Managing a dual sport throwing athlete QB/P/C

I have a junior in college and a senior in high school.  Both of them pitch and the youngest is also a catcher.  Throwing the football every day helped both of them tremendously.  My oldest is left handed and I watched his arm strength rise from year to year.  My youngest has a decent arm but it's amazing to see how far he's come since the summer.  He is also a 2 time all state baseball player and I have no reason to think we need to spend time on the mound at this time.  It is football season here in Texas and it's a huge deal.  Plus, I made sure neither of mine played any crossover baseball during football season.  They needed a break and they owed it to their team to stay healthy.  Just my opinion and I am a former high school baseball coach and presently coach football.  

Overthehill posted:

I have a junior in college and a senior in high school.  Both of them pitch and the youngest is also a catcher.  Throwing the football every day helped both of them tremendously.  My oldest is left handed and I watched his arm strength rise from year to year.  My youngest has a decent arm but it's amazing to see how far he's come since the summer.  He is also a 2 time all state baseball player and I have no reason to think we need to spend time on the mound at this time.  It is football season here in Texas and it's a huge deal.  Plus, I made sure neither of mine played any crossover baseball during football season.  They needed a break and they owed it to their team to stay healthy.  Just my opinion and I am a former high school baseball coach and presently coach football.  

Thanks for the response.  Did they have any extended periods where they did not throw or where you tried to shut them down from throwing?  Dr Andrews advises for 3 months of no throwing, but that will be impossible at our school.  One month is going to be the max, if that. 

Not an expert, but for what's it's worth even during the shut down period for baseball the VERY strict baseball coach would allow the players to throw a football overhand to keep SOME of the baseball pitching muscles alive during the winter months. He didn't consider them the same throwing motion, and he very clearly said that a pitching ramp up would be needed, even with the football throws and rag drills.

My son is a D1 pitcher in his second year and was a P/1B/ Outfielder in high school . He also was a four year varsity football guy, QB/LB, in high school so he was pretty good. We decided early on (middle school) to separate the sports for both burnout reasons and for his health. It worked for us. He didn't do any baseball from August through December. I believe shutting him down during those football seasons has paid off for him now. In other words I don't believe in year round baseball. We also didn't do showcases as I believe that a good summer team and coach is most important. As far as as the carryover from throwing a football versus a baseball I don't think there is much which is why you don't see very many elbow issues with QB's, although some pitchers like Rodger Clemens did use a football as part of his training. Personally I don't think you can spot train adequately during for a Fall event and if the athlete is not at the top of his game why bother? By the way we were lucky that our high school encouraged athletes to play both sports while a lot of neighboring schools coaches prohibited it. Every college college coach we talked to thought it was great that he played football because of the mentality of the sport. Literally everyone bought it up and then wanted to talk football.  

My son is a pitcher is college as well and although we never incorporated any footballs into a throwing regimen for him and he did not play football in HS, he can throw the football both LH and RH. I think it helps.

My son is a D1 pitcher in his second year and was a P/1B/ Outfielder in high school . He also was a four year varsity football guy, QB/LB, in high school so he was pretty good. We decided early on (middle school) to separate the sports for both burnout reasons and for his health. It worked for us. He didn't do any baseball from August through December. I believe shutting him down during those football seasons has paid off for him now. In other words I don't believe in year round baseball. We also didn't do showcases as I believe that a good summer team and coach is most important. As far as as the carryover from throwing a football versus a baseball I don't think there is much which is why you don't see very many elbow issues with QB's, although some pitchers like Rodger Clemens did use a football as part of his training. Personally I don't think you can spot train adequately during for a Fall event and if the athlete is not at the top of his game why bother? By the way we were lucky that our high school encouraged athletes to play both sports while a lot of neighboring schools coaches prohibited it. Every college college coach we talked to thought it was great that he played football because of the mentality of the sport. Literally everyone bought it up and then wanted to talk football.  

Did the same with my son (C/P).  I truly believe throwing the football helped him to throw the baseball harder, plus it used different muscles.  We shut down baseball in the fall.  He was usually too sore to play baseball anyway.

d-mac posted:

My son is a QB in football and C/P/CIF in baseball. 

Grad year?

FYI if he's likely a position player in college he's needs to hit year round even if he's not throwing. There is no rest period for the bat.

Both of mine did hit during the football season!  Their velocity on the mound increased tremendously after and during their senior year of football.  They both threw the football a bunch during the season.  We will go back to baseball during the Christmas break.  They will both have their fill of deer/dove/duck/goose hunting by then.  Then it's time to get going.