kid not eligible due to grades

How about an appeal to the school system/

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Originally posted by BBISME:
Since she finally agreed to medication the kids grades have skyrocketed.

But what should he do in the spring? Does this seal his fate and leave him with no hope of a future in baseball?

He should work on his grades....he is only a sophomore and has plenty of time.....his summer and fall team will provde plenty of baseball....In no way would missing one season as a sophmore "seal his fate"......

I would think this situation would be a great one for the appeals process, however if the boy's mom isn't interested in invoking (can I have four i-words in a row?) the process, not sure what options there might be. I wonder if the HS coach would be willing to do the legwork if the mom simply agreed that it was okay to pursue? This is a tough one.

It is a sad story, but if he can get his medication and grades in order, that may turn out the best thing that can happen for him in the long run.

Missing a HS season as a sophomore will not set his long term fate, not doing well in school will.

Hope the best for him.

Did this young many have an evaluation? If so, did he have a 504 plan or more importantly was he diagnosed and then have an IEP? In some states including Illinois, the young man has rights if his IEP was violated.

This is not as terrible as it might seem If this young man now realized that his grades will determine his athletic eligibility. This very well could be a good thing. Varsity careers are not made or lost on the sophomore campaign. FYI, I just had a young man enter my classroom as I started this reply. To see him made a huge smile come up on my face. I think the world of him. He wanted me to write a letter of recommendation for special scholarship monies availble for him. You see, life hit him real hard his sophomore year. I don't know how he finished it playing at the varsity level but true to his nature HE GAVE IT HELL! I'm so proud of him. He now has a scholarship to play collegiate baseball and only needs the other as a suppliment. LIFE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE. The young man from your story has a long way to go. Make it a positive experience!

BBISME, during the spring, I think it would be tough to find a good 16U team, because those guys are playing HS. This player can work on other aspects of his game. He should get to the gym and work on getting stronger and faster. Plus keep his eye out for tryouts for the good summer teams.

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He should work on his grades....he is only a sophomore and has plenty of time.....his summer and fall

Unfortunately this is a huge misconception that many players and parents fall into. Using that type of mentality can get a ton of kids into trouble. I cant tell you how many guys I recruited that "didn't take academics serious until their junior or senior season".... sorry but most likely it's too late by then. Even if a guy corrects himself the 2nd semester of his sophomore year, he has still completed almost 40% of his schooling! That's 40% of his grades that have already been turned in! A final grade is a final grade. Some places will let you retake a class or 2 but the bottom line is that habits are developed and it's hard for kids to stray from them. Make sure the instant that your child steps into a high school classroom that he realizes these grades will follow him on his official visits in college when the coaches sit down and evaluate his high school transcript. That's every grade in every class.

I'm happy that this young man has figured things out. Does he still have time to get eligible if he's good enough to play in college? Maybe and hopefully so. But it is a huge uphill battle that will be fought until his pencil drops for the last time.

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he could of easily just set his sights on JC and blown it off, but he wants to go to a four year

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JUST set his sight on a JC: guess what lots of JC kids with good grades and lots of baseball talent. No one can JUST go to a JC and play ,trust me.
Not trying to hijack thread but on my sons JC he has 3 players who came from D2, about 6-7 from D1 and my son and two others who had D1 offers.
My son and many others had very good grades and SATs.
I do commend this boy for making up his classes and taking care of it, I also commend him for wanting to go to a 4 year university.I wish him the best.
I just amazed at the misconception of JC ball esp. in the area where this boy is from. The big 8 conference is one of the best in the country.Not saying you but several posters just think oh if nothing works out i can JUST go play JC ball. Good luck on that though process.

Sounds like the young man has a good neighbor that has a good-eye looking out for him...kudos...hoepfully it will all work through this season and next year is his year!

Way to go Fan! When I read that post, I was thinking of you and your son. There are some very good ballplayers in JC and many go because of the cost, not grades. Not every good ballplayer with good grades get a D1 scholarship, too few schools for them. Of course in my son's case..........

I was not tryng to jump the poster. Just to make some of the HS parents that maybe do not get the whole situation yet. A lot of very good HS players would get redshirtedat my sons JC, heck my own son may sit this year. We will see.

