quote:Corner Infielders:
- Height: 6'2" Weight: 200 Pounds
- Shows Power Numbers:
Does "power numbers" equal batting average?
Does "power numbers" equal batting average?
Does "power numbers" equal batting average?
If the hitter has all singles his BA=SL%,
However the power numbers guys are not the table setters, sort of speak.
Power numbers reflect the hitter's ability
to drive the ball into the power alleys, as in
doubles, and over the wall, as in home runs, and the ability to drive runs in. What one wants, in a traditional sense, from the 3-4-5-6 hitters.
A few 'power numbers' names that you remember:
- A. Soriano
- Dale Murphy
- Mike Schmidt
- H. Killebrew
- many others
However the power numbers guys are not the table setters, sort of speak.
Power numbers reflect the hitter's ability
to drive the ball into the power alleys, as in
doubles, and over the wall, as in home runs, and the ability to drive runs in. What one wants, in a traditional sense, from the 3-4-5-6 hitters.
A few 'power numbers' names that you remember:
- A. Soriano
- Dale Murphy
- Mike Schmidt
- H. Killebrew
- many others
The following was posted by Perfect Game, which many believe to be a reputable organization, Here is there take on the State of Maryland Baseball:
DRAFT 2008 - STATE-BY-STATE PREVIEW
MARYLAND
OVERVIEW: The University of Maryland produced a supplemental first-rounder last year in lefthander Brett Cecil, but the state (technically, at least) won’t come close to making that kind of contribution to this draft. It might have claimed, though, the three best high school players who reside in Maryland had they all not elected to attend private school in adjoining Washington, D.C.
Lefthander Daniel Hultzen (Bethesda) attends St. Albans School, while outfielder L.J. Hoes (Mitchellville) and lefthander Scott Silverstein (Brookeville) attend St. John’s College Prep. In fact, most of the players on the nationally-ranked St. John’s College Prep roster are Maryland residents. Hoes, Hultzen and Silverstein were scouted this spring as potential top 3-round talents, although injury and signability issues could knock them all down significantly. Those three players will be addressed as part of our coverage of Washington, D.C.
The continued uncertain status of Navy righthander Mitch Harris also potentially compromises Maryland’s impact on the 2008 draft. It still hasn’t been completely resolved what Harris’ ongoing commitment to the U.S. Naval Academy might be once he graduates. The same uncertainty surrounds another Navy pitcher, sophomore righthander Oliver Drake, who has climbed prospect lists this spring.
Another Maryland player, Arundel High righthander Tyler Hibbs, may have taken himself out of the running to be one of the state’s better drafts, as well, when he was charged with possession of marijuana while being pulled over for a traffic violation just prior to the 2008 season. Charges are still pending, but Florida State pulled his scholarship offer a day after the incident. Hibbs didn’t play baseball this spring when he was assigned to an alternative school.
Though the state’s overall draft impact has been marginalized, Maryland did send teams to the NCAA Division III World Series (Johns Hopkins) and Junior College World Series (Hagerstown) this year. Both those schools have late-round candidates—outfielder Rob Pietroforte at Johns Hopkins and righthander Aerik Taylor at Hagerstown.
STRENGTH: High school talent attending private schools in Washington, D.C.
WEAKNESS: High-end offensive players.
OVERALL RATING (1-to-5 scale): 2.
Best Out-of-State Prospect, Maryland Connection: Daniel Hultzen, lhp, St. Albans School, Washington, D.C. (Lives in Bethesda).
Top 2009 Prospect: A.J. Casario, of-c, U. of Maryland.
Top 2010 Prospect: No candidate.
Highest Pick, Draft History: Harold Baines, of, St. Michaels HS (1977, White Sox/1st round, 1st pick).
Highest Pick, 2006 Draft: Matt Sweeney, c, Magruder HS, Rockville (Angels, 8th round).
Highest Pick, 2007 Draft: Brett Cecil, lhp, U. of Maryland (Blue Jays/1st round, 38th pick).
Best College Team: Johns Hopkins
Best Junior College Team: Hagerstown.
Best High School Team: Calvert Hall (Towson).
DRAFT 2008 - STATE-BY-STATE PREVIEW
MARYLAND
OVERVIEW: The University of Maryland produced a supplemental first-rounder last year in lefthander Brett Cecil, but the state (technically, at least) won’t come close to making that kind of contribution to this draft. It might have claimed, though, the three best high school players who reside in Maryland had they all not elected to attend private school in adjoining Washington, D.C.
Lefthander Daniel Hultzen (Bethesda) attends St. Albans School, while outfielder L.J. Hoes (Mitchellville) and lefthander Scott Silverstein (Brookeville) attend St. John’s College Prep. In fact, most of the players on the nationally-ranked St. John’s College Prep roster are Maryland residents. Hoes, Hultzen and Silverstein were scouted this spring as potential top 3-round talents, although injury and signability issues could knock them all down significantly. Those three players will be addressed as part of our coverage of Washington, D.C.
The continued uncertain status of Navy righthander Mitch Harris also potentially compromises Maryland’s impact on the 2008 draft. It still hasn’t been completely resolved what Harris’ ongoing commitment to the U.S. Naval Academy might be once he graduates. The same uncertainty surrounds another Navy pitcher, sophomore righthander Oliver Drake, who has climbed prospect lists this spring.
Another Maryland player, Arundel High righthander Tyler Hibbs, may have taken himself out of the running to be one of the state’s better drafts, as well, when he was charged with possession of marijuana while being pulled over for a traffic violation just prior to the 2008 season. Charges are still pending, but Florida State pulled his scholarship offer a day after the incident. Hibbs didn’t play baseball this spring when he was assigned to an alternative school.
Though the state’s overall draft impact has been marginalized, Maryland did send teams to the NCAA Division III World Series (Johns Hopkins) and Junior College World Series (Hagerstown) this year. Both those schools have late-round candidates—outfielder Rob Pietroforte at Johns Hopkins and righthander Aerik Taylor at Hagerstown.
STRENGTH: High school talent attending private schools in Washington, D.C.
WEAKNESS: High-end offensive players.
OVERALL RATING (1-to-5 scale): 2.
Best Out-of-State Prospect, Maryland Connection: Daniel Hultzen, lhp, St. Albans School, Washington, D.C. (Lives in Bethesda).
Top 2009 Prospect: A.J. Casario, of-c, U. of Maryland.
Top 2010 Prospect: No candidate.
Highest Pick, Draft History: Harold Baines, of, St. Michaels HS (1977, White Sox/1st round, 1st pick).
Highest Pick, 2006 Draft: Matt Sweeney, c, Magruder HS, Rockville (Angels, 8th round).
Highest Pick, 2007 Draft: Brett Cecil, lhp, U. of Maryland (Blue Jays/1st round, 38th pick).
Best College Team: Johns Hopkins
Best Junior College Team: Hagerstown.
Best High School Team: Calvert Hall (Towson).
For now. I doubt that lasts much longer.
quote:Originally posted by VJC Baseball:
Thanks Jason.
I think it's best this conversation be carried off-line, if you know what I mean?
To start, of course PG missed talent
VJC: I give up, you win. Hopkins is the Best team in the State of Maryland and will probably have ten kids drafted. They also open up next year with the Red Sox in Fenway !! Long live D3 Baseball.
Seeing that the draft is tomorrow... Here is the report from PGCrosschecker. Not sure if I'm supposed to do this or not, but I did.
Who is missing that should be on this list?
DRAFT 2008
STATE-BY-STATE FOLLOW LIST
Compiled by Allan Simpson / Perfect GameUSA
May 15, 2008
EDITOR’S NOTE: The attached follow list is a rough estimation of how we see the top prospects in Maryland being drafted. We have given marginal consideration in the evaluation process to signability, which will vary from player to player and may significantly impact a player’s draft position. We have written comprehensive scouting reports on all players in Groups I, II and III on the accompanying list.
