Missing High School to play baseball...is that bad?

Smitty28 posted:

CaCO3Girl posted:

Bolts-Coach-PR posted:

CaCO3Girl posted:

With the consideration that my kid is NOT in a bunch of honors and AP classes, I don't see the harm in him taking 3 days off to go to Ft. Myers.

Thank you everyone for your answers!

My kid took ALL AP and honors classes... Zero of them mattered or were transferable to the D1 he committed to... So he had that goin' for him, which was nice... Gunga galunga...

And I'm sure with all those AP and honors classes he had LOADS of freetime outside of baseball to be a kid.  Wow, how useless!

I hope this is sarcasm.  Taking a rigorous HS curriculum (including AP and honors) prepares a kid better for college, and he's got a better chance of doing well in college.  Not all colleges give credit for APs but if they don't they will allow him to skip intro classes and go straight to more advance classes and graduate with a better resume.

To be honest it wasn’t sarcasm.  It is a case of to each their own, in my sons case, well, I think our society as a whole is missing the point of childhood.  We went from not having a childhood because we were working on the farm, to too much childhood with peace and love and all that, to the present day let’s turn 15 year olds into walking encyclopedias.  

I’ll admit there is a fine line to walk here, BUT, I don’t see the point in overloading a kid with 6 AP classes plus high level baseball and throw in a musical instrument and foreign language so they are more well rounded....um, they have their heads in books they aren’t well rounded people.  Childish things are needed when you are a child and while I’m all for pushing kids I’m not okay with the rigor of today’s classes.  I don’t see the point with a 15 year old working harder than me, and I’m a research and development chemist.

Being 52 and having never had the opportunity to face that dilemma myself, I can only tell my kids what I think is best for them.

Get out of college as fast as you can, for as little $$$ as possible (for me)! If that makes me a selfish bastard, so be it. My kids will leave college without a penny of student because I am the bank. The benefit of them getting done quickly means I can start living my golden years sooner.  They need to get that experience in while the bank still is willing to pay for it.

I'm not paying for an "experience," for them, I'm paying for their educations. If they want an experience, they can walk across a game preserve with meat strapped to them. That'll give them a story to tell their own kids one day.

CaCO3Girl posted:

Smitty28 posted:

CaCO3Girl posted:

Bolts-Coach-PR posted:

CaCO3Girl posted:

With the consideration that my kid is NOT in a bunch of honors and AP classes, I don't see the harm in him taking 3 days off to go to Ft. Myers.

Thank you everyone for your answers!

My kid took ALL AP and honors classes... Zero of them mattered or were transferable to the D1 he committed to... So he had that goin' for him, which was nice... Gunga galunga...

And I'm sure with all those AP and honors classes he had LOADS of freetime outside of baseball to be a kid.  Wow, how useless!

I hope this is sarcasm.  Taking a rigorous HS curriculum (including AP and honors) prepares a kid better for college, and he's got a better chance of doing well in college.  Not all colleges give credit for APs but if they don't they will allow him to skip intro classes and go straight to more advance classes and graduate with a better resume.

To be honest it wasn’t sarcasm.  It is a case of to each their own, in my sons case, well, I think our society as a whole is missing the point of childhood.  We went from not having a childhood because we were working on the farm, to too much childhood with peace and love and all that, to the present day let’s turn 15 year olds into walking encyclopedias.  

I’ll admit there is a fine line to walk here, BUT, I don’t see the point in overloading a kid with 6 AP classes plus high level baseball and throw in a musical instrument and foreign language so they are more well rounded....um, they have their heads in books they aren’t well rounded people.  Childish things are needed when you are a child and while I’m all for pushing kids I’m not okay with the rigor of today’s classes.  I don’t see the point with a 15 year old working harder than me, and I’m a research and development chemist.

That's gonna get some responses.

We had this basic philosophy but with the caveat that our kids needed to take a rigorous course each term. My daughter took more APs because in all honesty she wasn't in as competitive a sporting environment as my son, even though she was a 4-yr varsity letter winner in field hockey. She didn't play club or pursue it in college.

