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Halfmoon,

This is slightly before my time and thus, the names are not too familiar (born in 1960). That is why I mentioned classic Star Trek - which is my earliest recollection of Science Fiction.

Refreshingly, it seems tensions are starting to cool down now with everyone appearing a bit more introspective. I love this site. Great for the mental health - I wished I would have found it years ago. I was also hoping Fungo would post something on Deer hunting or bass fishing.
Tom,

Don't go away, just do as I do. I type a little babble every so often, to let ya'll know I'm still alive.

As far as this messageboard, it went down hill, when we had to be politically correct, and allow morons with an agenda, to remain as posters.

For those of you that don't know Tom (OPP), he is a good family man. He once drove two hours to watch my son pitch, in a high school game......for no other reason than to be a nice guy. I've since tried to pattern my life after him...but I hate the taste of 'dillas.

Keep me updated on Zach's doin's. You've got my email addy.

Chris (Gloveman), call me next week. I'll fill you in on the latest with the youngster.

Be good.......it beats the alternative.
David
Great post by RHP....My son is still a junior in high school. We have a way to go in the process I hope, and I would prefer not to stumble blindly in the dark. Without those who have been there before us, that's what we would have to do. I hope OPP and BigHit reconsider, as I enjoy their posts, and I think the place is better with them here. I don't agree with everyone, some posts drive me nuts, but you ignore and move on. Oh won't you stay...just a little bit longer...
OPP and BigHit,

I love you! Big Grin Oh boy, my friends on the forum now think I'm crazy, but it's almost Valentine's Day!

What I'm really trying to say is that although I don't really belong on the *HS* bbweb any longer either, since my son is now a college freshman pitcher, I have learned a lot from both of you and it is really a treasure to continue to read your posts here. You are both two of my favorite posters to learn from on this site, to try to help my son toward his dream, along with FutureBackMom, TigerPawMom, URKillingMeBlue, and a bunch of other people here who are just great. Please don't let the riff-raff dim your enthusiasm for the site. We need you!
walk

Remember why you are here . . . Baseball season is beginning! I'm so excited, I am going to have the pleasure of seeing my son's college team play their first games of the season in Florida in early March. This is how baseball makes me feel:
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Big Grin
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As someone who paid for my own college and law school education many years ago, it is sad to see that some of you, who have been giving me the best free education possible, are considering giving up sometime that you enjoy and find so gratifying. Just knowing how many families you have helped over the years should prevent you from concerning yourslves with those whose insecurities cause them to behave badly. Life is too short! Please continue to educate us.
MN Mom,
Regardless that your son has moved on, you add insight to this site. I also know, because you have told me, that you have learned quite a bit from being here, and I am sure that you can pass it on to others.
I don't remember seeing anything that this place was just for HS parents and players.
OPP and BigHit, we had our first official season baseball booster meeting last week. During a break I started talking to some parents about hsbaseballweb. They were hanging onto every word, taking down the website address, and very appreciative....I couldn't say enough good things to them about this site....and they were anxious to get here and learn too....I did add that there were some posters who were full of themselves, and/or always had to try and get the last word in about the wonderfulness of their way of dealing with baseball.....told them after a while it was easy to seperate the junk from the good stuff.

You guys contribute the good stuff.....and there is a need for you to keep on educating us....you should have been at the meeting! It all comes down to the kids anyway....doesn't it? My kid is going on to play college ball....so I'm not asking for us...we are a done deal....but you gotta know there are a lot of other young men who want to go on too, and need help. We got the most help from this site...honestly....SO STAY...and thank you.....
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.... you need to understand that conversations get boring sometimes and to spice it up people kind of enjoy controversy.
I'm guessing that Bob's purpose for creating this site was not to provide controversial entertainment for a few. Frown If a poster is bored, I'd like to suggest that they go elsewhere to post something that's sole purpose is to stir things up for their own entertainment. There are millions of message boards and chat rooms in cyberspace that can accommodate that purpose. But then, its just my opinion. Smile
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arizonared ...
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My kid is going on to play college ball....so I'm not asking for us...we are a done deal....


You are not necessarily a "done deal". Bob has done a wonderful thing with this site, and has added forums and features that provide information for everybody that can benefit their sons as they pursue their dreams. Some finish in high school, some in college, and some are blessed to have the opportunity to play at the next level. We can all learn from others who have been along the same roads our sons wish to travel.