GROUPS (College, Junior College, High School)
1 Premium-round draft (Rounds 1-3; projected first-round pick in boldface type)
2 High-round draft (Rounds 4-10)
3 Mid-round draft (Rounds 11-25)
4 Late-round draft (Rounds 26-50)
5 Chance draft/Solid college prospect (players listed in alphabetical order)
2008 STATE PREVIEW
MARYLAND
COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT College Hometown Prev. Drafted B'date
GROUP 2
1. Mitch Harris RHP Sr. R-R 6-4 215 Navy Mt. Holly, N.C. Braves '07 (24) 11-7-85
GROUP 3
2. Eddie Bach LHP So. L-L 6-1 170 Maryland-Balt. County Columbia Never drafted 8-27-86
3. Brian Conley OF/C Sr. L-R 6-2 185 Towson Gaithersburg Never drafted 5-7-86
4. Oliver Drake RHP So. R-R 6-4 194 Navy Gardner, Mass. Never drafted 1-13-87
GROUP 4
5. Rob Piertoforte OF Sr. R-R 6-3 220 Johns Hopkins Brooklyn, N.Y. Never drafted 5/7/86
6. Kevin Biringer RHP Sr. R-R 6-6 200 Maryland Albuquerque, N.M. Never drafted
7. Steve Braun 2B Sr. R-R 6-1 180 Maryland Granada Hills, Calif. Never drafted
8. Dan Blewett RHP Jr. R-R 6-0 185 Maryland-Balt. County Bel Air Never drafted 12-15-85
GROUP 5
Jonas Fester SS Sr. R-R 6-0 195 Johns Hopkins Dallas, Texas Never drafted 7-18-86
Wade Keenan LHP Jr. L-L 6-0 190 Villa Julie Liberty Never drafted
Mike Murphy 3B Jr. R-R 6-0 195 Maryland Silver Spring Never drafted
Jensen Pupa RHP/1B Jr. L-R 6-1 170 Maryland Germantown Never drafted
Steven Soares C So. R-R 5-10 195 Navy Coral Springs, Fla. Never drafted 5-18-87
JUNIOR COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT Junior College Prev. Drafted Commitment B'date
GROUP 4
1. Zach Moore C Fr. L-R 6-4 190 Dundalk Never drafted
2. Aerik Taylor RHP So. R-R 6-1 205 Hagerstown Never drafted Oklahoma State 12-2-87
GROUP 5
Tyler Bugna RHP So. R-R 6-0 205 Cecil Never drafted Towson
Jake Darr UT So. R-R 5-11 178 Hagerstown Never drafted Mount St. Mary's 4-12-88
HIGH SCHOOL
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT High School Hometown Commitment B'date
GROUP 2
1. Kevin Brady RHP Sr. L-R 6-3 195 Gaithersburg Montgomery Village Clemson 9-7-90
GROUP 3
2. Tommy Winegardner SS Sr. B-R 5-11 175 Riverdale Baptist St. Leonard Coastal Carolina 3-11-90
GROUP 4
3. Tyler Hibbs RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 160 Arundel Odenton Tallahassee CC 1-3-90
4. Gabriel Feldman RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 185 Walt Whitman Bethesda Wake Forest 12-15-89
5. Paul DeVito LHP Sr. R-L 6-2 170 Archbishop Spalding Annapolis Radford 1-4-90
6. Ryan Harris OF Sr. R-R 6-4 210 Bishop McNamara Clinton
7. Sander Beck RHP/SS Sr. R-R 6-3 195 Severna Millersville Maryland 10-3-90
GROUP 5
Jason Allinder C Sr. Snow Hill Pocomoke City Niagara
Charles Bartlett IF/OF Sr. Our Lady/Good Council Rockville La Salle
Tyler Bennett C Sr. R-R 6-2 200 Richardson Federalsburg Maryland
Leighton Cooper OF Sr. B-R 6-0 170 Flint Fort Washington Notre Dame
Brady Feigl LHP Sr. R-L 5-10 145 Old Mill Severn Mount St. Mary's
Michael Foster SS Sr. R-R 6-0 150 Easton Easton Mount St. Mary's
Brian Frederick SS/RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 180 Dulaney Cockeysville UNC Greeneboro
Josh Futter RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 190 Wilde Lake Columbia James Madison
Matt Hillsinger OF Sr. L-R 6-2 175 Archbishop Spalding Bowie Radford
Dan Horner LHP Sr. L-L 5-11 175 Easton Easton Mount St. Mary's
Jeff Kemp SS Sr. R-R 6-1 185 Archbishop Spalding Annapolis Radford
Ryan Kemp RHP Sr. R-R 6-2 195 Mount St. Joseph Mt. St. Joseph
Hunter Kitchens RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 160 Glenelg Woodbine
Austin Knight SS Sr. B-R 6-0 180 Boys Latin Pfeisterstown
Matthew Markey RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 175 St. Paul's Kingsville
Jason Patten RHP Sr. R-R 6-0 190 Archbishop Spalding Davidsonville Radford
Aaron Poretz RHP Sr. R-R 5-5 130 St. Mary's Lothean
Tony Prescott IF Sr. Howard Elkridge Mount St. Mary's
Brooks Rothschild RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 188 Calvert Hall Pasadena Mount St. Mary's
Sean Thompson LHP Sr. L-L 6-4 195 Archbishop Curley Elkridge High Point
Carl Travers C Sr. R-R 5-11 165 Riverdale Baptist Huntingtown Radford 9-1-89
Ben Winter OF Sr. Centennial Ellicott City Towson
Who is missing that should be on this list?
DRAFT 2008
STATE-BY-STATE FOLLOW LIST
Compiled by Allan Simpson / Perfect GameUSA
May 15, 2008
EDITOR’S NOTE: The attached follow list is a rough estimation of how we see the top prospects in Maryland being drafted. We have given marginal consideration in the evaluation process to signability, which will vary from player to player and may significantly impact a player’s draft position. We have written comprehensive scouting reports on all players in Groups I, II and III on the accompanying list.
GROUPS (College, Junior College, High School)
1 Premium-round draft (Rounds 1-3; projected first-round pick in boldface type)
2 High-round draft (Rounds 4-10)
3 Mid-round draft (Rounds 11-25)
4 Late-round draft (Rounds 26-50)
5 Chance draft/Solid college prospect (players listed in alphabetical order)
2008 STATE PREVIEW
MARYLAND
COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT College Hometown Prev. Drafted B'date
GROUP 2
1. Mitch Harris RHP Sr. R-R 6-4 215 Navy Mt. Holly, N.C. Braves '07 (24) 11-7-85
GROUP 3
2. Eddie Bach LHP So. L-L 6-1 170 Maryland-Balt. County Columbia Never drafted 8-27-86
3. Brian Conley OF/C Sr. L-R 6-2 185 Towson Gaithersburg Never drafted 5-7-86
4. Oliver Drake RHP So. R-R 6-4 194 Navy Gardner, Mass. Never drafted 1-13-87
GROUP 4
5. Rob Piertoforte OF Sr. R-R 6-3 220 Johns Hopkins Brooklyn, N.Y. Never drafted 5/7/86
6. Kevin Biringer RHP Sr. R-R 6-6 200 Maryland Albuquerque, N.M. Never drafted
7. Steve Braun 2B Sr. R-R 6-1 180 Maryland Granada Hills, Calif. Never drafted
8. Dan Blewett RHP Jr. R-R 6-0 185 Maryland-Balt. County Bel Air Never drafted 12-15-85
GROUP 5
Jonas Fester SS Sr. R-R 6-0 195 Johns Hopkins Dallas, Texas Never drafted 7-18-86
Wade Keenan LHP Jr. L-L 6-0 190 Villa Julie Liberty Never drafted
Mike Murphy 3B Jr. R-R 6-0 195 Maryland Silver Spring Never drafted
Jensen Pupa RHP/1B Jr. L-R 6-1 170 Maryland Germantown Never drafted
Steven Soares C So. R-R 5-10 195 Navy Coral Springs, Fla. Never drafted 5-18-87
JUNIOR COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT Junior College Prev. Drafted Commitment B'date
GROUP 4
1. Zach Moore C Fr. L-R 6-4 190 Dundalk Never drafted
2. Aerik Taylor RHP So. R-R 6-1 205 Hagerstown Never drafted Oklahoma State 12-2-87
GROUP 5
Tyler Bugna RHP So. R-R 6-0 205 Cecil Never drafted Towson
Jake Darr UT So. R-R 5-11 178 Hagerstown Never drafted Mount St. Mary's 4-12-88
HIGH SCHOOL
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT High School Hometown Commitment B'date
GROUP 2
1. Kevin Brady RHP Sr. L-R 6-3 195 Gaithersburg Montgomery Village Clemson 9-7-90
GROUP 3
2. Tommy Winegardner SS Sr. B-R 5-11 175 Riverdale Baptist St. Leonard Coastal Carolina 3-11-90
GROUP 4
3. Tyler Hibbs RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 160 Arundel Odenton Tallahassee CC 1-3-90
4. Gabriel Feldman RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 185 Walt Whitman Bethesda Wake Forest 12-15-89
5. Paul DeVito LHP Sr. R-L 6-2 170 Archbishop Spalding Annapolis Radford 1-4-90
6. Ryan Harris OF Sr. R-R 6-4 210 Bishop McNamara Clinton
7. Sander Beck RHP/SS Sr. R-R 6-3 195 Severna Millersville Maryland 10-3-90
GROUP 5
Jason Allinder C Sr. Snow Hill Pocomoke City Niagara
Charles Bartlett IF/OF Sr. Our Lady/Good Council Rockville La Salle
Tyler Bennett C Sr. R-R 6-2 200 Richardson Federalsburg Maryland
Leighton Cooper OF Sr. B-R 6-0 170 Flint Fort Washington Notre Dame
Brady Feigl LHP Sr. R-L 5-10 145 Old Mill Severn Mount St. Mary's
Michael Foster SS Sr. R-R 6-0 150 Easton Easton Mount St. Mary's
Brian Frederick SS/RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 180 Dulaney Cockeysville UNC Greeneboro
Josh Futter RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 190 Wilde Lake Columbia James Madison
Matt Hillsinger OF Sr. L-R 6-2 175 Archbishop Spalding Bowie Radford
Dan Horner LHP Sr. L-L 5-11 175 Easton Easton Mount St. Mary's
Jeff Kemp SS Sr. R-R 6-1 185 Archbishop Spalding Annapolis Radford
Ryan Kemp RHP Sr. R-R 6-2 195 Mount St. Joseph Mt. St. Joseph
Hunter Kitchens RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 160 Glenelg Woodbine
Austin Knight SS Sr. B-R 6-0 180 Boys Latin Pfeisterstown
Matthew Markey RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 175 St. Paul's Kingsville
Jason Patten RHP Sr. R-R 6-0 190 Archbishop Spalding Davidsonville Radford
Aaron Poretz RHP Sr. R-R 5-5 130 St. Mary's Lothean
Tony Prescott IF Sr. Howard Elkridge Mount St. Mary's
Brooks Rothschild RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 188 Calvert Hall Pasadena Mount St. Mary's
Sean Thompson LHP Sr. L-L 6-4 195 Archbishop Curley Elkridge High Point
Carl Travers C Sr. R-R 5-11 165 Riverdale Baptist Huntingtown Radford 9-1-89
Ben Winter OF Sr. Centennial Ellicott City Towson
You missed a kid who hit 20 home runs this year as a Division one player, including one this past weekend at North Carolina in A NCAA Regional. Not sure about your list??
