Well, if academics are a priority over baseball that's another issue. JUCO to D1 or D2 is as common as a house fly. JUCO to D3 could be more problematic. Again ask the JUCO coaches, I will say that make sure you do not take too many classes in HS and make sure you get an associates degree from the JUCO. that will make transferring to a 4 year school easier. During the first semester of his second year in JUCO he will start getting offers from 4 year schools and you should ask the individual school about credits and transfers.
Wow this is all great food for thought.. My son may even be able to play on a southern JUCO.. (FL/GA/SC, etc)
And that allows more options than going to a D2 because of ease of transfer/draft/etc?
So how could JUCO possibly be "worse" than going to a mid-academic D2? (private specialty D2's may have various obvious academic advantages depending on one's field of study) but with "business".. seems it would be wide open...
Super interesting.. again thx!
@bacdorslider posted:Well, if academics are a priority over baseball that's another issue.
If you transfer to a D1 & get a BS/BA then - say - an MBA (just as an example) from said D1 - how is that any different than if you started out there?
@bacdorslider posted:I will say that make sure you do not take too many classes in HS
How is taking too many classes an issue? (honest question!)
THANKS!
It's all in what he wans to do. He is the one having to do it. all these levels are very different and not really better than the other. I have another son that went to Tufts in Boston, a D3 school. He was very high academic and wanted to still play some college ball. I have another that Went JUCO and after two years went D1 but realized he did not have the smarts of time management to do both and dropped baseball. I mentioned the other two in another post. In my eyes if he wants a business degree and wants to pursue baseball , I would go to a FL-TN-TX Juco.... if his skills are there he will likely end up at a D1 or D2..... My history with D2 is that the rosters are too big, the school is too expensive and you are pretty much stuck there. not many transfers from D2 to D1 or D3 and by the time you want to transfer the Juco option is stale
@YachtRocker posted:How do JUCO's work with (present & future) academics? Don't need super high but can after JUCO my son typically still transfer to a decent academic school that their high school GPA/SAT would have otherwise qualified him for - presuming he did great at the JUCO? thx
For some kids maintaining the academic challenge/edge while attending is more of an issue of where he can transfer. Where you start college doesn’t matter. The grades don’t get calculated into the graduating gpa. All that matters is where a kid graduates.
I wouldn’t expect to transfer to an HA (without baseball and outside D1) from a JuCo. But it’s been done.
https://community.hsbaseballwe...96#69302817925572596
Too many AP classes etc... at a Juco can limit your eligibility
@YachtRocker posted:How do JUCO's work with (present & future) academics? Don't need super high but can after JUCO my son typically still transfer to a decent academic school that their high school GPA/SAT would have otherwise qualified him for - presuming he did great at the JUCO? thx
I too am interested in this answer...I googled "High Academic" Junior College and well, it did not come up with much that was helpful.
With the huge amount of kids currently in JUCO with 4 more years of eligibility and higher academic places like Richmond now have basically a whole new class of 5th year/grad student kids (if doing this year why would they not do this going forward for at least a couple of years) I am guessing that JUCO needs to be a considered an option for my son. The kid has a 33 and a 3.7 and am guessing that even the most rigorous JUCO classes won't challenge him a ton. Even if they did will the classes/credits earned transfer to a higher academic school if he was asked to play ball at a place like an Ivy, Patriot, or an HA-D3 (e.g. Tufts, Swarthmore, JH, Emory)?
Are there any higher academic D2's with baseball?
@used2lurk posted:....................................
Are there any higher academic D2's with baseball?
Everybody's definition of HA varies. There are many threads on HSBBWeb that have tried to define it. It is in the eye of the beholder.
