Tonight's game GA vs CA
Where was the LL "must" slide rule on the wild pitch play at the plate????? Runner should have been called out for not sliding?
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No such rule. Avoid collision or similar.
Flush it!
My gripe list.
#1.Curve ball after curve ball after curve ball.
#2.Pitchers and basepath distances too short for the age. The boys are moving to the big field this fall.
#3.No leads! No balks!I guess this should have been two
#4.I thought LL was all about the kids, but they pushed the series back for TV when most kids are starting school?
#5. Curve ball after curve after curve ball.
I'll give LL credit for the pitch count rule though, it limits the amount of curve balls
What a great game tonight! GA or CA... it's been a good one!!
Back and forth, back and forth, with California finally winning 11-10. Should be a good rematch against San Antonio on Saturday!
It was a great game to watch! I love knowing the whole country is tuning in to watch youth baseball, which has been my passion for years. I do agree with 3-up, there is much that could be improved upon. And not meaning to bring up a whole 'nother arguement, as there is an recent thread that discusses it at length, but this is far from the best baseball that is played at that age. I know LL is the founding father, and I understand the concept that these are neighborhood kids and not loaded with players from different states, like travel ball teams can do. But every time I hear the announcers allude that these kids are the best in the world, I just have to shake my head.
3up-3down,
I think another one for your list would be no dropped third strike rule.
I remember at that age and younger in AAU, the trouble infidel_son would have when he would zoom one in only to have it get past the catcher when the batter missed it. Now there was a runner on first (or worse) leading and trying to steal the next base. That probably bothered me more than my son, but I think it helped make him a better pitcher in the long run.
I think another one for your list would be no dropped third strike rule.
I remember at that age and younger in AAU, the trouble infidel_son would have when he would zoom one in only to have it get past the catcher when the batter missed it. Now there was a runner on first (or worse) leading and trying to steal the next base. That probably bothered me more than my son, but I think it helped make him a better pitcher in the long run.
quote:Originally posted by infidel_08:
3up-3down,
I think another one for your list would be no dropped third strike rule.
I remember at that age and younger in AAU, the trouble infidel_son would have when he would zoom one in only to have it get past the catcher when the batter missed it. Now there was a runner on first (or worse) leading and trying to steal the next base. That probably bothered me more than my son, but I think it helped make him a better pitcher in the long run.
I agree with those thoughts. My son played Pony when young. Kids that age can handle the concept of running on a dropped third strike. I have never understood why some sanctions don't include it in their rules.
I think the combination of rules they have makes for some pretty entertaining youth baseball. Granted, I wouldn't like it in travel play because I want travel play to be as much like HS ball as possible.
But, the games I've seen in the last two weeks on ESPN have been very entertaining.
Some of my observations:
- 12 year olds throwing in the mid 70's. Wow!
- lots of double plays (mostly due to no lead-offs, but shortened base path means the execution of the play have to be perfect.)
- Surprised by the number of curve balls these 12 year olds are throwing.
- I like the fact that the coaches are not sitting on a bucket on the field and are kept in the dug out.
- Surprised by the size of some of these kids.
- Umps seem to consistently give the outside pitch in favor of the pitcher.
- They don't charge admission to the games!!! Love the crowds and the cheering.
- I miss Erin Andrews...She covered Ricco's role last year.
- No time limits. All games are 6 innings. (So, no butt-hole coaches playing the clock and stalling to win a game.)
- My kids have been in school for 3 weeks. These kids must be missing a lot of school...
- Why isn't Oral H. giving as many pitching secrets and tips out this year between innings??? Does he have a book or DVD coming out?
All in all, LLWS has a nice nitch.
But, the games I've seen in the last two weeks on ESPN have been very entertaining.
Some of my observations:
- 12 year olds throwing in the mid 70's. Wow!
- lots of double plays (mostly due to no lead-offs, but shortened base path means the execution of the play have to be perfect.)
- Surprised by the number of curve balls these 12 year olds are throwing.
- I like the fact that the coaches are not sitting on a bucket on the field and are kept in the dug out.
- Surprised by the size of some of these kids.
- Umps seem to consistently give the outside pitch in favor of the pitcher.
- They don't charge admission to the games!!! Love the crowds and the cheering.
- I miss Erin Andrews...She covered Ricco's role last year.