Vittek?
yep
We do miss one or two at times. I do think Josh Vittek should be on that list. Where do you see him getting selected?
Good thing is, we get to find out real soon!
Good thing is, we get to find out real soon!
jrip,
VJC: I give up, you win. Hopkins is the Best team in the State of Maryland and will probably have ten kids drafted. They also open up next year with the Red Sox in Fenway !! Long live D3 Baseball.
...now your just getting ridiculous, I just ask that people not trash what they don't know...plain and simple, too many people think the DIII isn't any better than HS, and that is DEAD WRONG. And that has something to do with why there has been so many transfers in college baseball, and partially why the NCAA changed their transfer rules. I'm tired of hearing people say i've got a kid that can start for you, and he throws 80 mph...maybe if he develops, gets stronger, and throws harder, but not right now, he'd get shelled at our level, period.
VJC: I give up, you win. Hopkins is the Best team in the State of Maryland and will probably have ten kids drafted. They also open up next year with the Red Sox in Fenway !! Long live D3 Baseball.
...now your just getting ridiculous, I just ask that people not trash what they don't know...plain and simple, too many people think the DIII isn't any better than HS, and that is DEAD WRONG. And that has something to do with why there has been so many transfers in college baseball, and partially why the NCAA changed their transfer rules. I'm tired of hearing people say i've got a kid that can start for you, and he throws 80 mph...maybe if he develops, gets stronger, and throws harder, but not right now, he'd get shelled at our level, period.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Seeing that the draft is tomorrow... Here is the report from PGCrosschecker. Not sure if I'm supposed to do this or not, but I did.
Who is missing that should be on this list?
DRAFT 2008
STATE-BY-STATE FOLLOW LIST
Compiled by Allan Simpson / Perfect GameUSA
May 15, 2008
EDITOR’S NOTE: The attached follow list is a rough estimation of how we see the top prospects in Maryland being drafted. We have given marginal consideration in the evaluation process to signability, which will vary from player to player and may significantly impact a player’s draft position. We have written comprehensive scouting reports on all players in Groups I, II and III on the accompanying list.
GROUPS (College, Junior College, High School)
1 Premium-round draft (Rounds 1-3; projected first-round pick in boldface type)
2 High-round draft (Rounds 4-10)
3 Mid-round draft (Rounds 11-25)
4 Late-round draft (Rounds 26-50)
5 Chance draft/Solid college prospect (players listed in alphabetical order)
2008 STATE PREVIEW
MARYLAND
COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT College Hometown Prev. Drafted B'date
GROUP 2
1. Mitch Harris RHP Sr. R-R 6-4 215 Navy Mt. Holly, N.C. Braves '07 (24) 11-7-85
GROUP 3
2. Eddie Bach LHP So. L-L 6-1 170 Maryland-Balt. County Columbia Never drafted 8-27-86
3. Brian Conley OF/C Sr. L-R 6-2 185 Towson Gaithersburg Never drafted 5-7-86
4. Oliver Drake RHP So. R-R 6-4 194 Navy Gardner, Mass. Never drafted 1-13-87
GROUP 4
5. Rob Piertoforte OF Sr. R-R 6-3 220 Johns Hopkins Brooklyn, N.Y. Never drafted 5/7/86
6. Kevin Biringer RHP Sr. R-R 6-6 200 Maryland Albuquerque, N.M. Never drafted
7. Steve Braun 2B Sr. R-R 6-1 180 Maryland Granada Hills, Calif. Never drafted
8. Dan Blewett RHP Jr. R-R 6-0 185 Maryland-Balt. County Bel Air Never drafted 12-15-85
GROUP 5
Jonas Fester SS Sr. R-R 6-0 195 Johns Hopkins Dallas, Texas Never drafted 7-18-86
Wade Keenan LHP Jr. L-L 6-0 190 Villa Julie Liberty Never drafted
Mike Murphy 3B Jr. R-R 6-0 195 Maryland Silver Spring Never drafted
Jensen Pupa RHP/1B Jr. L-R 6-1 170 Maryland Germantown Never drafted
Steven Soares C So. R-R 5-10 195 Navy Coral Springs, Fla. Never drafted 5-18-87
JUNIOR COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT Junior College Prev. Drafted Commitment B'date
GROUP 4
1. Zach Moore C Fr. L-R 6-4 190 Dundalk Never drafted
2. Aerik Taylor RHP So. R-R 6-1 205 Hagerstown Never drafted Oklahoma State 12-2-87
GROUP 5
Tyler Bugna RHP So. R-R 6-0 205 Cecil Never drafted Towson
Jake Darr UT So. R-R 5-11 178 Hagerstown Never drafted Mount St. Mary's 4-12-88
HIGH SCHOOL
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT High School Hometown Commitment B'date
GROUP 2
1. Kevin Brady RHP Sr. L-R 6-3 195 Gaithersburg Montgomery Village Clemson 9-7-90
GROUP 3
2. Tommy Winegardner SS Sr. B-R 5-11 175 Riverdale Baptist St. Leonard Coastal Carolina 3-11-90
GROUP 4
3. Tyler Hibbs RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 160 Arundel Odenton Tallahassee CC 1-3-90
4. Gabriel Feldman RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 185 Walt Whitman Bethesda Wake Forest 12-15-89
5. Paul DeVito LHP Sr. R-L 6-2 170 Archbishop Spalding Annapolis Radford 1-4-90
6. Ryan Harris OF Sr. R-R 6-4 210 Bishop McNamara Clinton
7. Sander Beck RHP/SS Sr. R-R 6-3 195 Severna Millersville Maryland 10-3-90
GROUP 5
Jason Allinder C Sr. Snow Hill Pocomoke City Niagara
Charles Bartlett IF/OF Sr. Our Lady/Good Council Rockville La Salle
Tyler Bennett C Sr. R-R 6-2 200 Richardson Federalsburg Maryland
Leighton Cooper OF Sr. B-R 6-0 170 Flint Fort Washington Notre Dame
Brady Feigl LHP Sr. R-L 5-10 145 Old Mill Severn Mount St. Mary's
Michael Foster SS Sr. R-R 6-0 150 Easton Easton Mount St. Mary's
Brian Frederick SS/RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 180 Dulaney Cockeysville UNC Greeneboro
Josh Futter RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 190 Wilde Lake Columbia James Madison
Matt Hillsinger OF Sr. L-R 6-2 175 Archbishop Spalding Bowie Radford
Dan Horner LHP Sr. L-L 5-11 175 Easton Easton Mount St. Mary's
Jeff Kemp SS Sr. R-R 6-1 185 Archbishop Spalding Annapolis Radford
Ryan Kemp RHP Sr. R-R 6-2 195 Mount St. Joseph Mt. St. Joseph
Hunter Kitchens RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 160 Glenelg Woodbine
Austin Knight SS Sr. B-R 6-0 180 Boys Latin Pfeisterstown
Matthew Markey RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 175 St. Paul's Kingsville
Jason Patten RHP Sr. R-R 6-0 190 Archbishop Spalding Davidsonville Radford
Aaron Poretz RHP Sr. R-R 5-5 130 St. Mary's Lothean
Tony Prescott IF Sr. Howard Elkridge Mount St. Mary's
Brooks Rothschild RHP Sr. R-R 5-11 188 Calvert Hall Pasadena Mount St. Mary's
Sean Thompson LHP Sr. L-L 6-4 195 Archbishop Curley Elkridge High Point
Carl Travers C Sr. R-R 5-11 165 Riverdale Baptist Huntingtown Radford 9-1-89
Ben Winter OF Sr. Centennial Ellicott City Towson
This is a question from PG Staff. How do you come up with this list? (I am Being serious)
quote:Compiled by Allan Simpson / Perfect GameUSA
Allan was the founder and editor of Baseball America for 26 years before he went to work for Perfect Game. He has an unbelievable amount of contacts in professional scouting and college baseball. He is generally considered one of the foremost draft experts in baseball.
