If anyone yells at me for starting this thread, I'll remove it.
Watch now. This sport is related to baseball imho. It is mostly mental.
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How can you compare the mental aspect of hitting atiny ball on a tee to the mental aspect of hitting a 99 MPH fastball ?
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
How can you compare the mental aspect of hitting atiny ball on a tee to the mental aspect of hitting a 99 MPH fastball ?
Definitely harder to hit a baseball no doubts or arguments there. I am talking about the mental aspects of succeeding.
CD,
You are so right about the mental part and the need to concentrate, focus and control your emotions.
This is the second very good thread started today in my view.
Please don't remove it.
These two threads and realizing one of our long time posters(one of those quiet ones) son is one of the very best players in college baseball, with the journey that everyone would admire makes this one fine day for me on the HSBBW.
You are so right about the mental part and the need to concentrate, focus and control your emotions.
This is the second very good thread started today in my view.
Please don't remove it.
These two threads and realizing one of our long time posters(one of those quiet ones) son is one of the very best players in college baseball, with the journey that everyone would admire makes this one fine day for me on the HSBBW.
Honestly I had very little trouble hitting a baseball that was coming in there pretty fast, moving and people yelling / screaming. But make it a little smaller, have it sitting still on a tee and nobody saying a word - one of the hardest things I've ever tried to do in sports.
I don't think that anyone would argue that Tiger is the most physically gifted one out on the course. He is playing with zero confidence right now imho. Confidence is the #1 commodity in sports imho. That is where this relates to baseball. How do you get it. How do you find it when you don't currently have it.
Turn on ESPN news where they arre covering both Starburg and Chapman the pitching "phenoms" see what you nee confidence to hit---Chapman has hit 102 already and Strasburg is 97 to 99 consistently
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Never is that so all important than when you're attempting this.
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- "You are so right about the mental part and the need to concentrate, focus and control your emotions."
Never is that so all important than when you're attempting this.
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quote:Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
This sport is related to baseball imho. It is mostly mental.
I agree. I remember hearing a MLB pitcher say he played tons of golf in the off season to keep sharp mentally.
That pitcher was John Smoltz.
Ted Williams to Sam Snead: Baseball is harder. You get to hit a stationary ball. Sam Snead in reply: You don't have to play your foul balls.
TR -
Golf isn't really about hitting the ball. It is about controlling it for 18 holes, from all sorts of different situations, lies, distances, topography and conditions. To make a living at it is at least as hard as making a living playing baseball.
Golf isn't really about hitting the ball. It is about controlling it for 18 holes, from all sorts of different situations, lies, distances, topography and conditions. To make a living at it is at least as hard as making a living playing baseball.
quote:I remember hearing a MLB pitcher say he played tons of golf in the off season to keep sharp mentally.
That pitcher was John Smoltz.
I saw an interview where Tiger said Smoltz is the best non-professional he's ever played in golf...and the only one who walked away with any of Tiger's money. Tiger said he thought Smoltz could be successful on the Sr. Tour.
Phil Mickelson won.
He played great.
He deserves the headlines.
Tiger is a fraud.
He doesnt deserve the headines.
I wouldnt believe anything Tiger says - ever.
He's proven what he is all about.
Congrats Phil !
He played great.
He deserves the headlines.
Tiger is a fraud.
He doesnt deserve the headines.
I wouldnt believe anything Tiger says - ever.
He's proven what he is all about.
Congrats Phil !
quote:Phil Mickelson won.
He played great.
He deserves the headlines.
Tiger is a fraud.
He doesnt deserve the headines.
I wouldnt believe anything Tiger says - ever.
He's proven what he is all about.
I would have to agree with that. All you had to do is watch the interviews after each golfer finished. It's pretty clear to me Tiger's not going to change. It was the "new tiger" before the tournament and the "old tiger" after.
Phil...nothing but class. Boy what a difference a year makes in what your view of these two guys is.
I would love to see golf go red neck. Fans of other golfers allowed to heckle the other guys while they are trying to make a shot. I would love to see less country club mentality and more of a trailer trash red neck setting. Now that would make me want to watch. lol
quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Tiger is a fraud.
He doesnt deserve the headines.
I wouldnt believe anything Tiger says - ever.
He's proven what he is all about.
Congrats Phil !
Would you believe what A-Rod says?
Tiger: Busted for cheating. Admits it. Goes to counseling.
A-Rod: Busted for cheating. Denies it. Then leaves wife.
What makes you think you can believe either one?
Does it really matter if we believe Tiger or not? I could careless honestly about his personal life. Its his business not mine. If I watch him play golf its because I like to see a guy play a game that can play it really well. Its not because I want to see a "great person" play a game that can play it really well.
People buy into these images that are created of sports stars. Folks they are human with the same problems and faults in their personal lives that many other people have. They simply have a gift to play a sport or game very very well. They are built up to be something bigger than others. They are not. They are simply other human beings that can play a game or a sport very very well. It does not make them any more special or in some cases as special as others who we come in contact with on a daily basis.
