Concept A: .... look in to how your summer team's affiliation runs their post season... if you do not like it do not play on a team that has that affiliation...
concept 2: if you do not like paying for your son's summer coach (his "salary") then either do not play on a team who's caoch gets paid, OR concept D: start your own team....
really quite simple....
or I guess you could let your son play whereever and when you do not like the outcome, just complain, beotch or moan....
deviled eggs - this is none of my business....but I can see why this parent is frustrated about the repeat out of town travel...for working parents this select baseball travel can get very tricky. The only parents I see that can really juggle all the travel are those that are self-employed and don't have to ask the boss for time off every week... and I suspect they are missing out on business by foregoing their day jobs...JMO
cheapseats -- you are right on target, as usual. The summer season makes it challenging at w*rk. I always hate it when w*rk gets in the way of baseball! 
quote:The summer season makes it challenging at w*rk. I always hate it when w*rk gets in the way of baseball!
I guess im lucky and have a lot of vacation time that I can use for times like this. The problem I'm having is paying for my Chevron bill!!!!
Make time to watch your son play now because in a couple of years you'll wish you had.
You should try doing it as a single parent with
3 kids!!!
I am very lucky to have a very understanding
boss, and a lot of vacation days, I save up
all year.
And I still have to dip into my retirement, sometimes to make ends meet.
But I am sure the time with my son out weighs
all of the hardship, I wouldn't want to miss
a minute of it all!
3 kids!!!
I am very lucky to have a very understanding
boss, and a lot of vacation days, I save up
all year.
And I still have to dip into my retirement, sometimes to make ends meet.
But I am sure the time with my son out weighs
all of the hardship, I wouldn't want to miss
a minute of it all!
quote:Originally posted by Diablo con Huevos:
Concept A: .... look in to how your summer team's affiliation runs their post season... if you do not like it do not play on a team that has that affiliation...
concept 2: if you do not like paying for your son's summer coach (his "salary") then either do not play on a team who's coach gets paid, OR concept D: start your own team....
really quite simple....
or I guess you could let your son play whereever and when you do not like the outcome, just complain, beotch or moan....
Concept A: I have never had to do check into my summer team's affiliation. We get a tounament list that shows dates and locations prior to the season starting. Looking at my list right now it shows "AABC State Tounament - McKinney". I don't see HOUSTON anywhere on the sheet.
Concept B: No, I don't like paying my son's summer coach. Maybe it's good ol' day syndrome from when coaches didn't get paid. They coached because they loved the game. They wanted to pass along what they learned for free. There is a former high school coach, whose son is listed quite frequently on this website, whom I asked "why don't you give lessons during the summer for extra money?". His reply "why am I going to charge someone for something I was taught for free." I thought it was a great reply. Maybe something people should think about.
But it's just like gasoline prices, I don't have to like the prices but if I want to get somewhere fast then I have no choice but to pay the prices.
Concept C?: don't see a concept here?
Concept D: Yeah right! That would be the comedic perfomance of the century. Just like 95% of the people who post on this forum. I am a Dad who loves to watch his son play baseball. I also understand that I have two more years to do so while he is in my home and not off at college hopefully still playing.
Diablo, I'm not the only one this team who has a problem with this. I'm just the only one who will publicly "beotch" about it. If you can't see what I was trying to say was there are too many teams in the brackets in the Dallas area with byes and my son's team, who is from Dallas, has to travel to Houston to play even though there are places for them to play here. That is what I'm talking about!
Now for you,
Concept A: Get a grip. Look at the common sense of the circumstance before you go throw out rediculous "Concepts"!!!
Thank you Cheapseats, PD, FBM, skysthelimit, and all the other people out there who actually can understand what I'm talking about!!!
Out of Town Tournaments
$160 Hotel
$200 Gas
$50 Food
$15-30 on Misc items
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Watching your child hit a single or even fly-out .... PRICELESS...for everything else there's
Mastercard.
I had to make fun of a serious topic. I know what Ringer1 is going through. I have told my company, come summer time I will hand them a schedule and pretty much do not expect me to be there on Thursday's and Friday's and there will be a week or two straight that I will not be in.
$160 Hotel
$200 Gas
$50 Food
$15-30 on Misc items
---------------------
Watching your child hit a single or even fly-out .... PRICELESS...for everything else there's
Mastercard.
I had to make fun of a serious topic. I know what Ringer1 is going through. I have told my company, come summer time I will hand them a schedule and pretty much do not expect me to be there on Thursday's and Friday's and there will be a week or two straight that I will not be in.
I work for my families business and I can pretty much go as I please as long as I have everything covered on my end of things. That was a general consensus question.
Financially I did not budget for three nights in Houston. I planned on scheduling my meetings around ballgames, eating at home, and sleeping in my own bed.
MASTERCARDS maxed out!
Financially I did not budget for three nights in Houston. I planned on scheduling my meetings around ballgames, eating at home, and sleeping in my own bed.
MASTERCARDS maxed out!
whaaaaaaaaaa!