All that said, he or no one else is perfect.
Of course, the majority of all these named players will not be drafted. And I do think the states like California, Florida, Texas and Georgia will be more accurate than some of the smaller states that don't usually produce as many draft picks.
Some players are always missed. There are many who produce lists. Over the next couple days we will see who provided the most accurate list. That is the good part... We get to find out very soon.
We never claimed to be perfect. I'm positive we will miss some from Maryland. I'm also positive that we named more players from Maryland than anyone else.
And before anyone mentions it... No! all these players did not attend PG events or pay to get listed.
quote:We never claimed to be perfect. I'm positive we will miss some from Maryland. I'm also positive that we named more players from Maryland than anyone else.
And before anyone mentions it... No! all these players did not attend PG events or pay to get listed.
It is ironic, but with a name like Perfect Game - are you sure you are not in fact claiming to be perfect?
Seriously, I can vouch for the second part. A friend sent me a note recently that my son was listed by pgcrosschecker for South Carolina. He never attended a PG event. Although he was listed much lower than I would have liked, I was still glad he was on the list nonetheless
This thread is humerous. It started with a question whether DIII is on level with high school and ended up with a claim that DIII is better than DI. Couple of observations in my humble opinion.
JH is unique among DIII. Instead of it's high admission standards being a detriment, in the current climate, its incredibly high academic standing enables it to entice some high caliber talent. A few other DIII of similar standing are able to steal a few players each year from DI.
Most players, (or parents of players), who starts in high school, in all sports-not just baseball, believe they can, or could have played, DII--if they wanted to. That's silly. DIIIs recruit.
However, comparing DI with DIII is really an apples/oranges comparison.
JH is unique among DIII. Instead of it's high admission standards being a detriment, in the current climate, its incredibly high academic standing enables it to entice some high caliber talent. A few other DIII of similar standing are able to steal a few players each year from DI.
Most players, (or parents of players), who starts in high school, in all sports-not just baseball, believe they can, or could have played, DII--if they wanted to. That's silly. DIIIs recruit.
However, comparing DI with DIII is really an apples/oranges comparison.
I think its pretty obvious that kids will make the list and others will not. Some kids that aren't on the list will be drafted and others that are on the list will not. Vittek, is a prime example, as well as Delawter from UMBC, and I'm sure countless other folks as well. You'll drive yourself nuts trying to speculate.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Who is missing that should be on this list?
A arm from Maryland, Enrique Garcia
I imagine you mean the Enrique Garcia who pitches at Miami. He is from MD, but listed under Florida.
1 Buster Posey C Jr. R-R 6-2 200 Florida State Leesburg, Ga. Angels '05 (50) 3/27/1987
2 Yonder Alonso 1B Jr. L-R 6-2 215 Miami Miami Twins '05 (16) 4/8/1987
3 Jemile Weeks 2B Jr. R-R 5-9 165 Miami Altamonte Springs Brewers '05 (8) 1/26/1987
4 Dennis Raben OF/1B Jr. L-L 6-3 218 Miami Hollywood Mariners '05 (49) 7/31/1987
5 Carlos Gutierrez RHP Jr. R-R 6-3 205 Miami Miami Never drafted 9/22/1986
6 Richard Bleier LHP Jr. L-L 6-3 210 Florida Gulf Coast Davie Never drafted
7 Blake Tekotte OF Jr. L-R 6-0 175 Miami Columbia, Mo. Never drafted 5/24/1987
GROUP 2
8 Tyler Stohr RHP Jr. R-R 6-2 205 North Florida Viera Never drafted 9/19/1986
9 Mark Sobolewski 3B So. R-R 6-1 195 Miami Sarasota Astros '06 (20) 12/24/1986
10 Tony Delmonico SS Jr. B-R 6-0 194 Florida State Knoxville Never drafted 4/27/1987
11 Ryan Strauss RHP Sr. R-R 6-2 200 Florida State Tampa Twins '07 (35) 10/21/1985
12 Casey Coleman RHP/SS Jr. L-R 6-2 180 Florida Gulf Coast Cape Coral Devil Rays '05 (49)
13 Daniel Thomas RHP Jr. R-R 6-2 195 South Florida Tampa Cardinals '07 (44) 2/10/1986
14 Cole Figueroa SS/2B So. L-R 5-10 180 Florida Tallahassee Blue Jays '06 (9) 6/30/1987
15 Enrique Garcia RHP Sr. R-R 6-5 215 Miami Mechanicsburg, Md. Cubs '07 (34) 11/14/1986 16 Avery Barnes 2B/OF Jr. L-R 5-11 165 Florida High Springs Never drafted
17 Daniel Cook 3B/OF Sr. R-R 6-3 175 Florida Atlantic Miami Nationals '07 (20) 6/15/1986
1 Buster Posey C Jr. R-R 6-2 200 Florida State Leesburg, Ga. Angels '05 (50) 3/27/1987
2 Yonder Alonso 1B Jr. L-R 6-2 215 Miami Miami Twins '05 (16) 4/8/1987
3 Jemile Weeks 2B Jr. R-R 5-9 165 Miami Altamonte Springs Brewers '05 (8) 1/26/1987
4 Dennis Raben OF/1B Jr. L-L 6-3 218 Miami Hollywood Mariners '05 (49) 7/31/1987
5 Carlos Gutierrez RHP Jr. R-R 6-3 205 Miami Miami Never drafted 9/22/1986
6 Richard Bleier LHP Jr. L-L 6-3 210 Florida Gulf Coast Davie Never drafted
7 Blake Tekotte OF Jr. L-R 6-0 175 Miami Columbia, Mo. Never drafted 5/24/1987
GROUP 2
8 Tyler Stohr RHP Jr. R-R 6-2 205 North Florida Viera Never drafted 9/19/1986
9 Mark Sobolewski 3B So. R-R 6-1 195 Miami Sarasota Astros '06 (20) 12/24/1986
10 Tony Delmonico SS Jr. B-R 6-0 194 Florida State Knoxville Never drafted 4/27/1987
11 Ryan Strauss RHP Sr. R-R 6-2 200 Florida State Tampa Twins '07 (35) 10/21/1985
12 Casey Coleman RHP/SS Jr. L-R 6-2 180 Florida Gulf Coast Cape Coral Devil Rays '05 (49)
13 Daniel Thomas RHP Jr. R-R 6-2 195 South Florida Tampa Cardinals '07 (44) 2/10/1986
14 Cole Figueroa SS/2B So. L-R 5-10 180 Florida Tallahassee Blue Jays '06 (9) 6/30/1987
15 Enrique Garcia RHP Sr. R-R 6-5 215 Miami Mechanicsburg, Md. Cubs '07 (34) 11/14/1986 16 Avery Barnes 2B/OF Jr. L-R 5-11 165 Florida High Springs Never drafted
17 Daniel Cook 3B/OF Sr. R-R 6-3 175 Florida Atlantic Miami Nationals '07 (20) 6/15/1986
quote:Originally posted by gamefan:quote:Corner Infielders:
- Height: 6'2" Weight: 200 Pounds
- Shows Power Numbers:
Does "power numbers" equal batting average?