- No time limits. All games are 6 innings. (So, no butt-hole coaches playing the clock and stalling to win a game.)
- My kids have been in school for 3 weeks. These kids must be missing a lot of school...
- Why isn't Oral H. giving as many pitching secrets and tips out this year between innings??? Does he have a book or DVD coming out?
All in all, LLWS has a nice nitch.
quote:My kids have been in school for 3 weeks. These kids must be missing a lot of school...
For the San Antonio team at least, it's not a big problem. School started on Monday of this week.
Nothing against Little League But.......There are a tremendous amount of Club Players on all of these teams in the LLWS. Go to USSSA, plug in a name for find an athlete....Look up rosters.....
Shhhhhh, it's LL's big secret. They should come clean and mention most of these players are year round players that play this well mainly due to their club/travel team and tourney experience.Not the typcial 8 week - 16 game season you get in your neighborhood where most players are picking up their gloves in March and putting them back down in June.
I think its great to get the exposure and how awesome is it to be playing on a big stage! But its kinda stacked and way tooooooo easy.
When you have very talented and seasoned kids, that play 85% of their year round season in club, they should be playing on their level, not on the smaller 46/60 fields with no leads, no balks, etc....Of course they are going to stand out and look great! Almost kinda defeats the purpose of LL. I'd like to see the regular LL teams that are typical and play, not the super stacked teams like CA that have studs from the SD Stars program.
There are stages for these elite players, USSSA Florida WS, Cooperstown, and other sanctioned national tournaments.....
In looking back, I'm glad my kid played LL, but even more happier that he played club and did play at the venues I mentioned above....When he stood out, he stood out among the best and that's very satisfying.....
Using polished 13 year olds (I know who are league age 12) puts a bad taste in my mouth. Alot their homeruns would be flyouts on the 300' fields in Pony and some Cal Ripken fields. Most of the AZ fields are multi-use, and these bombs would be automatic outs.
Glad to see that the $26 reg fees from all around the country goes to LL HQ so they can fund this event - Isn't it time to acknowledge that 90% of these players are year round club ballers?
Funny how there is still negative comments about club from the broadcasters, and every year this fans the argument that Recreational players are on the same level of Club ballers and they use the LLWS as the basis of their argument....
Thanks LL, for giving the Club Ballers a place to look even better, at least give club side some credit!!!
Shhhhhh, it's LL's big secret. They should come clean and mention most of these players are year round players that play this well mainly due to their club/travel team and tourney experience.Not the typcial 8 week - 16 game season you get in your neighborhood where most players are picking up their gloves in March and putting them back down in June.
I think its great to get the exposure and how awesome is it to be playing on a big stage! But its kinda stacked and way tooooooo easy.
When you have very talented and seasoned kids, that play 85% of their year round season in club, they should be playing on their level, not on the smaller 46/60 fields with no leads, no balks, etc....Of course they are going to stand out and look great! Almost kinda defeats the purpose of LL. I'd like to see the regular LL teams that are typical and play, not the super stacked teams like CA that have studs from the SD Stars program.
There are stages for these elite players, USSSA Florida WS, Cooperstown, and other sanctioned national tournaments.....
In looking back, I'm glad my kid played LL, but even more happier that he played club and did play at the venues I mentioned above....When he stood out, he stood out among the best and that's very satisfying.....
Using polished 13 year olds (I know who are league age 12) puts a bad taste in my mouth. Alot their homeruns would be flyouts on the 300' fields in Pony and some Cal Ripken fields. Most of the AZ fields are multi-use, and these bombs would be automatic outs.
Glad to see that the $26 reg fees from all around the country goes to LL HQ so they can fund this event - Isn't it time to acknowledge that 90% of these players are year round club ballers?
Funny how there is still negative comments about club from the broadcasters, and every year this fans the argument that Recreational players are on the same level of Club ballers and they use the LLWS as the basis of their argument....
Thanks LL, for giving the Club Ballers a place to look even better, at least give club side some credit!!!
I do wish they would at the very least, move the fences to 250'.
It would be a major dig job to dig back another 25 feet at Lamade. Also it might make the hill to steep to sit and slide on. The hill is part of the LL aura. I don't think there's room in right field to go back another 25 feet on the other field without reconstructing access (fire trucks) to Lamade, the concessions and all the other facilities.quote:Originally posted by Coach From The Southeast:
I do wish they would at the very least, move the fences to 250'.
