legal or deception???

I don't see where the ball ever went dead. Seems to me both runs should have scored.

Im not following totally.....are you asking if its legal to run?....if there is any question, especially with 2-2 and 2 outs, you are darn tooting its legal to run...you let the umpire decide if it was a swing/strike......

Each player from each team is equally expected to know the situation and act accordngly.....2 outs, the catcher throws to 1st....Im not following here after that...was it a bad throw?...he didnt get the putout?

all in all legal, but would be nice to have the additional info...

piaa_ump,
The way I read the OP, the batter checked his swing on a 2-2 count, and it was ruled "no swing".

So there is no putout at 1st, because the count is now 3-2.

Of course it is legal for a batter to run to first with 2 outs and a 2 strike count if there is any question of whether it is a checked swing.

It seems to me that the umpire erred in declaring a dead ball.

That's all the info the article had. I assumed there was a bad throw, muffed catch etc at first to allow a run to scored from 2nd.
The article did say that when challenged, the umpire said it was 'defensive deception'and therefore a dead ball.
The reporter was interviewing the "offensive" coach not the umpire.

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
It seems to me that the umpire erred in declaring a dead ball.

I'm going to bet than an umpire that makes a call like this actually called "dead ball."

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Originally posted by wert:
The article did say that when challenged, the umpire said it was 'defensive deception'and therefore a dead ball.

Defensive deception, eh? Can't find the phrase in any of my rule books.

What the devil did the defense do to be deceptive? It's nothing but if they were going to pull a stupid thing likt that out it's offensive deception, they were the ones running on a 2-2 count.
All that said, no one did anything wrong except the umpires, if the story is being relayed correctly. Coaches and reporters don't always get it right.