Thought these stats are as interesting
HR >34 y/o Total HR %
BONDS 263 708 37
AARON 245 755 32
PALMEIRO 208 569 37
RUTH 198 714 28
JACKSON 153 563 27
MCCOVEY 137 521 26
MCGWIRE 126 583 22
MURRAY 125 504 25
SCHMIDT 123 548 22
MAYS 118 660 18
ROBINSON 111 586 19
BANKS 108 512 21
WILLIAMS 103 521 20
KILLEBREW 86 573 15
SOSA 49 588 8
OTT 48 511 9
MANTLE 40 536 7
MATTHEWS 19 512 4
FOXX 7 534 1
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
I imagine you mean the Enrique Garcia who pitches at Miami.
So where do you imagine a Brew Crew 1st rounder
Evan Frederickson, local arm from Oakton HS in Vienna VA, who transferred from Va Tech after two years?
I don't have to imagine on that one... He was listed #10 under California. Didn't know he was from Maryland, we have him from Virginia.
GROUPS (College, Junior College, High School)
1 Premium-round draft (Rounds 1-3
COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT College Hometown Prev. Drafted B'date
GROUP 1
1. Brian Matusz LHP Jr. L-L 6-4 200 San Diego Cave Creek, Ariz. Angels '05 (4) 2-11-87
2. Jason Castro C Jr. L-R 6-3 215 Stanford Castro Valley Red Sox '05 (43) 6-18-87
3. David Cooper 1B Jr. L-L 6-1 190 California Stockton Never drafted 2-12-87
4. Tanner Scheppers RHP Jr. R-R 6-4 170 Fresno State Laguna Niguel Orioles '05 (29) 1-17-87
5. Tyson Ross RHP Jr. R-R 6-6 230 California Oakland Never drafted 4-22-87
6. Eric Thames OF Jr. L-L 6-1 197 Pepperdine San Jose Yankees '07 (39) 11-10-86
7. Brett Hunter RHP Jr. R-R 6-4 215 Pepperdine Moorpark Never drafted 6-27-87
8. Brandon Crawford SS Jr. L-R 6-2 200 UCLA Pleasanton Never drafted 1-21-87
9. Tim Murphy LHP Jr. L-L 6-2 200 UCLA Vista Angels '05 (11) 4-22-87
10. Evan Fredrickson LHP Jr. L-L 6-6 250 San Francisco Oak Hill Twins '05 (27) 9-23-86
11. Jake Jefferies C Jr. L-R 6-3 200 UC Davis Merced Never drafted 10-30-87
12. Scott Gorgen RHP Jr. R-R 5-10 190 UC Irvine Concord Never drafted 1-21-87
13. Bryan Shaw RHP Jr. R-R 6-1 210 Long Beach State Livermore Never drafted 11-8-87
14. Andrew Liebel RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 195 Long Beach State Pomona Cubs '04 (47) 3-22-86
15. Logan Schafer OF Jr. L-L 6-1 170 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo Rockies '07 (47) 9-8-86
16. Shane Peterson 1B/OF Jr. L-L 6-0 195 Long Beach State Temecula Never drafted 2-11-88
17. Vance Worley RHP Jr. R-R 6-2 220 Long Beach State Sacramento Phillies '05 (20) 9-25-87
18. Erik Komatsu OF Jr. L-L 5-10 190 Cal State Fullerton Camarillo Yankees '07 (38) 10-1-87
GROUPS (College, Junior College, High School)
1 Premium-round draft (Rounds 1-3
COLLEGE
Rank Player Pos. Class B-T HT WT College Hometown Prev. Drafted B'date
GROUP 1
1. Brian Matusz LHP Jr. L-L 6-4 200 San Diego Cave Creek, Ariz. Angels '05 (4) 2-11-87
2. Jason Castro C Jr. L-R 6-3 215 Stanford Castro Valley Red Sox '05 (43) 6-18-87
3. David Cooper 1B Jr. L-L 6-1 190 California Stockton Never drafted 2-12-87
4. Tanner Scheppers RHP Jr. R-R 6-4 170 Fresno State Laguna Niguel Orioles '05 (29) 1-17-87
5. Tyson Ross RHP Jr. R-R 6-6 230 California Oakland Never drafted 4-22-87
6. Eric Thames OF Jr. L-L 6-1 197 Pepperdine San Jose Yankees '07 (39) 11-10-86
7. Brett Hunter RHP Jr. R-R 6-4 215 Pepperdine Moorpark Never drafted 6-27-87
8. Brandon Crawford SS Jr. L-R 6-2 200 UCLA Pleasanton Never drafted 1-21-87
9. Tim Murphy LHP Jr. L-L 6-2 200 UCLA Vista Angels '05 (11) 4-22-87
10. Evan Fredrickson LHP Jr. L-L 6-6 250 San Francisco Oak Hill Twins '05 (27) 9-23-86
11. Jake Jefferies C Jr. L-R 6-3 200 UC Davis Merced Never drafted 10-30-87
12. Scott Gorgen RHP Jr. R-R 5-10 190 UC Irvine Concord Never drafted 1-21-87
13. Bryan Shaw RHP Jr. R-R 6-1 210 Long Beach State Livermore Never drafted 11-8-87
14. Andrew Liebel RHP Sr. R-R 6-1 195 Long Beach State Pomona Cubs '04 (47) 3-22-86
15. Logan Schafer OF Jr. L-L 6-1 170 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo Rockies '07 (47) 9-8-86
16. Shane Peterson 1B/OF Jr. L-L 6-0 195 Long Beach State Temecula Never drafted 2-11-88
17. Vance Worley RHP Jr. R-R 6-2 220 Long Beach State Sacramento Phillies '05 (20) 9-25-87
18. Erik Komatsu OF Jr. L-L 5-10 190 Cal State Fullerton Camarillo Yankees '07 (38) 10-1-87
He is not from Maryland. Though a native of CA, he is most recently from Oak Hill, Virginia . Oakton HS, from which he graduated, is in Vienna, VA. Congrats to Evan!
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D1's in MD. Isn't Annapolis in Maryland?
USNA is D1, even if they don't always play that way...
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D1's in MD. Isn't Annapolis in Maryland?
USNA is D1, even if they don't always play that way...
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quote:Originally posted by deldad:
That there is even a discussion about whether the Terps are the best baseball in the state of Maryland is an indictment of the program in College Park. Being the only BCS conference school in the state, playing in the prestigious ACC, and having the history that Bear alledges, should make Terpville the place to be for all the best recruits in the state of Maryland. But year after year, the best in Maryland flood to other schools, many of them in the ACC. The fact that Towson even draws comparisons by anyone, should be an embarrassment.
Really does it matter who played for the Terps and then went pro in the 70's? How does that help the Terps win games this year. History is a wonderful thing but it is just that, history.
Bear, Kevin Hart plays for the CHICAGO CUBS, not the White Sox. Yes it is a big deal here in the windy city.
Old fox-as for the pope thing I believe that Bear pronounces it Sibboleth not Shibboleth
The best players from the Maryland/DC vicinity do not consider Universities/Colleges in Maryland -- look at the last senior class --- Sure ACC schools are chosen but they are located in Virginia, North and South Carolina and Flordia. -- Having recently been privy to the recruitment activities of schools in the ACC and SEC -- I can tell you that the percentage of scholorship and the total price tag are not usually the primary driver. It is the coaches, history of the institution (academically and baseball) and the facilities. Overall, Universities/colleges -- in Maryland (even Division I) are viewed by the top recruits as tier two at best. The University of Maryland baseball facilities and their financial support of the program have been sub standard. Nothing is significantly going to change until these two areas are addressed. ---- In the meantime, kids from Maryland will venture south and west ---
Without kowing the reasons why - and I am sure they are varied and many - I have to agree with Trepfan. In the '08 class of Perfect Games top 21 ranked prospects from the state of Maryland.....only 2 (both good ones, no doubt) ended up in College Park.