It would be easier to take the 12yo's out of LL and start a 12/13 division on a 50/70 or 54/80 field. A lot of 13yo's struggle on the 60/90 field. Who knows when, but I can see this coming someday when LL has to adapt to the marketplace.
LL & LLWS does have its own special place in baseball, but I have to agree the field limits, rules limitations, etc. have spoiled it a little for me. I guess its unfair to compare this to U-trip, Triple Crown, or Super Series, but its hard not too.
No doubt, LL limits player development... We moved to 54/80 at 10 and 60/90 at age 14. I guess I missed out on 100(+) 205 footers in those 4 years, but it was alot more fun to see them at 250 and 300ft. I know some of our Lubbock boys from the 2007 LLWS had a rude awakening when they were first on 60/90's, it was brutal!
GED10DaD
No doubt, LL limits player development... We moved to 54/80 at 10 and 60/90 at age 14. I guess I missed out on 100(+) 205 footers in those 4 years, but it was alot more fun to see them at 250 and 300ft. I know some of our Lubbock boys from the 2007 LLWS had a rude awakening when they were first on 60/90's, it was brutal!
quote:Originally posted by RJM:quote:Originally posted by Coach From The Southeast:
I do wish they would at the very least, move the fences to 250'.
It would be a major dig job to dig back another 25 feet at Lamade. Also it might make the hill to steep to sit and slide on. The hill is part of the LL aura. I don't think there's room in right field to go back another 25 feet on the other field without reconstructing access (fire trucks) to Lamade, the concessions and all the other facilities.
It would be easier to take the 12yo's out of LL and start a 12/13 division on a 50/70 or 54/80 field. A lot of 13yo's struggle on the 60/90 field. Who knows when, but I can see this coming someday when LL has to adapt to the marketplace.
There's always a way of doing what you wanna do in terms of reconfigure a baseball field. If that means bring more dirt in to push the hill back or to create new entrances for medical purposes. It CAN be done. The LL has the money to do it if they really wanted too.
I just looked on google earth and they would have plenty of room to move Lamade Stadium back just 25 feet. Beyond that hill is a parking lot. The only "minor" problem would be the rightfield of Volunteer Stadium, and all you would have to do is curve the access road a little bit and that wouldn't be a problem cause there's nothing on the other side of that road.
An as far as the concession stand and other facilities, just carry the road over about 15 to 20 feet east of them buildings. There's nothing on the other side of them roads.
That game was amazing. Best LL game I've ever seen.
If you will look, most of those guys throwing 75 are actually 13. I mean, last night's game had a kid who is 5'11", 226 lbs. and is very much 13 years old.
I mentioned this in another thread, but Williamsport's decision to move back the aging date to May 1 was a serious error in judgment. And while USA Baseball may have asked for it as a step towards adopting the international standard (they ultimately want to get the date to Jan. 1), Williamsport was not required to go along and should not have gone along. Some of these kids are just too old, too far into puberty, and too darned big to be playing on that diamond -- PERIOD. The California team has a 6'1" first baseman, and last night he hit a pop up that went out. It's ridiculous.
Whenever LL does move its aging date to Jan. 1, I hope they at least cap the majors division at age 11 and adjust the higher age divisions accordingly. There is every reason to do this, and no reason not to do it.
They can brag about safety all they want. When a MAN is throwing 75 mph at a KID from 46 feet away, and when a MAN is swinging a metal bat only 46-60 feet away from several CHILD players, you're making a mockery of any concerns about safety. Does someone have to die on national TV before we wake up?
I mentioned this in another thread, but Williamsport's decision to move back the aging date to May 1 was a serious error in judgment. And while USA Baseball may have asked for it as a step towards adopting the international standard (they ultimately want to get the date to Jan. 1), Williamsport was not required to go along and should not have gone along. Some of these kids are just too old, too far into puberty, and too darned big to be playing on that diamond -- PERIOD. The California team has a 6'1" first baseman, and last night he hit a pop up that went out. It's ridiculous.
Whenever LL does move its aging date to Jan. 1, I hope they at least cap the majors division at age 11 and adjust the higher age divisions accordingly. There is every reason to do this, and no reason not to do it.
They can brag about safety all they want. When a MAN is throwing 75 mph at a KID from 46 feet away, and when a MAN is swinging a metal bat only 46-60 feet away from several CHILD players, you're making a mockery of any concerns about safety. Does someone have to die on national TV before we wake up?
