I'm pretty sure almost everyone here agrees that a) LaVar Ball is a clown and b) the NCAA is a joke.
That said, and acknowledging that there are a zillion questions to be answered about it, and that it could harm some kids chances of getting an education, I'm having a hard time understanding why this is not a good idea and why nobody has done it before.
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Lol....all the people saying it's a good thing are forgetting one huge part of it.....Lavar Ball is running it. He's already proven he's a complete tool. What parent in their right mind would let a HS senior do anything that involves him....especially if it involves a decision that could affect the kid for the rest of their life. Sorry, not seeing this happening
Buckeye 2015 posted:Lol....all the people saying it's a good thing are forgetting one huge part of it.....Lavar Ball is running it. He's already proven he's a complete tool. What parent in their right mind would let a HS senior do anything that involves him....especially if it involves a decision that could affect the kid for the rest of their life. Sorry, not seeing this happening
I don't think there will be any problem finding 80 parents of basketball playing kids that aren't in their right minds.
With the economic situation of a lot of top HS basketball prospects. I'd say if he can deliver on the 10k this league will fill up as fast as he can start it.
I see this league run by Lavar Ball the same way I saw the election. Right idea, wrong guy. A sensible parent of a one and done would rather have their kid play and be supervised by a responsible college coach. Would you want your kid getting a year of maturity under Coach K (or similar) or Lavar Ball’s League. Will Ball be able to attract quality coaches? They will have to teach basketball and growing up.
I’ll give even odds of Ball finding enough players to get the league off the ground. The issue will be how many of them are legit one and dones. Otherwise the league folds in a year or two.
The NBA only drafts 60 players. The rest would be grooming themselves for the G League or Europe. Attendance could be an issue.
His mere pittance of a salary for the Big Baller League pales in comparison to what the one & done superstars get from the big schools... This has XFL written all over it
LaVar has nothing on LaTim...
I don't draft in the TEL (Tim the Enchanter League) since only LaTim has the skills to pick best flame throwers, and only Tim can decide these things.
No one can groom themselves for the TEL and since only I can coach in the TEL, and the it does not matter since only LaTim matters in all things related to the TEL
If you would like your son to become a TEL participant with the chance to be a real flame thrower send $10,000* and an application to the TEL at:
LaTim the Enchanter
Killer Rabbit Way, The Badlands
Kingdom of the Knights who say Ni
*All deposits are non-refundable which make since only the chosen few can become a true flame throwers and the risk of loosing $10,000 is nothing compared to being a disciple of La Tim.
3and2Fastball posted:His mere pittance of a salary for the Big Baller League pales in comparison to what the one & done superstars get from the big schools... This has XFL written all over it
But the players will be able to collect endorsement monies. It may be a good idea, as the 1&done is a big joke anyway.
Like the idea because it does put some pressure on the greatest monopoly of our time (NCAA) to modernize some of it's policies. Those policies are determined by a handful of lawyers and college presidents serving their own best financial interests....so it could happen much quicker. Of course any of these future changes will be communicated by the NCAA as being in the best interest of their student-athletes and other rubbish.
The problem is Lavar Ball is involved and that will lead to the inevitable dumpster fire....foreshadowed by Coach2709. I don't see this having long-term legs but possibly short-term success if he makes the league smaller, more controllable, and gets top talent to start the league. Will Lavar make a total money grab and try to be their agents too, or will he work with these kids and their representatives. We'll see.
RJM posted:I see this league run by Lavar Ball the same way I saw the election. Right idea, wrong guy. A sensible parent of a one and done would rather have their kid play and be supervised by a responsible college coach. Would you want your kid getting a year of maturity under Coach K (or similar) or Lavar Ball’s League. Will Ball be able to attract quality coaches? They will have to teach basketball and growing up.
I’ll give even odds of Ball finding enough players to get the league off the ground. The issue will be how many of them are legit one and dones. Otherwise the league folds in a year or two.
The NBA only drafts 60 players. The rest would be grooming themselves for the G League or Europe. Attendance could be an issue.
I think bobby knight is available 
CaCO3Girl posted:RJM posted:I see this league run by Lavar Ball the same way I saw the election. Right idea, wrong guy. A sensible parent of a one and done would rather have their kid play and be supervised by a responsible college coach. Would you want your kid getting a year of maturity under Coach K (or similar) or Lavar Ball’s League. Will Ball be able to attract quality coaches? They will have to teach basketball and growing up.