We'll see if the Terps fair any better with the '09s.....
We'll see if the Terps fair any better with the '09s.....
I personally think Radford did exceptionally well in recruiting the most blue chip MD players. I have to qualify that by saying that I don't know all of the kids involved. But I do know a number of the Radford kids and they sure are fine players.
Here's an updated list from the Perfect Game site showing where the 2008 grads went. While there are a few that do not list a college....I'm guessing they didn't end up in College Park. It's not like the talent in Maryland isn't decent with schools like UVa, Clemson, Coastal, Wake, Miss. State, and Notre Dame, ...along with Radford...picking up a number of the top players. Granted, getting Beck and Bennett is great for Maryland - they should contribute right away. The question is why so many of the top players choose to go elsewhere?
Perfect Games ranking of 2008 Grads from the state of Maryland:
1 45 Danny Hultzen LHP 6-0 180 L L St. Albans Bethesda MD Virginia
2 70 Scott Silverstein LHP 6-5 225 L L St. John's College Brookeville MD Virginia
3 72 LJ Hoes OF IF/P 6-0 190 R R St. John's Mitchellville MD North Carolina
4 75 Kevin Brady RHP 1B 6-3 195 L R Gaithersburg Montgomery Village MD Clemson
5 129 Tommy Winegardner SS RHP 5-11 175 S R Riverdale Baptist St. Leonard MD Coastal Carolina
6 306 Gabriel Feldman RHP 5-11 170 R R Walt Whitman Cabin John MD Wake Forest
7 448 Tyler Hibbs RHP SS 5-11 160 R R Arundel Odenton MD Tallahassee CC
8 497 Paul Devito LHP OF 6-2 165 R L Arch. Spalding Annapolis MD Radford
9 739 Nick Routt LHP 6-3 185 L L St. John's Silver Spring MD Mississippi State
10 830 Ryan Harris OF RHP 6-4 210 R R Bishop McNamara Clinton MD
11 856 Sander Beck MIF RHP 6-2 195 R R Severn Millersville MD Maryland
12 1004 Leighton Cooper OF 6-0 170 S R Flint Hill Fort Washington MD Notre Dame
13 1137 Carl Travers C MIF/P 5-11 165 R R Riverdale Baptist Huntingtown MD Radford
14 1145 Alex Frederick SS RHP 6-1 180 R R Dulaney cockeyville MD UNC-Greensboro
15 1193 Sean Thompson RHP 6-3 180 R R Bishop Curley Elkridge MD High Point
16 1224 Tyler Bennett C RHP 6-1 190 R R Colonel Richardson Federalsburg MD Maryland
17 1272 Austin Knight MIF 6-0 180 S R Boys Latin School Peisteistown MD
18 1443 Austin Poretz RHP IF 5-8 165 R R St.Mary's Lothian MD
19 1468 Nick Rivers C 1B 6-2 250 R R Dematha Laurel MD Delaware
20 1489 Jason Patten RHP OF 6-0 175 R R Spaulding Davidsonville MD Radford
21 1508 Matthew Markey RHP 3B 5-11 175 R R St Pauls School Kingsville MD
22 1525 Micheal Loeb RHP 6-2 185 R R St. Johns Gaithersburg MD Davidson
23 1575 Hugh Adams RHP 6-5 210 R R St. John's Bethesda MD Florida Atlantic
24 1685 Jeffrey Kemp IF 6-1 175 R R Archbishop Spalding Bowie MD Radford
25 1769 Brian Davila OF 3B 5-10 160 R R Howard Ellicott City MD Lafayette
26 1782 Josh Futter RHP 6-1 193 R R wilde lake columbia MD James Madison
27 1876 Matthew Mack 3B 1B 5-11 195 R R St. John's College Davidsonville MD Radford
28 1888 Jeff Flax MIF C 5-10 155 S R St. Johns North Potomac MD LaSalle
29 1918 William Jarboe RHP 1B 6-7 183 L R South River Davidsonville MD Patrick Henry CC
30 1928 Matthew Hillsinger OF 6-2 160 L R Bowie Bowie MD Radford
31 1961 Kieran Flannery C 3B/MIF/ 6-1 170 R R St. Vincent Pallotti Laurel MD
32 1965 Cory Beahm IF RHP 5-10 160 R R St. John's Burtonsville MD Hartford
33 2022 Kevin Johnson OF 6-1 175 R R Quince Orchard Gaithersburg MD
34 2043 Jason Allinder C OF 5-10 170 R R Snow Hill Pocomoke City MD Niagara
Perfect Games ranking of 2008 Grads from the state of Maryland:
1 45 Danny Hultzen LHP 6-0 180 L L St. Albans Bethesda MD Virginia
2 70 Scott Silverstein LHP 6-5 225 L L St. John's College Brookeville MD Virginia
3 72 LJ Hoes OF IF/P 6-0 190 R R St. John's Mitchellville MD North Carolina
4 75 Kevin Brady RHP 1B 6-3 195 L R Gaithersburg Montgomery Village MD Clemson
5 129 Tommy Winegardner SS RHP 5-11 175 S R Riverdale Baptist St. Leonard MD Coastal Carolina
6 306 Gabriel Feldman RHP 5-11 170 R R Walt Whitman Cabin John MD Wake Forest
7 448 Tyler Hibbs RHP SS 5-11 160 R R Arundel Odenton MD Tallahassee CC
8 497 Paul Devito LHP OF 6-2 165 R L Arch. Spalding Annapolis MD Radford
9 739 Nick Routt LHP 6-3 185 L L St. John's Silver Spring MD Mississippi State
10 830 Ryan Harris OF RHP 6-4 210 R R Bishop McNamara Clinton MD
11 856 Sander Beck MIF RHP 6-2 195 R R Severn Millersville MD Maryland
12 1004 Leighton Cooper OF 6-0 170 S R Flint Hill Fort Washington MD Notre Dame
13 1137 Carl Travers C MIF/P 5-11 165 R R Riverdale Baptist Huntingtown MD Radford
14 1145 Alex Frederick SS RHP 6-1 180 R R Dulaney cockeyville MD UNC-Greensboro
15 1193 Sean Thompson RHP 6-3 180 R R Bishop Curley Elkridge MD High Point
16 1224 Tyler Bennett C RHP 6-1 190 R R Colonel Richardson Federalsburg MD Maryland
17 1272 Austin Knight MIF 6-0 180 S R Boys Latin School Peisteistown MD
18 1443 Austin Poretz RHP IF 5-8 165 R R St.Mary's Lothian MD
19 1468 Nick Rivers C 1B 6-2 250 R R Dematha Laurel MD Delaware
20 1489 Jason Patten RHP OF 6-0 175 R R Spaulding Davidsonville MD Radford
21 1508 Matthew Markey RHP 3B 5-11 175 R R St Pauls School Kingsville MD
22 1525 Micheal Loeb RHP 6-2 185 R R St. Johns Gaithersburg MD Davidson
23 1575 Hugh Adams RHP 6-5 210 R R St. John's Bethesda MD Florida Atlantic
24 1685 Jeffrey Kemp IF 6-1 175 R R Archbishop Spalding Bowie MD Radford
25 1769 Brian Davila OF 3B 5-10 160 R R Howard Ellicott City MD Lafayette
26 1782 Josh Futter RHP 6-1 193 R R wilde lake columbia MD James Madison
27 1876 Matthew Mack 3B 1B 5-11 195 R R St. John's College Davidsonville MD Radford
28 1888 Jeff Flax MIF C 5-10 155 S R St. Johns North Potomac MD LaSalle
29 1918 William Jarboe RHP 1B 6-7 183 L R South River Davidsonville MD Patrick Henry CC
30 1928 Matthew Hillsinger OF 6-2 160 L R Bowie Bowie MD Radford
31 1961 Kieran Flannery C 3B/MIF/ 6-1 170 R R St. Vincent Pallotti Laurel MD
32 1965 Cory Beahm IF RHP 5-10 160 R R St. John's Burtonsville MD Hartford
33 2022 Kevin Johnson OF 6-1 175 R R Quince Orchard Gaithersburg MD
34 2043 Jason Allinder C OF 5-10 170 R R Snow Hill Pocomoke City MD Niagara
quote:Originally posted by baseballguy:
Here's an updated list from the Perfect Game site showing where the 2008 grads went. While there are a few that do not list a college....I'm guessing they didn't end up in College Park. It's not like the talent in Maryland isn't decent with schools like UVa, Clemson, Coastal, Wake, Miss. State, and Notre Dame, ...along with Radford...picking up a number of the top players. Granted, getting Beck and Bennett is great for Maryland - they should contribute right away. The question is why so many of the top players choose to go elsewhere?