CoachB25 is absolutely correct, especially here in Georgia. I think an appeal to the GAHSA woud be in order. I would recommend having his doctor write an assessment, with moms OK, to be presented at the appeals process. Also, the improvement in his grades, since being on medication, should be in his favor. Unfortunately, there are many who have this situation and the condition is not dealt with or corectly identified. Please keep us posted on the young man's progress.

Does he have an actual learning disability or some condition that prevented him from learning?

He's a sophmore, let him get his academic house in order and be ready to play next year. That's what is most important now. JMO.

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BBISME quote"
My neighbor's son is a phenominal baseball player and a sophmore in high school.

I know I would have the same thoughts and concerns as BBISME with a neighbor involved in that situation but the devils advocate asks a generalized question.

Where does a neighbor or non-related acquaintance NOT get involved in another families issues that are similar to the one mentioned here.

I have a feeling that my decision to help may result in a "get out of our family business" response. This is not intended to be a thread hijack and by no means a criticism of BBISME, rather an offshoot to the original post.

[A subliminal message] I know PIAA ump has an experience that will make it's yearly posting on this site soon, that is an exception to the above, and this is hopefully a reminder to make sure it is posted

btw- BBISME, great screen name

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Originally posted by TRhit:
How about an appeal to the school system/

That's not a good idea. Working on grades comes first. Schools a have system in place for re-instatement when grades climb back up. Asking for a waiver just because the player has some talent sends the wrong message to the kid. A sophomore in HS is hardly sealing his fate.

zombywoof

The waiver is not requested because of his baseball talent but because of the fact the school perhaps never picked up on his medical condition--now that he is on meds his grades have apparently improved tremendously.

By the way thanx for telling me I am wrong

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Missing a HS season as a sophomore will not set his long term fate, not doing well in school will.

Great call out Homerun04. He has a much better chance at success in life with a high school degree and college. As a retail manager I interview potential managers all the time. While athletics on a resume make for great conversation, I care more about academics.

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Originally posted by TRhit:
zombywoof

The waiver is not requested because of his baseball talent but because of the fact the school perhaps never picked up on his medical condition--now that he is on meds his grades have apparently improved tremendously.

By the way thanx for telling me I am wrong

But what's so different from a player who fixes his grades thru medication than the one who got a tutor to help rase his grades and become eligible to play sports again once the grades improve? Both students had academic problems and both had solutions to straighten themselves out academically. Otherwise, every flunkie could put in a waiver claiming they'll pull up their grades. All students have to raise their GPA to a certain level, so if it means they have to sit out a semester, then it is what it is.. It's simple as that.

zomby


look at it as you wish---


But dont try to tell me I am wrong---I offered an opinion as was asked for --I never said you were wrong---you can think as you wish

I'm not sure he has anything to appeal. If his mother refused to address his learning problem until now, why is it the school's responsibility? Maybe the school addressed it with the mom and she looked the other way.

Like others have said. Good for the kid turning things around now. He has plenty of time to establish himself in baseball. Especially with summer and fall teams playing such a large part of the recruiting game.

Many kids don't break onto the HS seen until junior year. Their was a kid in our area who didn't pitch until his junior year and wound up the 44th (approx) pick in the draft a couple of years ago. (he decided to go to college)

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Originally posted by TRhit:
zomby


look at it as you wish---


But dont try to tell me I am wrong---I offered an opinion as was asked for --I never said you were wrong---you can think as you wish

It's not about right or wrong. I didn't agree with your opinion, that's all. Not attempting to judge right or wrong. It's all good..Different slants on topics make for better reading and sometimes we may learn something from different POVs.

There have been times when I've changed my opinion based on something I may not have agreed on but somebody brought up an issue in a way I might not have looked at before.

zomby

"That is not a good idea" tells me your are telling me I am wrong

Did I say your were wrong in your opinion?


OH well

If the kid has a learning disability the mother should request an IEP. Once an IEP is in place the school will be able to make exceptions for his grades. For example if he fails a test he can retake it. The key is to make sure ALL his teachers attend the IEP. Good Luck!!!

Thank you everyone for your input. The mom while not opposed to appealing anything, is not up to doing it herself. The high school coach did go to the athletic board to request he be made eligible due to the circumstances. Unfortunately he was not able to get it done. Tryouts are tomorrow so I guess the kid is out of luck.