OPP and BigHit, both of whom I have communicated with through private messages, offer valuable information and insight into the "game of the game". Their sons, both of whom were drafted out of high school, have been there and done that, and they have the T-shirts to prove it. Other websters have sons who were drafted at various levels in college ... from JUCO to 4 year schools. We can all benefit from all of these people if we are willing to put our own baggage aside and read and absorb the information with open minds. Posters like OPP and BigHit have no personal agenda on this site ... their experiences would most likely be considered "done deals", but we can continue to learn from them. I know I do on a regular basis.

Hopefully they will not leave us, but if they choose to do so, I can understand why. So if they do, I just want to thank them both for all the information and education they have provided me, and I hope that they will still be available to take my "personal calls" ...
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FutureBackMom, I'm not sure of what you are trying to tell me..... I think you are preaching to the choir...and that maybe you should re-read my post.

Does your son play at The Hanger? We lived in Lancaster for a few years and were at the first game ever played there....lots of fun and good baseball. Hope he has a great season...
In addition to what FBM says about not being a done deal- Some of us come in as newbies- dreadfully wet behind the ears! Wink

We listen, we learn, we research and study, we learn who we respect enough to ask for and take advise from, we make some grand friends along the way, and then hopefully we GIVE BACK! Smile

I'm not fool enough to think I can ever give back when it comes to the "mechanics of a good swing, or pitch etc". My mind clouds over when I see rotational or linear Roll Eyes WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? pull_hair

But I can give back in other ways, and contribute in many ways.

Tenndad, with his great sense of humor- in fact the whole Tenn site has a lot of quick wits!

OPP is always generous- sorry OPP but I always think of Armidillos when I see your name!! (or is it a possum??)

Big- my friend who has shared so much. You bring a sensibility with your posts. I like to see your take on things and respect your outlook.
When my son had a less than stellar outing a while back, you helped to put it into perspective- and you have rejoiced in his success. As a MOM I thank you for talking to him before showcases and big games with helpful advice and encouragement. He likes your feedback and values your support.

Right now my daughter is being recruited- all I have learned here is making it so managable. I am well informed, know what to look for and ask for, and have the confidance that I am not shooting in the dark . It's a very intelligent way to negotiate this process and the resourses provided her have given me these skills. I hope to continue to give back when I can.

What a shame it has come to this. All these good people.....
Hey!!!

I nearly walked away a number of times but was always compelled to return after a cooling off period--- a few rabble rousers is all it is--yeah I will fight their attitudes because that is my nature and they do not belong here--but there is more good than bad here-- ladies and gents--those you are thinking of leaving --don't !!!!!-- we stick together and the trouble makers will leave.
arizonared ...

I guess my point was that even tho your son is going on to college, his story is not a "done deal".

Our son finished his first season at The Hanger and we hope that he gets to start this season there as it is only 105 miles from our front door, and they compete against teams within 1/2 hour from our house. He heads to Tucson on Friday and awaits his assignment ... we can only hope it is close, but will get to wherever he is assigned at least once.
FutureBack.Mom, I probably mis-stated "done deal". Was just trying to make the point that I was not asking them to stay for us, but for all the other players coming up...the 06's, 07's, etc....we still have to decide which college...and we think there will be a few more...so it's down to decisions for us...and this site is helpful in that regard too....it's just a lot less stressful now.....knowing he will go on and play....and that's what I meant by "done"....we are done worrying!

I try and contribute to the site, and will continue to do so....but....my knowledge of the game is very limited....that's why contributers like you, BigHit, TR, TPM and OPP, and many others, are so important....

Finally, "done deals" are probably relative.....your son looks to Tucson, while mine looks to law school after college....I think the world could use more ball players than lawyers....but he didn't ask my permission this time....again, good luck and best wishes for your son.
PIC,

You wonder why your name is mentioned? I am not even one of your detractors but when I read what you recently wrote, I just had to call you on it but you've yet to respond.

In your few paragraphs you managed to demean everyone from union workers and blue collar workers to baseball lovers.

Once again, here is one more chance to respond. Do you stand by what you said and how you said it, or would you like to take this opportunity to make a fresh start?

Here is my original post....

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PIC,

You write,

quote:

I pause all the time, take a moment to understand the underlying meaning of a post and usually find it to just be another attempt at insult or contemptousness for civility.

Look Mr. Hokieone, I know exactly why I'm being attacked on a personal level. People feel insecure when dealing with someone they perceive is trying to be uppity...but I refuse to act as a lowly uneducated peon from below the border just satisfy there own environmental comfort zone.

I didn't go all those years to school, spend 30 years in Hi-tech, to now, all of a sudden try to pretend that I'm a blue collar union member.

I am who I am, and I have dealt with much tougher guys then this crowd believe me.

Men who run companies are a lot tougher then wannabe coaches and BB hangers-on.