Perfect Games ranking of 2008 Grads from the state of Maryland:
1 45 Danny Hultzen LHP 6-0 180 L L St. Albans Bethesda MD Virginia
2 70 Scott Silverstein LHP 6-5 225 L L St. John's College Brookeville MD Virginia
3 72 LJ Hoes OF IF/P 6-0 190 R R St. John's Mitchellville MD North Carolina
4 75 Kevin Brady RHP 1B 6-3 195 L R Gaithersburg Montgomery Village MD Clemson
5 129 Tommy Winegardner SS RHP 5-11 175 S R Riverdale Baptist St. Leonard MD Coastal Carolina
6 306 Gabriel Feldman RHP 5-11 170 R R Walt Whitman Cabin John MD Wake Forest
7 448 Tyler Hibbs RHP SS 5-11 160 R R Arundel Odenton MD Tallahassee CC
8 497 Paul Devito LHP OF 6-2 165 R L Arch. Spalding Annapolis MD Radford
9 739 Nick Routt LHP 6-3 185 L L St. John's Silver Spring MD Mississippi State
10 830 Ryan Harris OF RHP 6-4 210 R R Bishop McNamara Clinton MD
11 856 Sander Beck MIF RHP 6-2 195 R R Severn Millersville MD Maryland
12 1004 Leighton Cooper OF 6-0 170 S R Flint Hill Fort Washington MD Notre Dame
13 1137 Carl Travers C MIF/P 5-11 165 R R Riverdale Baptist Huntingtown MD Radford
14 1145 Alex Frederick SS RHP 6-1 180 R R Dulaney cockeyville MD UNC-Greensboro
15 1193 Sean Thompson RHP 6-3 180 R R Bishop Curley Elkridge MD High Point
16 1224 Tyler Bennett C RHP 6-1 190 R R Colonel Richardson Federalsburg MD Maryland
17 1272 Austin Knight MIF 6-0 180 S R Boys Latin School Peisteistown MD
18 1443 Austin Poretz RHP IF 5-8 165 R R St.Mary's Lothian MD
19 1468 Nick Rivers C 1B 6-2 250 R R Dematha Laurel MD Delaware
20 1489 Jason Patten RHP OF 6-0 175 R R Spaulding Davidsonville MD Radford
21 1508 Matthew Markey RHP 3B 5-11 175 R R St Pauls School Kingsville MD
22 1525 Micheal Loeb RHP 6-2 185 R R St. Johns Gaithersburg MD Davidson
23 1575 Hugh Adams RHP 6-5 210 R R St. John's Bethesda MD Florida Atlantic
24 1685 Jeffrey Kemp IF 6-1 175 R R Archbishop Spalding Bowie MD Radford
25 1769 Brian Davila OF 3B 5-10 160 R R Howard Ellicott City MD Lafayette
26 1782 Josh Futter RHP 6-1 193 R R wilde lake columbia MD James Madison
27 1876 Matthew Mack 3B 1B 5-11 195 R R St. John's College Davidsonville MD Radford
28 1888 Jeff Flax MIF C 5-10 155 S R St. Johns North Potomac MD LaSalle
29 1918 William Jarboe RHP 1B 6-7 183 L R South River Davidsonville MD Patrick Henry CC
30 1928 Matthew Hillsinger OF 6-2 160 L R Bowie Bowie MD Radford
31 1961 Kieran Flannery C 3B/MIF/ 6-1 170 R R St. Vincent Pallotti Laurel MD
32 1965 Cory Beahm IF RHP 5-10 160 R R St. John's Burtonsville MD Hartford
33 2022 Kevin Johnson OF 6-1 175 R R Quince Orchard Gaithersburg MD
34 2043 Jason Allinder C OF 5-10 170 R R Snow Hill Pocomoke City MD Niagara
Regarding your reference to Maryland players picking Radford. A close look at the recruitment class shows the the Maryland kids were bunched from Saint Johns (Mack) and Spaulding (Devito, Kemp, Patten) High Schools -- The Radford coach has a good relationship with both of the HS coaches --- he was also interested in Routt and Flax but both had committed early to other schools.
Why would a strong player seriously consider playing baseball in a cold weather state that celebrates the parochial game of "lacrosse" as it's primary Spring sport? The state's D1's don't have a single program that fully funds it's baseball program?????????
Towson is the only other D1 program in the state to get a player from the PG list (Thompson), and he signed only after the High Point coach was let go!
The best talent will continue to migrate elsewhere.
Check out the lifetime records of UMBC, Navy, MSM, Towson and Maryland against just the low mid to high mid Southern teams and you'll find an embarrassing W/L history that is not likely to change in backwards "lacrosse crazy" Maryland. Win pct. hovers around .350 against decent competition from the South.
Towson is the only other D1 program in the state to get a player from the PG list (Thompson), and he signed only after the High Point coach was let go!
The best talent will continue to migrate elsewhere.
Check out the lifetime records of UMBC, Navy, MSM, Towson and Maryland against just the low mid to high mid Southern teams and you'll find an embarrassing W/L history that is not likely to change in backwards "lacrosse crazy" Maryland. Win pct. hovers around .350 against decent competition from the South.
quote:Originally posted by baseball12532:
Why would a strong player seriously consider playing baseball in a cold weather state
Short Answer:
To compete in the ACC.
Longer Answer:
To gain exposure as provided from competing
in the ACC.
Longest Answer:
And just think, in the mid 60's-mid 70's,
the herds of baseball talented Baltimore players flocked to College Park to compete at Shipley and
win the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Does this mean the talent in Baltimore is way down?
Other:
Who remembers when the Birds played at Shipley,
the place was packed (5,000) and raised enough funds for three years?
Coach Gottlieb and Coach Jankuska recently
told me each of their programs are fully funded.
Althetic Department at College Park fully funds all Women Sports!
My guess is that UMD will improve its recruitment of in-state pitchers due to Coach Farr.
Not so sure about position players.
Not so sure about position players.
Sometimes coaches promote scholarship totals as "fully-funded" even when it's for only in-state students at a state school. In other words, 11.7 in-state scholarships costs the school much less than 11.7 total scholarships, regardless of where the student-athlete is from.
All the more reason you would expect more talent to stay home, if this is the case at Towson and UMBC.
All the more reason you would expect more talent to stay home, if this is the case at Towson and UMBC.
I agree that they have some decent players by Maryland Standards. Baseball is different the further you go south. Radford isn't a Big Division one school. The reason the coach is coming to Maryland other than having contacts in the state is becasue no blue chip players in the state of VA are going to Radford. I've seen some of the guys recruited on Radfords signing list. A couple of the players could stand out but most will be average or below to Division one standards.
quote:Originally posted by baseballguy:
Without kowing the reasons why - and I am sure they are varied and many - I have to agree with Trepfan. In the '08 class of Perfect Games top 21 ranked prospects from the state of Maryland.....only 2 (both good ones, no doubt) ended up in College Park.
We'll see if the Terps fair any better with the '0I9s.....
quote:Originally posted by baseball12532:
In other words, 11.7 in-state scholarships costs the school much less than 11.7 total scholarships, regardless of where the student-athlete is from.
RR Piper: Ouch (and Trepfan know jack!)
BB...32: Office of the Bursar realigned accounting standards a decade or so ago. In-state dollars vs out of state dollars were normalized for budget purposes.
The enablers for HS baseball players and the trend
toward selection of 'regional' or state colleges include:
- All DI Baseball practices and games begin same time.
- NCAA Scholarhip Transformation
- Reduced Roster size
- No more 'just books' for athletic aid
- Elimination of the 'Free Year' for transfers
The top ten baseball programs probably will not
be affected. (Although the Oregon State case vs the injured baseball player during football season who voluntarily turned back his baseball scholarship at the Baseball Program's request is NOT an isolated case.) Either will the bottom dwellers
# 250 - 295. All others could be. It will
be interesting to observe.
Stay tuned
quote:Originally posted by baseball12532:
Why would a strong player seriously consider playing baseball in a cold weather state ...
This is a question that I asked Kurt Seibert. Kurt was an assistant at Clemson for a while and he did a lot of recruiting for them. He said that he recruited position players from the southern states because they were more experienced from playing virtually year-round. He said that he looked for pitchers in cold weather states because he believed that their arms were fresher and had less wear and tear on them. Right or wrong, I thought it was an intersting perspective.