I’ll give even odds of Ball finding enough players to get the league off the ground. The issue will be how many of them are legit one and dones. Otherwise the league folds in a year or two.
The NBA only drafts 60 players. The rest would be grooming themselves for the G League or Europe. Attendance could be an issue.
I think bobby knight is available
Unlike Ball I would not hesitate to let my kid play for Knight. I happen to have had the opportunity to spend some time, over multiple occasions, talking with one of Bobby's players who was on the floor and involved in the series of foul calls that lead to the chair throwing incident. In addition to being a good baseball player my son was a very good basketball player as well. He played AAU ball and one of the coach of one of the other AAU teams in the area was this player. Just like baseball, basketball can become an extended family so getting to know other coaches, players and families naturally happens. Anyway this particular player loves Bobby Knight and said he would never have wanted to play for another coach.
So the guy who can't get thru a 16U AAU summer without throwing whiny fits and pulling his team off the floor hopes to run an entire league....and have the NBA folks take him even remotely seriously? Just can't see it
I'd love to see Rich Paul steal this idea and run with it.
And his sons are not participating.
joes87 posted:CaCO3Girl posted:RJM posted:I see this league run by Lavar Ball the same way I saw the election. Right idea, wrong guy. A sensible parent of a one and done would rather have their kid play and be supervised by a responsible college coach. Would you want your kid getting a year of maturity under Coach K (or similar) or Lavar Ball’s League. Will Ball be able to attract quality coaches? They will have to teach basketball and growing up.
I’ll give even odds of Ball finding enough players to get the league off the ground. The issue will be how many of them are legit one and dones. Otherwise the league folds in a year or two.
The NBA only drafts 60 players. The rest would be grooming themselves for the G League or Europe. Attendance could be an issue.
I think bobby knight is available
Unlike Ball I would not hesitate to let my kid play for Knight. I happen to have had the opportunity to spend some time, over multiple occasions, talking with one of Bobby's players who was on the floor and involved in the series of foul calls that lead to the chair throwing incident. In addition to being a good baseball player my son was a very good basketball player as well. He played AAU ball and one of the coach of one of the other AAU teams in the area was this player. Just like baseball, basketball can become an extended family so getting to know other coaches, players and families naturally happens. Anyway this particular player loves Bobby Knight and said he would never have wanted to play for another coach.
Agree with this 100%. Its easy to pile on when you don't know the whole story. For every bad incident that Knight was involved with (which were all highly publicized) there were hundreds of good things he did which were not publicized at all. And that's how he wanted it. But he did anything and everything to help his players be successful in life after they were done playing for him. A number of years back there was a great article in Sports Illustrated about Knight. Most people wouldn't consider him a role model, but his players that had the discipline, respect, and the moral fiber to play for him sure did. That was true in his years up to his departure from Indiana for sure. Like lots of us older guys, he had trouble adjusting to younger generations full of self-entitled, disrespectful kids with questionable work ethic - and helicopter parents.
Buckeye 2015 posted:So the guy who can't get thru a 16U AAU summer without throwing whiny fits and pulling his team off the floor hopes to run an entire league....and have the NBA folks take him even remotely seriously? Just can't see it
And his 16 year old out of high school...
CaCO3Girl posted:RJM posted:I see this league run by Lavar Ball the same way I saw the election. Right idea, wrong guy. A sensible parent of a one and done would rather have their kid play and be supervised by a responsible college coach. Would you want your kid getting a year of maturity under Coach K (or similar) or Lavar Ball’s League. Will Ball be able to attract quality coaches? They will have to teach basketball and growing up.
I’ll give even odds of Ball finding enough players to get the league off the ground. The issue will be how many of them are legit one and dones. Otherwise the league folds in a year or two.
The NBA only drafts 60 players. The rest would be grooming themselves for the G League or Europe. Attendance could be an issue.
I think bobby knight is available
I wouldn’t hesitate one second to let my kid play for Bob Knight. I would know my son will be in class and graduate on time. I would know in four years he would be a mature 22yo.