The same people that complain about Ringer1 making a point are the same people that complain that Select Baseball is becoming very elitist.
I don't know how "regular" working people do it. My job offers a lot of freedom in my schedule and I have a very understanding boss. The people that work regular 9-5 type jobs I can see having a very difficult time.
I don't know how "regular" working people do it. My job offers a lot of freedom in my schedule and I have a very understanding boss. The people that work regular 9-5 type jobs I can see having a very difficult time.
quote:Concept A: I have never had to do check into my summer team's affiliation. We get a tounament list that shows dates and locations prior to the season starting. Looking at my list right now it shows "AABC State Tounament - McKinney". I don't see HOUSTON anywhere on the sheet.
Two separate state tournaments were originally scheduled to be played in McKinney. However, due to the condition of McKinney North's field and the amount of work needed it was decided that only one could be hosted in McKinney. AABC North Texas director took back the 16s and left the 15s in McKinney. Just one of those unfortunate things.
DBAT GM was/is correct about the berths for state tournaments.
quote:Originally posted by Ringer1:
DBAT 18 GM,
But still look at all the first round byes in the Dallas area. Give the Houston area more berths and let the Dallas teams fill up the byes here in Dallas. You're still going to have one winner in Dallas and one winner in Houston. I know there are enough teams in Houston's league to take up those spots.
I don't believe in first round byes anyway. The teams with the weaker pitching staffs only get weaker in that kind of format. But that's another thread.
Believe me the last thing you want in an AABC bracket is to recieve the first round bye. This is not usually an advantage. Always hope to pull that last bye when there are 3 teams left.
Sorry to get off topic. Does anyone have any predictions for these state tourneys?
Ringer... all i can say is deal with it or start your own team and play in DFW all summer...
i love how a large chunk of society always likes to place blame somewhere else on someone else...
ahhhhh, select baseball....
i love how a large chunk of society always likes to place blame somewhere else on someone else...
ahhhhh, select baseball....
quote:However, due to the condition of McKinney North's field and the amount of work needed it was decided that only one could be hosted in McKinney.
MMWS,
I guess Coach Milam must have left for Boyd so he wouldn't have to do work on the field!!
quote:Originally posted by Diablo con Huevos:
Ringer... all i can say is deal with it or start your own team and play in DFW all summer...
i love how a large chunk of society always likes to place blame somewhere else on someone else...
ahhhhh, select baseball....
Diablo,
Why can't you understand what I'm talking about? There are five byes in the DFW area. But instead my son's team has been sent to Houston. This location was not on my tournament list. McKinney was. WHY CAN'T WE PLAY IN THE DALLAS AREA WHEN THERE ARE SPOTS AVAILABLE? That is my question. Why make people spend their hard earned money when they shouldn't have to?
And the only people I am blaming are the people who made these brackets. They should be blamed!
What's done is done. I'm hoping the people who put these brackets together read this and do not make this mistake again.
I can't disagree with you Ringer. People have lives, deadlines, and families. It's unfortunate that you have to "deal with it," but I guess you do. Let us know how it goes though. Winning it might make it a little more worth while, so much so you can go BACK to Houston. Talk about some heat. I must say, I was down there last year, I'm just going to say sorry now.
I'm not asking for anyone to feel sorry for me. I just want an answer.
I've been hoping MMWS would answer the question but he kind of tip toed around it.
I've been hoping MMWS would answer the question but he kind of tip toed around it.
The stupid simple answer is.... it's AABC... there's got to be something wrong/weird/messed up about it.
It's quite easy to be cynical. If I try to look at things from a neutral point-of-view, I might conclude that there are too many state tournaments. Why not play a 16-team "north" state and a 16 team "south" state -- mix in West Texas if there is enough interest. This would set up a smaller regional playoff -- perhaps 4 teams -- imagine that! IMO, there are too many state births. Without criticizing those that worked hard to make BBI Premier work (and I believe it is indeed a great league), do all nine teams really deserve a state birth? Naaa.
Why not rotate the location of the regional tournament in all age groups -- thereby reducing the late season out-of-town commitment?
You all can take sides on Ringer's issue ---- consider his complaint as whining or whatever ---- but his point is simple and really quite obvious ---- and there is no good reason to send a Dallas team to Houston for consecutive weeks (if they win state). I don't think this case is a conspiracy, it is just wrong.
AABC directors --- you run one of the most prestigious season-ending events. I imagine you all are volunteers that work harder than anyone knows, for free! I met one of the MMWS directors at a playoff game --- he's a great guy. In this case, common sense should prevail.
JMO.
Why not rotate the location of the regional tournament in all age groups -- thereby reducing the late season out-of-town commitment?
You all can take sides on Ringer's issue ---- consider his complaint as whining or whatever ---- but his point is simple and really quite obvious ---- and there is no good reason to send a Dallas team to Houston for consecutive weeks (if they win state). I don't think this case is a conspiracy, it is just wrong.