End quote

PIC,

You come up with some good stuff and build a little credibility and then you p i s s it all away with one of the most self centered, egotistical few paragraphs this board may have ever seen. In one quick swoop you demean others while believing that you are elevating your stature.

With you being the self appointed, educated historian among other things, I challenge you to reread what you wrote and tell us what you think Abraham Lincoln would have thought about it.

Would Abe deem your words worthy of an educated statesman or would he believe they would more likely originate from a simple fool?
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OPP and Big,

I don't care about agendas, I don't care how wonderful someones son is that won't name who they are.

I have met Zack, have a "connection" without having ever met OPP or Big.

Simple stuff, please continue to give your love and knowledge of the game. Give to us that want and appreciate it. My boys are not big time, just guys who love the game with parents who love and respect it as well.

If the board has gone "down hill" it is because guys like Leftydad have left.

OPP and Big, please say it ain't so!
Gosh darn Pic... you tell us that you are a person....who ignores the onslaught of insults, and defamation toward your ethnic background and whatever else you feel offended by....you portray yourself, via your computer, as a man who prevails beyond criticism and defamation to offer his wisdom....a true hero of this site......a moderator.....one with constructive opinions....a civil person...without rancor....who despite past persecutions...favors us with return visits.....who speaks to us in many syllable words, via the computer, about his opinions....his wisdom on the subject of baseball....

....but now you say....I, and possibly others here are not "real".....so who the heck are you talking to Pic? Maybe you should just pack it all in....and find another site...where your perception of reality is matched by your presumptuousness....gosh darn it Pic...you got me using them big words too....
Pic...I give up! Your show of intelligence via your vocabulary...unknown to me and probably most of the English speaking world....clearly shows....you are something else...I, and all the cacti I live among....we salute you...but could you still find another site? I really don't think we deserve you here...thanks...
"Well we might have a fellow sojourner in profunctory macinations with a wry twist of indulgent libido."

The sentence would be easier to comprehend if the voluminous words you used were spelled correctly. It would increase the level of comprehension were the following words used.


Main Entry: per·func·to·ry
Pronunciation: p&r-'f&[ng](k)-t(&-)rE
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin perfunctorius, from Latin perfungi to accomplish, get through with, from per- through + fungi to perform -- more at PER-, FUNCTION
1 : characterized by routine or superficiality : MECHANICAL <a perfunctory smile>
2 : lacking in interest or enthusiasm
- per·func·to·ri·ly /-t(&-)r&-lE/ adverb
- per·func·to·ri·ness /-t(&-)rE-n&s/ noun

Main Entry: mach·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: "ma-k&-'nA-sh&n, "ma-sh&-
Function: noun
1 : an act of machinating
2 : a scheming or crafty action or artful design intended to accomplish some usually evil end <backstage machinations and power plays that have dominated the film industry -- Peter Bogdanovich>
synonym see PLOT

True genius is not talking over everybody's head. It is helping even the simplest and humblest to understand. That is true genius. What you do is superficial, condescending, and only done to help bolster your shattered self image.

Naploeon used to keep an uneducated foot soldier as an aide. He would not let his orders go out until that aide understood the importance of his orders. You see, he figured if the simple aide could understand, anybody could.

What really amzes me is the way that you have managed to hijack another thread with your "look at me" posts.

OPP and others, I don't blame you for not posting here I have seen several of you have your son's attacked simply because the other poster did not like your post. I have seen posters told that they are living vicariously through their son's as if it is some twisted plot. I do not post often, and probably will not again, I will read and ignore the blustering, babbling type. Good day!
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Originally posted by Will:
I once posted that on occassion I sat by myself behind the right field fence as to not have to listen to people criticizing the coach or whining about their kids playing time etc. etc. I was once regarded as the unsociable parent. Look at what is going on here. Is there a right field fence on this sight?


You bet there is Will, If you look under the ignore the morons sign, you'll see me in my lawn chair. Come on over I have an extra sandwich if your hungry.
For the last several months there has been a lot of bickering, a lot of threatening to delete posts, a lot of threatening to leave the site. In my opinion, the 'Site Gods' are just as guilty as the 'Flamers'.
Jeeze, people, how about everyone quit the whining and carry on like adults instead of a bunch of four year olds? It's difficult to take anyone seriously lately.
This entire thread just sounds SO childish. Now - feel free to blast away.
Two days, two hours, and counting, till Pitchers and catchers report. Wonderful.

7 days till son number 2 officially starts high school practice. Wonderful.

Who knows how long till son number 1 gets on the collegiate pitching rubber officially, but he will get his shot. Wonderful.

The Golden Rule still the same today as when given to us over 2000 years ago. Wonderful.