Knight made SportCenter at Texas Tech for grabbing a player by the jersey and getting in his face. My (12yo at the time) son commented the player deserved the treatment. He said the player disrespected Knight by not looking him in the eyes while Knight was talking to him. No coach has ever grabbed my son. But my son got it at 12yo about eye to eye contact when a coach is talking to you.
For a one and done the things I like about Knight wouldn’t apply. An arrogant stud might think to himself about Knight, “I don’t need this ****.”
A writer for NESN said Lavar’s league won’t work because the top players want one shot at March Madness. It’s that big of a deal even to one and done players. He added one and done players are currently eligible to play in the G League and choose to play college ball for a year.
The choice is to play in college in front of 15-18,000 screaming fans or in front of 100 fans where you can hear their clapping echo off the ceiling.
RJM posted:A writer for NESN said Lavar’s league won’t work because the top players want one shot at March Madness. It’s that big of a deal even to one and done players.
That's a great point. If you're good enough that you know you're a one and done, you're likely going to a top level college program that will make a deep run in March. Compare that to making some $$$ playing in front of a couple hundred people and it's not likely that Lavar is gonna draw a lot of guys away from the top college programs
I wonder how many players get to college basketball to discover they’re not one and done. That an extra year or two of college might help.
Jabari Bird played at Cal. In high school he was a McDonald’s All American, a five star recruit and ranked as the 20th best prospect. After a year in the PAC 12 he realized he wasn’t a one and done player. He decided to stay another year and develop his game. He ended up staying four years and graduating. He was drafted in the second round by the Celtics. Second round picks don’t get guaranteed multi million dollar contracts.
Bird is playing for the Maine Red Claws in the G League this year. When someone on the Celtics gets dinged he’s called up. The Celtics expect him to improve his offense in the G League and make the Celtics full time next year. If it doesn’t work out he has his degree.
Yeah, How many players will this attract who think there 'one and done" but in reality they are not. Plus How many HS students will look at this as the way to the NBA, and not worry about grades.
Buckeye 2015 posted:RJM posted:A writer for NESN said Lavar’s league won’t work because the top players want one shot at March Madness. It’s that big of a deal even to one and done players.
That's a great point. If you're good enough that you know you're a one and done, you're likely going to a top level college program that will make a deep run in March. Compare that to making some $$$ playing in front of a couple hundred people and it's not likely that Lavar is gonna draw a lot of guys away from the top college programs
I agree. March Madness is like our kids wanting to play in Omaha.
Besides, the man is an ass.
In the beginning I thought Lavar was a dumb as a fox. He was drawing millions of dollars of free publicity to the Big Baller Brand. I figured if he eventually lowered the price of the sneakers to $200 with one son an NBA star (Lonzo in two years) and a college star (LaMelo in two years) the brand would be on its way. LiAngelo was considered a mid major college prospect at best.
But then the guy went off the hinges. Everything he has said since LiAngelo got arrested has been off the wall. Saying it was no big deal to get arrested in China. While I believe Ball knew he was wrong dissing Trump he had a 50/50 chance of drawing positive feedback. Sending the two younger ones to Lithuania is insane. This Junior League with him in charge is insane. Established NBA players are now approaching Lonzo and telling him it’s time to be his own man. Magic doesn’t allow the press near the family section (Lavar) ar Lakers games.
LiMelo was considered a five star major college prospect. He may have been a legit one and done, future first round pick. I’m guessing he will be fortunate to be a second round pick with the Lavar Development Method.
TimtheEnchanter posted:LaVar has nothing on LaTim...
I don't draft in the TEL (Tim the Enchanter League) since only LaTim has the skills to pick best flame throwers, and only Tim can decide these things.
No one can groom themselves for the TEL and since only I can coach in the TEL, and the it does not matter since only LaTim matters in all things related to the TEL
If you would like your son to become a TEL participant with the chance to be a real flame thrower send $10,000* and an application to the TEL at:
LaTim the Enchanter
Killer Rabbit Way, The Badlands
Kingdom of the Knights who say Ni
*All deposits are non-refundable which make since only the chosen few can become a true flame throwers and the risk of loosing $10,000 is nothing compared to being a disciple of La Tim.
You have to respect any post that includes two Monty Python & The Holy Grail references.
the man is an ass, the league fails miserably if it even gets off the ground...
I would have been fine with my son playing for Bobby Knight but I also would have been thrilled for him to play for Joe Paterno.