Based on this website that caters to HA recruiting, there are no D2s listed. http://www.tier1athletics.org/tier-one-colleges/
However, this list tries to focus on a good mix of academics and D2 baseball. Your mileage may vary. https://www.ncsasports.org/bes...-2-baseball-colleges
@bacdorslider posted:https://community.hsbaseballwe...96#69302817925572596
Too many AP classes etc... at a Juco can limit your eligibility
What is the rule on that? How many hours can you have? I tried looking that up and it just said that you may have to take more hours than you need or take "wasted" hours, but I didn't see anything on eligibility.
You need to be taking 12 credits to be considered a full-time student.
@fenwaysouth posted:Everybody's definition of HA varies. There are many threads on HSBBWeb that have tried to define it. It is in the eye of the beholder.
Based on this website that caters to HA recruiting, there are no D2s listed. http://www.tier1athletics.org/tier-one-colleges/
However, this list tries to focus on a good mix of academics and D2 baseball. Your mileage may vary. https://www.ncsasports.org/bes...-2-baseball-colleges
UCSD is the highest academic school in that list, but they are D1 as of this year. BTW the tuition listed for them is wrong - well, it's the out-of-state number, while they list in-state for all the other CA schools.
Don't forget Mississippi jucos. There are a ton of them and they don't recruit heavily outside of Mississippi and adjoining states but are always looking. They only get 4 out of state recruits a year so they are picky but they do a good job of passing the top players on afterwards. Very affordable.
The rule used to be can't have more than 60 hours to be eligible in juco but Covid has changed that at least temporarily. Who knows what it will be next year.
@PitchingFan posted:Don't forget Mississippi jucos. There are a ton of them and they don't recruit heavily outside of Mississippi and adjoining states but are always looking. They only get 4 out of state recruits a year so they are picky but they do a good job of passing the top players on afterwards. Very affordable.
The rule used to be can't have more than 60 hours to be eligible in juco but Covid has changed that at least temporarily. Who knows what it will be next year.
100% correct on Mississippi JUCOs. And don’t be dissuaded by the D2 in front of their names. They are every bit as good as the good D1 JuCos. Considering that LSU Eunice is also in that Region, it’s the toughest D2 JuCo Region in America- and as a result is heavily recruited & scouted.
@Peach49 posted:You need to be taking 12 credits to be considered a full-time student.
When my son was considering a gap year ten years ago the NCAA informed him more than two classes at a JuCo and the clock starts. This was even though 12 credits constitutes a full time student.
To: RJM
The NCAA seems to be going out of its way to make things difficult for student/athletes.
@Peach49 posted:To: RJM
The NCAA seems to be going out of its way to make things difficult for student/athletes.
But these kids will leave college,with something more important than a multiple dollar contract ... they will go pro in something else. A normal paying job.😁
Enjoyed reading all of this thread. I have a 2026. Good info and perspectives. Thank you.
@bacdorslider posted:My 2014 grad was getting interest from D2 and D3 out of HS. He really wanted to exp. D1 baseball and a university. TPM suggested that we look into a JUCO which we did. The JUCO was thrilled to have him and we felt he would play as a freshman which he did. Then after two years of JUCO and having good numbers and good grades the Mid-Major team started calling. Mid Major team teams love JUCO guys. They are proven and have that chip on their shoulder. Mine went to Columbia State then to Tennessee Tech ( when Tech went to the Florida State regional and the Texas regional the next year. They were one game short of the the College World Series.
He ended up graduating , getting married, building a house and is still in touch with his teammates. Juco is a great way to go. It's cheap, it's fun, and can lead to bigger things. After JUCO you can go D1, D2, D3, Draft etc....
Flip side, 2018 was getting offers from top 10 schools after his soph year in HS. Listed as a t op 200 in 2018 draft , currently pitching for Vanderbilt. With Covid and the roster being inflated it is more important than ever to go to a school where you know you will play. Ask the coaches, be blunt, forget the hype, it means nothing.
Bacdorslider has 4 sons, all took different paths. This is the guy to listen to.
Thank you DS for telling your story and giving advice. I think it's been important.
I am glad that you got your contacts back on!