P.S. to Pic: I too had a collegiate athletic background, and have also enjoyed the benefits of a good education, and might even match you educationally, but that is of no consequence. For all of our education and wordsmithing, the most valuable thing we can do when we attempt to communicate thoughts and ideas is to communicate them effectively so that the message we intend to convey finds its target. I fear your message is getting lost in its verbal fury. Most of us come to this wonderful forum, pertaining to the world's greatest game, to try to help others, to whatever limited extent we can, and to be helped, and nothing more. Advice, thoughts and comments that are agenda-free, seem to be almost univerally well-received here, even if not necessarily accepted. If you are getting verbally bashed, honestly and objectively look at your posts and ask why. You're smart, and you will see you're speaking so loudly that you can't be heard.
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Where have all the old posters gone, long time passing?
Where have all the old posters gone, long time ago?
Where have all the old posters gone?
Young posters have picked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?

Where have all the old posters gone, long time passing?
Where have all the old posters, long time ago?
Where have all the old posters gone?
Gone to college, minor leagues, and pros everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?


The line it is drawn the curse it is cast
The slow one now will later be fast
As the present now will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin'
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are a' changin'

Listen to the music.
Folks, when I want drama I watch Lifetime Channel movies!!

I like to think that I don't fit into any of the categories that somebody listed ealy in this thread, but I'm sure there may be a few out there who would put me into one or more of them.

PiC.....occasionally you soften up your attitude. Perhaps stress at work or in the home leads to the edge you bring here....in spurts, though, like most good hitters!!

You can't fool me though, when you use the expanded vocabulary. Your posts regularly show a lack of knowledge of our language, especially regarding the use (or incorrect use) of every day words (ie. to, too, and two......etc.). I notice them, and it isn't a big deal; many people do that. It is inconsistent with your attempts to impress us with your vocabulary!
Chicks,
I've read your posts that started this whole mess and, you do not speak for me. The posters you complain about are the same posters who helped us, with their advise, get our son to the next level of college ball. I appreciate them, and if that makes me a follower...fine...I'll take my place in the wagon train. Their advice is still pertinent....the formula does not change. The more input, the more experiences we can hear about...the better too....

I'm going to ask one more time....it is about the kids....right?
Chicks, I can standby and take all kinds of stuff.... because I come here for help, for my kid. I'll admit it was a little rough going when I first started posting...but Chicks....we learned so much here...so much information. It isn't fair that this is happening to the site...there are too many other kids, younger...still coming up...who should have the same opportunities to the information we found here...

You need to give us newbies some credit...we really can seperate the good and the bad. We can distinguish the personal agendas from the informative ones...

I can also take egos, inflated and otherwise if they are wrapped around information my son needs....to move on.

Please guys, let's keep this site going....positive and informative. It is after all for the kids....I don't mean to sound repetitive....but I'm truly hoping that the concept...for the kids... will take hold and we can turn this around.

I'm quilty of getting negative sometimes myself, and I'll work on it....'cause it isn't about me....
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Hey, I agree with you 100%. The problem with these particular moderators is that they are too opinionated and become emotionally involved in the topics. They will say "We are posters too and have an opinion". Then, when they disagree, they attack and delete, in order to win their emotional contest. This is the primary problem people have with them. Their followers go along because they have an agenda and think that "certain" folks in the mainstream can get their kids to the next level. In my opinion, a moderator should reframe from involvement and do their duties of enforcing policy instead of site control. They should choose what role they want to play here. They should relinquish their control for fair debate purposes and put things on an even keel. The reason my posts hit with such a punch is because they know I do not have an agenda and that what I say is the truth


Chicks-LTLB,

Do you really believe what you are typing? There is a hidden agenda? We believe that certain folks on this web site will help bring our kids to the next level, because of their influence? Incredible.....I've seen it all, now.

In the real world, if you enter a room of unfamiliar people, and you begin talking trash or taking cheap shots, you will be alienated by the majority. That's no different on a message board. It's that simple....with no other hidden agenda.

Do some posters step out of line....yes. Do some moderators, including myself, over react....of course. Is there a hidden agenda....if there is, I must have missed the secret meeting.

Be good,
David Marshall
Perhaps I've missed them, perhaps we have wildly different interpretations of what a baseball post is, but I haven't seen deletions involving opinions on the mechanics of playing the game or methods of assisting a player to whichever 'next level' they aspire to. The deletions and locked threads involve name-calling, malicious sarcasm, and anonymous/unsubstantiated declarations of superiority: simple rudeness. There is no reason for rudeness to be tolerated.

Has anybody got an example of an opinion deleted? One that isn't colored with 'I'm right and you're wrong' jabs?

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