GaryMe posted:

Being 52 and having never had the opportunity to face that dilemma myself, I can only tell my kids what I think is best for them.

Get out of college as fast as you can, for as little $$$ as possible (for me)! If that makes me a selfish bastard, so be it. My kids will leave college without a penny of student because I am the bank. The benefit of them getting done quickly means I can start living my golden years sooner.  They need to get that experience in while the bank still is willing to pay for it.

I'm not paying for an "experience," for them, I'm paying for their educations. If they want an experience, they can walk across a game preserve with meat strapped to them. That'll give them a story to tell their own kids one day.

Ah, and there is another twist.  I'll pay off his loans if he gets a degree I'll pay 4 years worth.  If he doesn't, then he pays.  It's a good incentive.

I'm somewhere in the middle on this.  If you aren't able to get As in the AP classes, I don't think it is at all worth loading up to be stressed out and get a lower gpa.  Unless you are going pretty high academic, it doesn't matter that much as long as you have a few.  My daughter took dual credit and walked into college with 24 hours.  They took everything and we told her she needed to graduate in 3 years.  She picked a pricey school and we told her that we weren't going to pay for an extra year of good time.  That's part of making mature decisions.  We also don't send her spending money.  All of her meals are paid for with her meal plan and she has all living expenses covered in the dorm. I think you are supposed to be poor in college, eat some ramen noodles and learn to toughen up a bit...or get a job My son was taking quite a few AP classes until he knew where he was going and what they required and then he backed off some (still taking at least 1 AP a year)  and started taking dual credit classes. I think balance is lost a lot of the time.  I let my kids miss a day or two as experiences are just as valuable as sitting in a classroom.

baseballhs posted:

I'm somewhere in the middle on this.  If you aren't able to get As in the AP classes, I don't think it is at all worth loading up to be stressed out and get a lower gpa.  Unless you are going pretty high academic, it doesn't matter that much as long as you have a few.  My daughter took dual credit and walked into college with 24 hours.  They took everything and we told her she needed to graduate in 3 years.  She picked a pricey school and we told her that we weren't going to pay for an extra year of good time.  That's part of making mature decisions.  We also don't send her spending money.  All of her meals are paid for with her meal plan and she has all living expenses covered in the dorm. I think you are supposed to be poor in college, eat some ramen noodles and learn to toughen up a bit...or get a job My son was taking quite a few AP classes until he knew where he was going and what they required and then he backed off some (still taking at least 1 AP a year)  and started taking dual credit classes. I think balance is lost a lot of the time.  I let my kids miss a day or two as experiences are just as valuable as sitting in a classroom.

Ha...I took a photo of your response and sent it to my wife.  My daughter has been dropping hints about going a 4th year and my response was identical to yours.  Glad I'm not the only one..

old_school posted:

so here is the question. at 90 plus years and you have lived your life, what do think matters more graduating from college in 3 years and saving 55k or having an awesome college experience, preparing for life and figuring out a way for that to take 4.5 years!!

it is no brainer, 3 years of college would leave me feeling cheated!! you can always make more money tomorrow, you childhood is limited! Stretch if for as long as reasonably able!!!!!

Maybe.  Or maybe the person graduating in 3 years puts his/her life on a trajectory of success that is not attainable to one who takes their time and parties through school.  To each his own, but those that put in the work more often then not attain more than those who don't put in the work.

Sorry Old_School, never saw your post.  Yeah, I hear you and it's something I think about often.  My daughter got into schools offering money, honor degrees and the like.  Part of the decision process was 3 years here, 4 years there and we let her make the decision.  But it is still tough to hold her to it.

I stated “the question is” and then for me it is no brained. As guy who never took a college class, got kick around a bit, has started a few different businesses and by hard work, some luck and calculated risk have made some money.... if I could it all over again and go to school for 4 or 5 years for 40 or 50k a year is an easy call.

Smitty it is not anywhere as clear cut as you think but I will agree with you in that I love hiring those smart motivated kids. They make me look good!! I don’t care how many years they are in school...with in reason of course.