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Does any know where I can get a list of U2 responsibilities. Some of our umpires in my assoc seem to think U1 has this & that & U2 has this & that?
In other words, if U1 doesn't say something (about a rule violation, ie dugout, buckets, etc), then U2 sure is heck isn't.
I'd like to remind all of our umpires that you work as team out there.
I know this is in the umpires manual, but is it somewhere on-line, so I don't have to type the whole thing out?
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I assume when you say U1 and U2 you mean PU and BU. I further assume that you are asking about concurrent jurisdiction as apposed to mechanics and coverages.
With those assumptions in place it would be easier to say what isn't concurrent. The PU has balls and strikes, putting the ball in play, handles the line-ups and a couple of other small things that are specific to the plate. Bus have safes and outs at their bases and in their areas of coverages. Everything else is concurrent. I'm sure I'm missing some things, others will chime in, but as far as handling coaches and players out of the dugout the BU certainly has as much jurisdiction as the PU.
If I am in A I leave third base alone but if I am in B or C then I will say something to either dugout.
If I haven't answered your question then repost. If you want a way to post anything out of rule nine then go to the MLB site and cut and paste from the OBR rulebook.
While we're on the subject (kind of), here's my question: What can you tell me or list out about responsibilities on various coverages/plays?

The two I'm most curious about are fly ball/tag situations, who has tag who has catch, and double play balls, who follows throw who has interference, etc. I always get different answers from different umpires in our chapter.

Any other situations with clear cut responsibilities for each umpire I'd love to hear.

I know this is a verrrry broad question so any info is appreciated.
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Originally posted by ironhorse:
While we're on the subject (kind of), here's my question: What can you tell me or list out about responsibilities on various coverages/plays?

The two I'm most curious about are fly ball/tag situations, who has tag who has catch, and double play balls, who follows throw who has interference, etc. I always get different answers from different umpires in our chapter.

Any other situations with clear cut responsibilities for each umpire I'd love to hear.

I know this is a verrrry broad question so any info is appreciated.


For the very vague queston regarding fly balls to unknwn parts with unknown runners, if any, on base, try this

Double play ball, assuming R1 only, BU the plays at both second and first. Both umpires may rule on obstruction or interference, but they may decide in pregame who is primary for which, or that one will rely on the other for either or both obs/int.
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Originally posted by Jimmy03:

For the very vague queston regarding fly balls to unknwn parts with unknown runners, if any, on base, try this

I know it's not specific, but can you elaborate at all on how you handle it? I've heard some say they handle tags at certain bases, others say they use basically a "cone" that extends thru the CF gaps to determine catch responsibility, etc. I figure there has to be a generally accepted method that can be summed up without too much detail.
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Originally posted by ironhorse:
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Originally posted by Jimmy03:

For the very vague queston regarding fly balls to unknwn parts with unknown runners, if any, on base, try this

I know it's not specific, but can you elaborate at all on how you handle it? I've heard some say they handle tags at certain bases, others say they use basically a "cone" that extends thru the CF gaps to determine catch responsibility, etc. I figure there has to be a generally accepted method that can be summed up without too much detail.


If you want an accurate response, you are incorrect.

Fly ball coverage and subsequent touch/tags can rely on where the fly ball goes, number of outs and where, if any, runners are at the time of pitch. Anything can happen from an infield fly rule being called to ground rule double.

One example that pertains to the content of your post: There is no cone with no runners on.

This is like me asking a coach what he wants a batter to do with the next pitch without specifying the count, the outs, runners, if any, the score and the inning.

If someone else has the time and inclination to cover here what takes pages and pages in the PBUC Two Umpire System, let them have at it. Otherwise, if you have a specific situation, describe it.
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