If you put someone up on a pedastal because they are really good at a sport or game and because the media portrays them as something special as well and then they LET YOU DOWN you are the one with issues imo. Come on they are just a person with a gift to do something we enjoy watching , nothing more nothing less.
I wouldnt walk across the street to see Tiger Woods and meet him as a person. Why? He couldnt hold many of the peoples jocks I know in life and have known. Now would I walk across the street to see him hit a driver? Yes , unless there was a baseball game going on at the same time I could be at.
People buy into these images that are created of sports stars. Folks they are human with the same problems and faults in their personal lives that many other people have. They simply have a gift to play a sport or game very very well. They are built up to be something bigger than others. They are not. They are simply other human beings that can play a game or a sport very very well. It does not make them any more special or in some cases as special as others who we come in contact with on a daily basis.
If you put someone up on a pedastal because they are really good at a sport or game and because the media portrays them as something special as well and then they LET YOU DOWN you are the one with issues imo. Come on they are just a person with a gift to do something we enjoy watching , nothing more nothing less.
I wouldnt walk across the street to see Tiger Woods and meet him as a person. Why? He couldnt hold many of the peoples jocks I know in life and have known. Now would I walk across the street to see him hit a driver? Yes , unless there was a baseball game going on at the same time I could be at.
Just to be clear, Coach May, Tiger put himself on that pedastal....he's gotten exactly what he has coming to him.
I don't have any pity on him. Trust me I don't at all. He was put on that pedastal by the media. He just ran with it like anyone probably would. Athletes , Movie Stars , Entertainers are all put on that pedastal. People go Ga Ga over them and believe they are bigger than life. Then they show us they are just human and people are let down.
He can play the hell out of golf. Congrats your a helluva golfer. Outside of that whats the big deal?
He can play the hell out of golf. Congrats your a helluva golfer. Outside of that whats the big deal?
quote:Originally posted by Coach_May:
I wouldnt walk across the street to see Tiger Woods and meet him as a person. Why? He couldnt hold many of the peoples jocks I know in life and have known. Now would I walk across the street to see him hit a driver? Yes , unless there was a baseball game going on at the same time I could be at.
A few of my friends and I started golfing after Tiger's first Masters run years ago. He brings a little excitement to the game and brought interest to the sport to those of us that felt it could be quite boring at times. I appreciate the fist pump and emotion that he exhibits on the course, and I wish more golfers had that tenacity. With that said, I agree with Coach May, I wouldn't waste my time to walk across the street to visit with him. He's a great golfer and a tremendous athlete, but other than that, he's a human being that still has some issues.
I think that Phil Mickelson should be receiving a lot of love. Jim Nantz made a good comment regarding Phil's lack of tournament wins the last few months while Tiger has been gone...The man has a few things on his mind, like the fact that his wife and mother are both fighting breast cancer. The hug between him and his wife afterwards was moving. I took off to hit with my son, so I missed Phil's interview and the Green Jacket ceremony, but I heard it was nice.
quote:Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
What makes you think you can believe either one?
Just checking for consistency. There's been a lot of Tiger bashing, well deserved I will add, but I don't recall the same intensity when A-Rod got caught.
(When I heard he was sleeping with Madonna, I figured he lost a bet.)
I think it's game on between Tiger and Phil. I believe the old assumption every tournament is Tiger's to win and Phil's to lose is over. I think Phil's going to give Tiger ALL he can handle and then some.
The way Phil has handled his family difficulty vs Tiger creating one is night and day. I hope Phil's bandwagon gets a lot more crowded...he deserves it.
The way Phil has handled his family difficulty vs Tiger creating one is night and day. I hope Phil's bandwagon gets a lot more crowded...he deserves it.
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If he keeps making shots like he did on thirteen then he'll have to order several new bandwagons!
SRO!
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If he keeps making shots like he did on thirteen then he'll have to order several new bandwagons!
SRO!
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Never liked Tiger as a person, but I understand how the intensity helps him be a great golfer. Jack Nicklaus was much the same way on the course. I always root for someone to beat Tiger, but I'm also hoping he's in contention because I'd rather see Els or Mickelson beat Tiger than each other. Unfortunately I'm sure we'll see Tiger beating them more often than not in the future.
quote:CADad quote:
but I understand how the intensity helps him be a great golfer.
While Tigers wears his intensity on his sleeve I'm a firm believer that any competitive athlete who is passionate about his sport has basically the same level of intensity. I'm more impressed with the quality athlete who funnels his intensity in a positive manner.
Besides, because people wear their intensity in different manners, who's to say Tigers intensity is more than any others? Maybe he's just more talented, more often
I've been tired of the Tiger hype for years and only use him as an example of how NOT to act and how NOT to treat people.