Mechanics Question

F5 will cover 3rd.

Okay made you look, unless the BU is hurt, really, really tired, he/she will take the BR all the way.


that made me laugh....agreed...one runner one umpire...take the runner into third

I agree, this is BU all the way.

The proper mechanic is for BU to bust in and take the B/R all the way.

The old saying is One Runner, One Umpire (except, of course, in the case of a rundown).

BTW, what mechanics book were you reviewing?

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Originally posted by jjk:
F5 will cover 3rd.

Okay made you look, unless the BU is hurt, really, really tired, he/she will take the BR all the way.


that made me laugh....agreed...one runner one umpire...take the runner into third

Good one jj. If BU went out on the triple, PU has BR at least to 3rd. Otherwise, he's BU's.

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Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
Two man system- No runners on base, batter hits a triple - who is going to cover third?
I was reviewing an umpiring mechanics book and this was a question to be asked pre-game with your partner. How do you handle this?

POLO: Perhaps this coverage is mentioned in a pre-game, but it would never be a question - it's a very basic given. Sounds like you need a new manual.

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The PBUC (MiLB) Manual is also an excellent choice.

The FED manual may have once (or still does) have BU taking the B/R only to 2nd (assuming he doesn't go out on the ball), but you will never see that mechanic taught at any reputable school or clinic. It makes no sense - even an old heap like me should be able to stay ahead of the fastest runner all the way to 3rd, and if the ball gets away on an overthrow or deflection, you have the very real possibility of a play at the plate with PU out of position.

The only times PU should rotate to 3rd base are: 1) a base hit (or any ball that goes into the outfield) with R1 or R1 & R3, and there is a play at 3rd on R1, and; 2) R1, R2, less than 2 outs, R2 tags up on a fly ball (except a fly ball to F9 moving toward the line).

Dash,
I have that CCA Baseball Umpires Manual 2009, also this is a FED and it was a piece on pre-game talking and to make sure to go ovet situations.

The source of this question is "Smart Baseball Umpiring" How to get better every game an NFHS publication 2009. On page 27 under the topic "am I open minded" it says to ask the question ( Which umpire covers third on a triple with no runners for a two man crew)AND that there are disadvantages either way.
The way I have always done this is BU all the way to third, HP up the line 1/3 the way to third and cover home.

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Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
The source of this question is "Smart Baseball Umpiring" How to get better every game an NFHS publication 2009. On page 27 under the topic "am I open minded" it says to ask the question ( Which umpire covers third on a triple with no runners for a two man crew)AND that there are disadvantages either way.
The way I have always done this is BU all the way to third, HP up the line 1/3 the way to third and cover home.

No need to go 1/3 up the baseline. The only thing you have is the touch if he continues and, if he does, you better be at home.

Here is the proper mechanic for the FED umpire manual. Open the envelope, remove the manual, step to the trash can, deposit manual.

If you really want to understand the whys and wherefores of mechanics, buy Jim Evans new Book: Maximizing the Two Umpire System. It not only covers the mechanic for every conceivable situation, it covers every move an umpire could make from the time he enters the field until he leaves it. As a friend put it, this book is to the Red Book what the JEA is to the Rule book.

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:

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Originally posted by POLOGREEN:
The source of this question is "Smart Baseball Umpiring" How to get better every game an NFHS publication 2009. On page 27 under the topic "am I open minded" it says to ask the question ( Which umpire covers third on a triple with no runners for a two man crew)AND that there are disadvantages either way.
The way I have always done this is BU all the way to third, HP up the line 1/3 the way to third and cover home.

"Smart baweball umpiring" and FED publications are, at best, casual acquaintances.

No need to go 1/3 up the baseline. The only thing you have is the touch if he continues and, if he does, you better be at home.

Here is the proper mechanic for the FED umpire manual. Open the envelope, remove the manual, step to the trash can, deposit manual.

If you really want to understand the whys and wherefores of mechanics, buy Jim Evans new Book: Maximizing the Two Umpire System. It not only covers the mechanic for every conceivable situation, it covers every move an umpire could make from the time he enters the field until he leaves it. As a friend put it, this book is to the Red Book what the JEA is to the Rule book.

Under the topic of "am I opened minded" sure this is a good topic to discuss. But the basic is BU.

I've taken 3rd many times due to a partners bad hammy, ankle or ?, but indeed we discussed it, either pre game or as needed.
I'm leaving the age thing out, cause I just slammed into 50 last week. Been on the DL going on my 3rd week..
Achilles, doc says 6-8 more..

Question, how did the below get into my OP? Just wondering, I didn't type it?

"that made me laugh....agreed...one runner one umpire...take the runner into third