And speaking of safety rules:
What happened to the "must slide" rule on that play at home that ended up with 2 runs coming in and a player being knocked out of the game by injury?
Six umpires on the field, and not one of them saw it?
What happened to the "must slide" rule on that play at home that ended up with 2 runs coming in and a player being knocked out of the game by injury?
Six umpires on the field, and not one of them saw it?
There is not a must slide rule. I didn't see the play. Did the player in question try to avoid the tag even though they didn't slide?
From Little League's "Make the Right Call"
quote:There is no "must slide rule." The rule is, "slide or attempt to get around." The key in this situation is "fielder has the ball and is waiting to make a tag." If the fielder (any fielder, not just the catcher) does not have the ball, and there is a collision, you CANNOT call the runner out. However, if the umpire determines that the runner deliberately attempted to injure the fielder, the umpire could eject the runner for unsportsmanlike conduct.
From Little League's "Make the Right Call"
wasn't there a rule, can't block a base without the ball? never got that one. but the pitcher didn't have the ball, if that makes a difference.
It's been some years since I left LL behind. Has that rule been changed? Because the rule used to be much more stringent in requiring sliding, and players in our league were regularly called out on plays not nearly as close as this one was.
Rule has been in place for a long time. Just a lot of umpires that misinterpret or just plain don't know the rule.
I enjoy watching the LLWS as much as anyone. Its fun. These kids do a great job under all that pressure and you can't help but be drawn into it. The double plays on the small field are incredible!
There are some issues with the whole process, however.
I knew several parents from the Chandler team that went a few years ago. School starts in late July in Chandler, so those kids missed almost a month of school. They do some year round type thing in that district. Also, the regional was in San Bernadino. Once they won the regional, LL loaded both teams (two regionals played there) on a plane and fly everyone to the tournament. Several parents couldn't afford to miss their 3rd or 4th week of work, so had to fly home, unfortunately the car was still in San Bernadino so had to be retrieved later... The whole process creates some logistical nightmares. It's also hard for the common guy to basically leave home, work, the other kids, etc for a MONTH... I couldn't do it.
LLWS is a great thing, but it has some real challenges.
Besides, you have to move up the road to Cooperstown to see the best 12U baseball played during the summer...
My son didn't play his 12U season as we went with full time club ball. I got sick of watching called third strikes on pitches a foot outside, which seems to be the LL norm. We did go to Cooperstown and had a great time.
The more serious issue I have with LL, is that the roll back and field size create some safety issues (IMHO) during league play.
You can have a 6'1" 200' kid capable of hitting a ball 300' off a tee and some 10U kid who hasn't played much, has marginal skills and attention span playing 3rd base 40' away "watching for the bunt" (because coaches are of marginal wit). What happens when the line drive down the line hits that kid in the head? or hits the pitcher in the face coming back up the middle?
In my son's 12U season, there was another kid in the league who was that big and didn't play. That was part of the parent's rationale. Besides, why throw 75mph fastballs past 10U's from 46' when you can play 12U and up in 13U tournaments from 50' and 54' and actually learn to pitch\hit?
A 75 mph FB with a -10 bat from 46' is closer to softball than baseball.
But it IS fun to watch...
There are some issues with the whole process, however.
I knew several parents from the Chandler team that went a few years ago. School starts in late July in Chandler, so those kids missed almost a month of school. They do some year round type thing in that district. Also, the regional was in San Bernadino. Once they won the regional, LL loaded both teams (two regionals played there) on a plane and fly everyone to the tournament. Several parents couldn't afford to miss their 3rd or 4th week of work, so had to fly home, unfortunately the car was still in San Bernadino so had to be retrieved later... The whole process creates some logistical nightmares. It's also hard for the common guy to basically leave home, work, the other kids, etc for a MONTH... I couldn't do it.
LLWS is a great thing, but it has some real challenges.
Besides, you have to move up the road to Cooperstown to see the best 12U baseball played during the summer...
My son didn't play his 12U season as we went with full time club ball. I got sick of watching called third strikes on pitches a foot outside, which seems to be the LL norm. We did go to Cooperstown and had a great time.
The more serious issue I have with LL, is that the roll back and field size create some safety issues (IMHO) during league play.
