(it's no more a bad word than liberal, btw.)
I won't post the link, but Jon Stewart did a great piece on Socialism.... lol
(it's no more a bad word than liberal, btw.)
(it's no more a bad word than liberal, btw.)
I don't know what the hell you are talking about. My issue is our public schools are becoming more about indoctrination and social issues than education. Kids are pushed through with a sense of high self esteem that's undeserved. Then with the grade inflation that exists in college they graduate with a 3.0 just by being conscious. Then they feel entitled to a high pay job. This has to end. It's why this country has to import people from other countries to fill jobs in the fields of science and technology. It's why the country is falling behind the world academically. I'm not againt legal immigration to fill jobs. But I would rather see Americans earn the right to fill these positions.quote:Originally posted by junior5:
RJM,
Seriously, just stop...
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Others are emigrating to America and taking their place at the top universities and top technical and scientific jobs. Once the immigrants are citizens it's just padding the stats against the reality of the situation.
I want to see the kids going through the public schools in this country getting the quality education. I want them to be prepared for college. I want them to be qualified for the top jobs when they graduate. Right now it's not the case. Kids are getting too much indoctrination and not enough education in our public schools.
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You posted both of these things, and they are both outrageous!!!! If the kids aren't getting the education they need, they are not trying hard enough to do so!
Let me ask a question...
How many schools have one, just one teacher, who is willing to help a student outside of the classroom, on their time?
I'm sure the answer is almost every single school, public or private, in the nation.
I see countless times on this site people getting ripped to shreds because they WANT their kid to get more playing time, and they are probably not getting that playing time because they don't deserve it.
Yet, you are willing to say that someone who doesn't deserve a spot at a top school from the United States should get it just because they are from the United States.
This is outrageous the amount of hypocritical statements that some people on this site make blows my mind.
I do NOT know why working for something on the baseball field is completely different from working for something off of it.
That's probably the reason for the amount of Latin players in the MLB though huh? It is all because they are immigrants.
If you didn't reach somewhere you think you should have, you obviously didn't work hard enough!!
This is the EXACT reason foreign countries hate Americans, because they think we all have a sense of entitlement
On another note, making money in life isn't the statistic for being successful. Just if many of you forgot that point. If I had a dollar for every person I knew who at one time in their life made a decision based on money and were miserable, I would be a very wealthy man.
I'll just stop talking finish up my math with an secondary ed. endorsement at a liberal arts school and just laugh when I'm done.
Good Bye hsbbweb, I'll be back when people hop off their pedestal of entitlement!
There are certain professions it's a requirement. But other than those professions a student should put himself in the position to be marketable. Many people don't go to grad school until after starting work.quote:Originally posted by Matt13:quote:Originally posted by RJM:
You're assuming every kid is going to spend an additional two to four years in grad school. That's more expense.
That's going to happen with a lot of degrees, regardless of if they're liberal arts or not.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
There are certain professions it's a requirement. But other than those professions a student should put himself in the position to be marketable. Many people don't go to grad school until after starting work.
You are correct. I do disagree in your assessment that liberal-arts degrees are less marketable at the baccalaureate level, particularly since the US economy's shift from manufacturing.
When you say...
I want to see the kids going through the public schools in this country getting the quality education. I want them to be prepared for college. I want them to be qualified for the top jobs when they graduate. Right now it's not the case. Kids are getting too much indoctrination and not enough education in our public schools.
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Well the immigrants want it more than the people of our nation so I don't see what is wrong with them getting what they are earning. Sometimes in life the best lesson is learned from failure. Looks like people my age who are getting through highschool by showing up will learn the hard way.
I want to see the kids going through the public schools in this country getting the quality education. I want them to be prepared for college. I want them to be qualified for the top jobs when they graduate. Right now it's not the case. Kids are getting too much indoctrination and not enough education in our public schools.
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Well the immigrants want it more than the people of our nation so I don't see what is wrong with them getting what they are earning. Sometimes in life the best lesson is learned from failure. Looks like people my age who are getting through highschool by showing up will learn the hard way.
quote:Originally posted by 55mom:
I won't post the link, but Jon Stewart did a great piece on Socialism.... lol
(it's no more a bad word than liberal, btw.)
Yeah, Stewart puts out a GREAT dialog on the "Good Kind" and "Bad Kind" of Socialism. He's been doing it for years to point out the value of moderate thought. He loves to catch people's inconsistencies when they live out at the extreme end of the liberal/conservative spectrum - extremists are like a playground for guys like Stewart.
He's one of the best political satirists out there, and one of the most intelligent, IMO. You should go look at all his stuff on Socialism, and then see if you can guess whether he would support/criticize the subject in question.
Would love to do that debate, but it would draw the usual wailing about how this site has gone to the dogs/we're here to talk baseball/when did this becomes a political forum, blahblahblah...
Maybe when this thread gets moved to Unusually Unusual, so it can all be OK again...
Any...
Minute....
Now....???
I agree if the immigrants want it more they get it. I don't like the American education process isn't fixing the problem. The president of the AFT was asked about the students in America. His response was when they join a union and pay dues he'll be concerned about them. Does anyone else see a problem with this statement? Education has become about employing teachers over educating kids.quote:Originally posted by junior5:
When you say...
I want to see the kids going through the public schools in this country getting the quality education. I want them to be prepared for college. I want them to be qualified for the top jobs when they graduate. Right now it's not the case. Kids are getting too much indoctrination and not enough education in our public schools.
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Well the immigrants want it more than the people of our nation so I don't see what is wrong with them getting what they are earning. Sometimes in life the best lesson is learned from failure. Looks like people my age who are getting through highschool by showing up will learn the hard way.
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
I agree if the immigrants want it more they get it. I don't like the American education process isn't fixing the problem. The president of the AFT was asked about the students in America. His response was when they join a union and pay dues he'll be concerned about them. Does anyone else see a problem with this statement? Education has become about employing teachers over educating kids.
Cite?
