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Maybe it's not about the Benjamins?

bsbl247bsbl2471,000+ posts
The Bronx Bombers were just knocked out of the playoffs by the Tigers. The Phillies could possibly be knocked out by the Cards Friday night. The Red Sox were knocked out by the Rays on the last day of the season and did not make the playoffs. The Angels, White Sox, Cubs, Mets, Giants, and Twins also didn't make the playoffs. What's the significance here? Well, these teams had the highest MLB Payrolls for the 2011 season.

The game isn't played on paper. Most of us were looking at the Yankees, Red Sox, and Phillies...thinking Championship! In the NBA, last year the Heat formed the big three with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. We were ready to give the Heat the title before they stepped on the floor, heck, Lebron predicted several titles. This season in the NFL, the Philadelphia Eagles signed some significant free agents and in the preseason they were dubbed the "Dream Team". Through the first four weeks the Eagles are 1-3. This is why I Love sports, you just Never know what's going to happen.

I'm hoping for a Tigers/Cardinals World Series...we'll see what happens?
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TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
I think that we all know that having large payrolls really doesn't always mean championship trophies.

I think it's about momentum, and the Yankees are a great example of losing it before the playoffs. I am not sure if that is what happens when you win your division weeks in advance, does a team lose it's edge and sit back and relax too much?
OFC586DadOFC586Dad100+ posts
While I agree about the highest payrolls not always delivering the best results, don't lose sight of the Tigers' $105M payroll (10th highest in MLB)...it is amazing to me what Tampa Bay does year in and year out with their $41M (29th in MLB)- that's perhaps the most impressive of all! Talk about value for the dollar...

Rooting for a Tigers-Phillies WS - Verlander vs. Halladay would be appointment television.

Go Get 'Em Tigers!
Out in LFOut in LF500+ posts
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Originally posted by OFC586Dad:
While I agree about the highest payrolls not always delivering the best results, don't lose sight of the Tigers' $105M payroll (10th highest in MLB)...it is amazing to me what Tampa Bay does year in and year out with their $41M (29th in MLB)- that's perhaps the most impressive of all! Talk about value for the dollar...


What's sad about the Ray's is they only draw 8-10k fans during the season per game, then when they make the playoffs all these supporters come out to watch them play with all the fan gear they just bought claiming to have been fans all along.
When they put out a very good ball team year in and year out as stated in other posts.
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bsbl247bsbl2471,000+ posts
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Originally posted by OFC586Dad:
While I agree about the highest payrolls not always delivering the best results, don't lose sight of the Tigers' $105M payroll (10th highest in MLB)...it is amazing to me what Tampa Bay does year in and year out with their $41M (29th in MLB)- that's perhaps the most impressive of all! Talk about value for the dollar...

Rooting for a Tigers-Phillies WS - Verlander vs. Halladay would be appointment television.

Go Get 'Em Tigers!


Yes, the Tigers 105M payroll is the 10th highest. The Cardinals (105M) and Rangers (92M) come in at 11th and 13th respectively. The Yankees 205M payroll still dwarfs these teams.

I agree with you in regards to the Rays...serious value for the dollar. My family vacationed in Florida five years ago, and we attended a Red Sox/Rays game at Tropicana Field. There was approximately 25,000 in attendance, and 80% of the house was Boston fans. According to a season ticket holder that was sitting behind me, the average attendance was usually around 10K; granted, this was the pre-Maddon era. I understand the Marlins have a difficult time putting fans in the seats as well? Maybe Ozzie will help to bring some enthusiasm to that community?
bsbl247bsbl2471,000+ posts
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Originally posted by TPM:
I think that we all know that having large payrolls really doesn't always mean championship trophies.

I think it's about momentum, and the Yankees are a great example of losing it before the playoffs. I am not sure if that is what happens when you win your division weeks in advance, does a team lose it's edge and sit back and relax too much?


Yes, I agree that the lack of momentum hurt the Yankees. However, we all know that when it comes to playoff time, pitching wins championships. The Yankees are not as deep in pitching as they've been in the past, JMO.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
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Originally posted by bsbl247:
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Originally posted by TPM:
I think that we all know that having large payrolls really doesn't always mean championship trophies.

I think it's about momentum, and the Yankees are a great example of losing it before the playoffs. I am not sure if that is what happens when you win your division weeks in advance, does a team lose it's edge and sit back and relax too much?


Yes, I agree that the lack of momentum hurt the Yankees. However, we all know that when it comes to playoff time, pitching wins championships. The Yankees are not as deep in pitching as they've been in the past, JMO.


I give Girardi credit for putting in a young rookie, he did give up two single HR's but as noted his offense never came through for him.

This is just my opinion, but seems like Sabathia is much heavier than I can ever remember and I am not sure that weight suits him. I do know that he is getting older, but that shouldn't be an excuse at 31.
RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
Large payrolls don't guarantee a championship. They do guarantee being in the hunt every year. The more often a team is in the hunt the more likely they are to win a championship.

I've read the Red Sox philosophy (from the current management) is to be in the hunt every year which should lead to a couple of championships. This was stated after the first championship.

But, any team on a hot streak or with strong pitching (the Giants last year) can win any time they're in the hunt.
MN-MomMN-MomHSBaseballWeb Owner
RJM,

"Large payrolls don't guarantee a championship. They do guarantee being in the hunt every year."

You are probably correct in general, but the 2011 Twins aren't backing up your theory...

9th highest payroll at $112 Million, and their 2011 record was... 63 wins, 99 losses... second worst in all of baseball. Ouch, ouch, ouch. I mean it, that re-e-e-eally hurts!
Frown

Julie

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