I am disappointed that lacr*sse has become our new s*ccer in terms of pulling players away. In a lot of ways, I think that both sports have an attraction - particularly to younger players because it keeps them active and allows them do really mix it up for long periods of time. Kids hate baseball practices because the majority of coaches don't keep them moving and don't make it fun. Unless we teach the younger coaches how to do this, our sport is going to continue to be negatively impacted by this trend. Unfortunately experienced baseball coaches tend to treat their knowledge as having the secret keys to the kingdom and they rarely are interested in making younger coaches any better. It's a very short-sighted approach for sure.
While my son is still at least few years away, I think there may be some hope for the future. A few travel teams make regular trips down south and quite a few boys are starting to play in Virginia at younger ages. It was very clear that the kids down south were far ahead of our boys when we would play down there. The boys up here are just as athletic but they just play more down south.
The travel ball is really ramping up with the U13 age groups. In the past teams from Maryland venture south only to get beat up in national AAU or Triple Crown tournaments. Only the U12 Maryland Predators have won any tournament down south recently at the younger ages and it was a silver bracket victory over some very good teams from NC and VA at Triple Crown World Series at Myrtle Beach.
The other thing that I have observed is that down south the public supports their baseball much much better. Montgomery County could care less, with all their money, about the baseball fields. Some of the county fields that are nice like Damascus regional cost a fortune.
Germantown has been running an early spring tournament and typical of Montgomery County, a little rain and they will not allow use of any of their fields so teams get upset and will not come back to support the tournament with all the cancelations.
When you visit the indoor practice facilities in Virginia all you can do is be jealous. They have big contributors that love the kids and love the game so they put up big bucks to support their programs.
I also echo that there has been a lot of poor coaching that has chased away a lot of talent that now plays one of those other two sports. Thankfully the coach my son plays for in Maryland runs a great practice.
This fall my son is playing south for a great program. One of the first things his coach said is that we will go further south to play the best of the best like East Cobb Astros and Charlotte Megastars. Unlikely to get to play Houston Banditos black or San Diego Stars because they are too far away. Have not played them yet but we look forward too down the road. He could not think of one good reason to come north to play in any tournaments up here. I agree
The travel ball is really ramping up with the U13 age groups. In the past teams from Maryland venture south only to get beat up in national AAU or Triple Crown tournaments. Only the U12 Maryland Predators have won any tournament down south recently at the younger ages and it was a silver bracket victory over some very good teams from NC and VA at Triple Crown World Series at Myrtle Beach.
The other thing that I have observed is that down south the public supports their baseball much much better. Montgomery County could care less, with all their money, about the baseball fields. Some of the county fields that are nice like Damascus regional cost a fortune.
Germantown has been running an early spring tournament and typical of Montgomery County, a little rain and they will not allow use of any of their fields so teams get upset and will not come back to support the tournament with all the cancelations.
When you visit the indoor practice facilities in Virginia all you can do is be jealous. They have big contributors that love the kids and love the game so they put up big bucks to support their programs.
I also echo that there has been a lot of poor coaching that has chased away a lot of talent that now plays one of those other two sports. Thankfully the coach my son plays for in Maryland runs a great practice.
This fall my son is playing south for a great program. One of the first things his coach said is that we will go further south to play the best of the best like East Cobb Astros and Charlotte Megastars. Unlikely to get to play Houston Banditos black or San Diego Stars because they are too far away. Have not played them yet but we look forward too down the road. He could not think of one good reason to come north to play in any tournaments up here. I agree
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill L.:
While my son is still at least few years away, I think there may be some hope for the future.
It was very clear that the kids down south were far ahead of our boys when we would play down there. The boys up here are just as athletic but they just play more down south.
In the past teams from Maryland venture south only to get beat up in national AAU or Triple Crown tournaments.
The other thing that I have observed is that down south the public supports their baseball much much better.
Montgomery County could care less, with all their money, about the baseball fields.
Some of the county fields that are nice like Damascus regional cost a fortune.
When you visit the indoor practice facilities in Virginia all you can do is be jealous. They have big contributors that love the kids and love the game so they put up big bucks to support their programs. /QUOTE]
Many points offered, and as many are not my view point.
a) The Maryland ball fields used in the old Clark Griffith League and new Cal Ripken Sr League are soooooo much better than the fields used in Virgina.
That analogy may be similar to comparing
the Florida HS fields to the Maryland fields!
Many of the Florida and Arizona HS fields could
handle a AA club (given AA lighting)
b) "Some of the county fields that are nice like Damascus regional" .......oh please!.
Wheaton Regional, Cabin John, Einstein HS, Springbrook HS, Georgetown Prep, Blake HS, Martin Luther King and others are very playable.
Outside the county, Shipley is a great field, so is Navy, Towson, Arundel HS, Bachman & Joe Cannon.
Let's agree that Damascus regional is playable.
c) The Maryland baseball talent keeps improving
(and long after the Florida boys being thinking
about cars and gals as a priority). I don't recall seeing
a Florida HS player compete after agreeing
to a scholarship in Maryland
d) Every area is cyclic. Hillsborough County (FL)
is the premier hot bed for talent and that has
not been cyclic since ......mid 60's.
e) Your opinion regarding the lack of success of the Maryland youth and amateur teams at National Tournaments level of play is not my view point and requires major adjustment.
f) Given lemons, make lemon-aid
Good luck to your son
While my son is still at least few years away, I think there may be some hope for the future.
It was very clear that the kids down south were far ahead of our boys when we would play down there. The boys up here are just as athletic but they just play more down south.
In the past teams from Maryland venture south only to get beat up in national AAU or Triple Crown tournaments.
The other thing that I have observed is that down south the public supports their baseball much much better.
Montgomery County could care less, with all their money, about the baseball fields.
Some of the county fields that are nice like Damascus regional cost a fortune.
When you visit the indoor practice facilities in Virginia all you can do is be jealous. They have big contributors that love the kids and love the game so they put up big bucks to support their programs. /QUOTE]
Many points offered, and as many are not my view point.
a) The Maryland ball fields used in the old Clark Griffith League and new Cal Ripken Sr League are soooooo much better than the fields used in Virgina.
That analogy may be similar to comparing
the Florida HS fields to the Maryland fields!
Many of the Florida and Arizona HS fields could
handle a AA club (given AA lighting)
b) "Some of the county fields that are nice like Damascus regional" .......oh please!.
Wheaton Regional, Cabin John, Einstein HS, Springbrook HS, Georgetown Prep, Blake HS, Martin Luther King and others are very playable.
Outside the county, Shipley is a great field, so is Navy, Towson, Arundel HS, Bachman & Joe Cannon.
Let's agree that Damascus regional is playable.
c) The Maryland baseball talent keeps improving
(and long after the Florida boys being thinking
about cars and gals as a priority). I don't recall seeing
a Florida HS player compete after agreeing
to a scholarship in Maryland
d) Every area is cyclic. Hillsborough County (FL)
is the premier hot bed for talent and that has
not been cyclic since ......mid 60's.
e) Your opinion regarding the lack of success of the Maryland youth and amateur teams at National Tournaments level of play is not my view point and requires major adjustment.
f) Given lemons, make lemon-aid
Good luck to your son
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quote:Originally posted by Shoeless Joe:
Here we go with bear again. Poor little bear
Hey d-head.
Let's try not to flame this....... much
.....while trying harder to clean it up.
Why is it you know jack about what you say or do?
- I am poor (and with this Bear Market, poorer)
- I am old
- My health sucks.
- I am a lucky guy,
- Believe in Angels
- Pray to the Almighty,
- Try to scout with my eyes and not my ears
- and I am the person my dog thinks I am!
What's your frickin excuse?
But it's very clear to many, if not most, of the following:
1. I have forgotten about more baseball players that I have helped over the many years (at the amateur and pro levels) than you will ever know, see or hear about!
2. I am so much better lookin than you.
3. My 'Baby G' 26 is very accurate.
4. And I sing, especially Billy Preston tunes, so much better than you.
What excuses do have now....
........................ for living?
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From: hsbaseballweb@comcast.net
To: bear2327@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: What is your telephone number?
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:53:18 +0000
Bear,
My number in my home office is 763-***-***x.
I know that you are a good guy and one of the more knowledgeable baseball minds on our site.
I would just like to see what is behind some of the off-beat posts, and clean it up a little.
Thanks,
Julie
MN-Mom, Administrator www.hsbaseballweb.com