You can have a 6'1" 200' kid capable of hitting a ball 300' off a tee and some 10U kid who hasn't played much, has marginal skills and attention span playing 3rd base 40' away "watching for the bunt" (because coaches are of marginal wit). What happens when the line drive down the line hits that kid in the head? or hits the pitcher in the face coming back up the middle?
In my son's 12U season, there was another kid in the league who was that big and didn't play. That was part of the parent's rationale. Besides, why throw 75mph fastballs past 10U's from 46' when you can play 12U and up in 13U tournaments from 50' and 54' and actually learn to pitch\hit?
A 75 mph FB with a -10 bat from 46' is closer to softball than baseball.
But it IS fun to watch...
quote:But it IS fun to watch...
Absolutely. And it does put a smile on the faces of folks who don't have much to smile about. Case in point: here's a recent response to a blog post by McAllister Park coach Lee Willis:
"Hey Lee... Dusty Davis here. I was lying in a hospital bed here in El Paso awaiting tests to see if I was going to have my 2nd open heart surgery in 2 yrs when I caught ya'lls game where Wyatt hit the home run... I can imagine the emotion the two of you shared that night... It was all over both of your faces we saw on a pic on yahoo.sports.uk. Even though the official scorebook will not reflect Wyatt's home run as the winning hit... any true baseball fan knows it was! Taking a fledgling 1 run lead to a confident 3 run lead... makes all the difference... Anyway, congrats to you and Wyatt and the rest of the team..."
Btw, here's the photo that put a smile on Dusty Davis' face:
And a video of the play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzne5DviGx0
infield08
that last post is what baseball SHOULD be about, lifting spirits. my community sent a team to the LLWS a few years ago, it can/should really be a community event.
go texas
that last post is what baseball SHOULD be about, lifting spirits. my community sent a team to the LLWS a few years ago, it can/should really be a community event.
go texas
Most people in the community couldn't tell you what travel team my son plays for. But they know he plays for the high school. When he was twelve they knew he played for a championship LL all-star team. He didn't pay for ice creams at DQ for a month. It got to the point I think the all-star boys were heading to DQ just to see who would treat them.quote:a community event.
12U travel is better baseball. Ripken is less restrictive in running a program. But if a LL all-star team makes a run, LL still has the aura. It's a great experience. Sometimes those who haven't been involved can't understand. The group of parents were much tighter than any travel team I've been involved. There are still solid friendships from four years ago based on being together at games for only five weeks.
quote:Most people in the community couldn't tell you what travel team my son plays for. But they know he plays for the high school. When he was twelve they knew he played for a championship LL all-star team. He didn't pay for ice creams at DQ for a month. It got to the point I think the all-star boys were heading to DQ just to see who would treat them.
12U travel is better baseball. Ripken is less restrictive in running a program. But if a LL all-star team makes a run, LL still has the aura. It's a great experience. Sometimes those who haven't been involved can't understand. The group of parents were much tighter than any travel team I've been involved. There are still solid friendships from four years ago based on being together at games for only five weeks.
Excellent post, RJM. I can certainly relate.
My son last played for McAllister Park Little League in 2004 and his All Star team made the state tourney that year. The bond between players, parents, and coaches was just incredible, and five years later many of us are still good friends despite the fact that our boys scattered to various high schools around the city. When McAllister Park made the LLWS this year, folks from that team rallied behind the 12-year-olds and one of the parents, a manager of Domino's Pizza whose son now plays for a JUCO, donated dozens of pizzas to one of the team's fundraisers. I haven't seen my city so excited since the Spurs made the NBA Finals. Photos and articles about the team's success are on the front page almost every day. The mayor is arranging a welcome-home celebration at the airport on Monday night and there is talk of a river parade on the San Antonio Riverwalk to honor the players. As wonderful as travel ball is, the community support is just not the same.
Btw, those free DQ treats must have tasted mighty good!
I think the best way to describe Little League baseball is, "It is was it is".
Watching these games, two things bother me:
1) Screaming and chanting parents acting like idiots.
2) Players "pimping" 200 foot home runs.
This behavior runs completely counter to the "good sportsmanship" that LL and the ESPN/ABC broadcasters like to brag about.
1) Screaming and chanting parents acting like idiots.
2) Players "pimping" 200 foot home runs.
This behavior runs completely counter to the "good sportsmanship" that LL and the ESPN/ABC broadcasters like to brag about.
quote:Originally posted by Strike 3:
I think the best way to describe Little League baseball is, "It is was it is".