AABC directors --- you run one of the most prestigious season-ending events. I imagine you all are volunteers that work harder than anyone knows, for free! I met one of the MMWS directors at a playoff game --- he's a great guy. In this case, common sense should prevail.
JMO.
Ringer........ I've got absolutely nothing to do with it and I didn't tip toe around anything. I can't tip toe around something that I don't know. I understand your frustration, but if you see something that needs to be improved, then jump right in and volunterr to help out. Maybe serve as a host for a state tournament, secure the fields needed, acquire the umpires, prep the fields, and everything else that is involved with running a tournament.
Richard Holt is the North Texas guy for AABC. From my dealings with Richard, he's a straight shooter.......... with an amazing personality.
Richard does things by the book. He's saved my butt a time or two.
OP........Coach Milam has nothing to do with it. The field at North goes to **** EVERY summer since that field was built. MISD is the problem from what I see / hear.
Richard Holt is the North Texas guy for AABC. From my dealings with Richard, he's a straight shooter.......... with an amazing personality.
Richard does things by the book. He's saved my butt a time or two.OP........Coach Milam has nothing to do with it. The field at North goes to **** EVERY summer since that field was built. MISD is the problem from what I see / hear.
Did one of the teams drop out of the Super 8 tournament in Burleson? I see the schedule has been changed and teams moved around.
You all can take sides on Ringer's issue ---- consider his complaint as whining or whatever ---- but his point is simple and really quite obvious ---- and there is no good reason to send a Dallas team to Houston for consecutive weeks (if they win state). I don't think this case is a conspiracy, it is just wrong.
AABC directors --- you run one of the most prestigious season-ending events. I imagine you all are volunteers that work harder than anyone knows, for free! I met one of the MMWS directors at a playoff game --- he's a great guy. In this case, common sense should prevail.
JMO.[/QUOTE]
This will be my last reply on this subject since I feel PD said it all.
MMWS, the tip toe comment was to get you out of the woodwork and maybe give me an expaination. I still don't have one and I honestly don't believe there is one. It wasn't a slam on you personally. I know MOST of you are volunteers and I commend people like you who take the time out of their lives to put on tournaments year round. I don't have the desire to and the majority people on this forum don't either.
Ringer1 son leaves tonight for Houston. All I can do now is pray he and his team have a safe trip and play hard. Hopefully, we go to Houston again next week. I WILL NOT miss that trip since I had some notice this time!!!
AABC directors --- you run one of the most prestigious season-ending events. I imagine you all are volunteers that work harder than anyone knows, for free! I met one of the MMWS directors at a playoff game --- he's a great guy. In this case, common sense should prevail.
JMO.[/QUOTE]
This will be my last reply on this subject since I feel PD said it all.
MMWS, the tip toe comment was to get you out of the woodwork and maybe give me an expaination. I still don't have one and I honestly don't believe there is one. It wasn't a slam on you personally. I know MOST of you are volunteers and I commend people like you who take the time out of their lives to put on tournaments year round. I don't have the desire to and the majority people on this forum don't either.
Ringer1 son leaves tonight for Houston. All I can do now is pray he and his team have a safe trip and play hard. Hopefully, we go to Houston again next week. I WILL NOT miss that trip since I had some notice this time!!!
Ringer1 - we all have children that play sports and I'm sure we all feel for you -but- why don't you take this issue to your coach and have him go through the proper channels instead of coming on here and pointing fingers and trying to get good people to "come out of the woodwork" to give you an explanation that you somehow think you are owed. Be an adult here and realize that not always is it someone else's fault. The person accountable is your son's coach and he is accountable to the kids and the parents on your Driller team. Period. He had to have made the call to take them to AABc and to Houston. Nobody forced him to take his team to Houston. There are many other options out there for post season play - including not playing at all.quote:Originally posted by Ringer1:
MMWS, the tip toe comment was to get you out of the woodwork and maybe give me an expaination. I still don't have one and I honestly don't believe there is one.
Woe is me is bull. Stop whining and do something about it like MMWS said but please spare us from your pathetic nonsense.
Ok, one more time!
Oppo,
So what you are telling me is that if your son's team was sent to Houston this week to play you would not have a problem with it? Even though there are five teams in the DFW area that have byes. Look at the Fort Worth bracket...there is only one team that has a bye. Why not put us there to fill up the bracket? Can you not see the common sense here?
Oppo,
So what you are telling me is that if your son's team was sent to Houston this week to play you would not have a problem with it? Even though there are five teams in the DFW area that have byes. Look at the Fort Worth bracket...there is only one team that has a bye. Why not put us there to fill up the bracket? Can you not see the common sense here?
quote:Originally posted by Ringer1:
Ok, one more time!
Oppo,
So what you are telling me is that if your son's team was sent to Houston this week to play you would not have a problem with it? Even though there are five teams in the DFW area that have byes. Look at the Fort Worth bracket...there is only one team that has a bye. Why not put us there to fill up the bracket? Can you not see the common sense here?
It's time for this thread to die. Talk about beating a dead horse. Maybe the "PD" should close this thread.
I agree!!! I'm DONE!!!!!!!