guy.

But I guess TV and media can paint a different picture.

Pine tar has nothing to do with how well KR is pitching. It won't do anything different to a pitch. It's for a better grip and nothing more. It is weird that he needed it in almost freezing weather. It does help when your hand is very sweaty.

Ken......I played together with Kenny in 1985 when he was a young 18 year old kid. He was a great kid then and a great guy now. He's not proud of what happened last year, but don't judge him on that situation only.

OP:
You have a pm

It's truly amazing what some humidity can do. While pitching at Texas State this past weekend, it was cold, dry, and windy. I couldn't grip two of my pitches as well as I needed to. It makes that over the top humidity Texas has a little more bearable.