Yes it is...
Hopefully enough parents\kids realize there is more & better and just because you were the six hole hitter on your LL team, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be the six hole hitter on your Jr high and HS team without doing... MORE... A lot more...
Just like being the six hole hitter on a 12U travel team doesn't mean you'll be the six hole hitter for the high school team without doing a lot more.quote:Originally posted by JMoff:quote:Originally posted by Strike 3:
I think the best way to describe Little League baseball is, "It is was it is".
Yes it is...
Hopefully enough parents\kids realize there is more & better and just because you were the six hole hitter on your LL team, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be the six hole hitter on your Jr high and HS team without doing... MORE... A lot more...
I agree RJM.
We all have our opinion about the LLWS. Talent level, small fields, umpires, 13 year olds playing. But the bottom line is just about every baseball fan in North America is watching.
Mission accomplished for Little League, Inc.
They must be doing something right.
We all have our opinion about the LLWS. Talent level, small fields, umpires, 13 year olds playing. But the bottom line is just about every baseball fan in North America is watching.
Mission accomplished for Little League, Inc.
They must be doing something right.
Yup...
LL is on national TV and Cooperstown has a small number of fields on webcast. They must be doing something right.
Every year a great group will end up in the same LL and generate a great All Star Team and win it all. They'll have a 6'2" 210+ pounder batting 3 or 4 and (at least now a days with the pitch count limits) 6 pitchers throwing strikes, throwing hard and changing speeds.
We'll watch, because we all remember playing All Stars when WE were 12, its all we had. Will our kids be watching in 15 years, since some of them didn't experience the same thing??? I wonder...
LL is on national TV and Cooperstown has a small number of fields on webcast. They must be doing something right.
Every year a great group will end up in the same LL and generate a great All Star Team and win it all. They'll have a 6'2" 210+ pounder batting 3 or 4 and (at least now a days with the pitch count limits) 6 pitchers throwing strikes, throwing hard and changing speeds.
We'll watch, because we all remember playing All Stars when WE were 12, its all we had. Will our kids be watching in 15 years, since some of them didn't experience the same thing??? I wonder...
I totally agree with aligning the LL league age with international rules.... but
It is only fair to slide back the fence when you slide back the league age.
I love this year's llws but "the bigger the kids the farther the fence".
play fair
It is only fair to slide back the fence when you slide back the league age.
I love this year's llws but "the bigger the kids the farther the fence".
play fair
quote:Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
If you will look, most of those guys throwing 75 are actually 13. I mean, last night's game had a kid who is 5'11", 226 lbs. and is very much 13 years old.
I mentioned this in another thread, but Williamsport's decision to move back the aging date to May 1 was a serious error in judgment. And while USA Baseball may have asked for it as a step towards adopting the international standard (they ultimately want to get the date to Jan. 1), Williamsport was not required to go along and should not have gone along. Some of these kids are just too old, too far into puberty, and too darned big to be playing on that diamond -- PERIOD. The California team has a 6'1" first baseman, and last night he hit a pop up that went out. It's ridiculous.
Whenever LL does move its aging date to Jan. 1, I hope they at least cap the majors division at age 11 and adjust the higher age divisions accordingly. There is every reason to do this, and no reason not to do it.
They can brag about safety all they want. When a MAN is throwing 75 mph at a KID from 46 feet away, and when a MAN is swinging a metal bat only 46-60 feet away from several CHILD players, you're making a mockery of any concerns about safety. Does someone have to die on national TV before we wake up?
Before the age change there were 13 year olds on the field. The age cut off was July 31st, so there were 13 year olds in the LL WS before the rule change. Since the rule revision 4 years ago, the eldest kids can be up to 3 months older, not a year older. Remember the youngest are also 3 months older. The difference is not that much.
MTS
You are right, but I think Milo makes some valid points.....I think LL profess safety safety safety but here are some changes that should be made if they are truly concerned about safety. Granted some of them might be challenging for their local leagues....like changing the pitching distances and base distances I agree with Milo that things need to change
You are right, but I think Milo makes some valid points.....I think LL profess safety safety safety but here are some changes that should be made if they are truly concerned about safety. Granted some of them might be challenging for their local leagues....like changing the pitching distances and base distances I agree with Milo that things need to change