Make sure your protein you take isnt banned!

IGF-1 occurs naturally in the body and in Mother's milk. It's also present in trace amounts in Cow's milk. Drinking a protein shake or glass of milk will not raise testosterone levels unless massive amounts are consumed. Muscle Milk specifically contains the ingredient Colostrum which subsequently contains trace amounts of naturally occuring IGF-1. I repeat, you would have to consume a ridiculous amount of those products in order to raise your testosterone and test positive.

I e-mailed Cytosport, the makers of Muscle Milk, to see if Chuck's claim was true since my son has been using Muscle Milk for over a year. I received the following reply from Marketing Manager Chris Kildow:

"That information is incorrect. There are trace amounts of IGF-1 that come naturally from the Colostrum in the product. This means that it's not synthetic IGF-1 (Growth Hormone) and is created in digestion. The amount that's found in the product is very small and has never produced any know positive tests with any of the THOUSANDS of athletes that use the product worldwide. These include Olympic Athletes, professional, collegiate and amateurs that have been tested at all levels.

Furthermore, Colostrum was only found in our Muscle Milk powder and not in the Collegiate version, Ready-to-Drink, or the Light (or any other version). Since late last year the Colostrum has been removed from the powders altogether and should no longer pose an issue."

Chuck, I think you need to be a little more responsible before making claims without fully checking out the facts. You can hurt the reputation of good companies by making false or misleading claims on something you don't fully understand.

Considering the only supplement I took was Muscle Milk and i tested positive for testosterone I think I have a pretty solidified right to say that some of the ingredients in MM were the reason for a positive test. Most companies aren't going to give you a straight answer on ingredients and what not because they want you to keep buying the product. I've called Amplify and GNC about their whey protein and they failed to provide a full ingredient list and amounts of each one.

Also, Most of these products are packaged in facilities where banned substances on the NCAA list are also made. Traces of those products can get into other products as well. Not every bucket of protein or whatever you buy is going to be the same.

This seems kind of silly...so you drank muscle milk and then tested positive for test? That really doesn't make much sense. The reason you tested positive is definitely not the colustrum...it's simply impossible. If anything, it was a contaminant, or you have abnormally high test to begin with. Would you mind posting the exact results of your drug test?

All I know is that I was tested by the school and not NCAA (new school policy) Tested twice, first time I passed. Shortly after first test I began taking muscle milk, got tested and failed. Testosterone levels were something like 9:1. I was pretty much flabbergasted when I got the call I tested + for test.

Your school tests for steroids? And more than once? What kind of funding do they have?

It is the University of Minnesota, new school policy I heard they spend around 60 thousand dollars on testing maybe more. Supposedly its random testing but I was selected twice in a row for the first 2 tests.

You certainly may be dealing with a contaminated supplement. Most likely it's a "false positive."

There's no chance it was the IGF-1.

I guess I have all the wrong info.
I thought that IGF was Insulin Growth Factor (growth hormone) and that it controls the growth of bones (and therefore heighth and other things related to bone structure)and general things of growth in the body. I thought it was prescription only and extremely expensive (thousands of dollars).
Testosterone was a naturally occuring hormone that the body produces that increases muscle mass (anabolic effect) and facial hair, lower voice, and other male caracteristics (androgenic effects). It can also be taken into the body (steriod)and they cost hundreds of $.
Aren't these 2 different things?
Are we saying that the old growth formula of squats + milk + rest=growth is wrong because you'll fail a drug test.
Did Palmeiro drink too much milk and squat too hard?
And all the supplement companies make steroids that are really IGF-1 so the $30-50 you spend for supplements are laced with this stuff so that the supplement will work?
Please end my confusion. Thanks.

Tim Robertson

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Originally posted by Tim Robertson:
I guess I have all the wrong info.
I thought that IGF was Insulin Growth Factor (growth hormone) and that it controls the growth of bones (and therefore heighth and other things related to bone structure)and general things of growth in the body. I thought it was prescription only and extremely expensive (thousands of dollars).
Testosterone was a naturally occuring hormone that the body produces that increases muscle mass (anabolic effect) and facial hair, lower voice, and other male caracteristics (androgenic effects). It can also be taken into the body (steriod)and they cost hundreds of $.
Aren't these 2 different things?
Are we saying that the old growth formula of squats + milk + rest=growth is wrong because you'll fail a drug test.
Did Palmeiro drink too much milk and squat too hard?
And all the supplement companies make steroids that are really IGF-1 so the $30-50 you spend for supplements are laced with this stuff so that the supplement will work?
Please end my confusion. Thanks.

Tim Robertson

Tim...easy to get confused in all of this. IGF-1 is in tiny quantities in milk, but it is humanly impossible to drink the amount of milk necessary to fail a drug test. 99% of the time, supplements are not contaminated...make sure you buy from the only the companies with the best reputations. Synthetic IGF is prescription only, and controls the growth of muscle as well as bone etc...used w/steroids, IGF is the arguably the most powerful anabolic agent. Supplement companies do not produce IGF. The thread starter was confused...and as Jon said, his failed drug test was most likely a false positive.

Hopefully that helps a little bit.