Here's the NAIA Handbook.
See Article 5 of the Bylaws for eligibility and transfer requirements.
The requirements are too convoluted to easily summarize, but basically, the NAIA likes for players (regular or transfer) to have averaged 12 hours per semester in the previous two semesters of attendence. There are loopholes.
YGD, I see now where you're coming from. You're specifically commenting on the scenario where a player at a 4 year school wants to transfer, and then possibly transfer again. In that case, as you say, the player should probably try to avoid a 4-4-4 transfer. The second transfer, if to a D1 or D2 NCAA school, will typically require one year in residence. D3 only requires academic and athletic eligibility at the previous institution.
On the other hand, 4-2-4 transfers can typically be accomplished without sitting out, although to transfer to a D1, the player needs to get an AA degree.
NAIA Baseball is very similar to Division II baseball. It's best explained like this: The best (Top 15) NAIA teams are better than the best (Top 15) Division II Teams; The worst (bottom 40) aren't nearly as good as the worst (bottom 40) Division II teams; everywhere in between are about equal. If you look at the number of players drafted each year out of NCAA Div. II vs. NAIA they seem to switch off who gets more drafted. I know that in California, the NAIA teams (GSAC) have been better than the NCAA Div. II teams in California (CCAA). Most coaches from the CCAA would admit this, I've personally heard some say it. If you do not believe me you should check out the corresponding teams' records vs. each other. Div. III is no where near DII or the NAIA. This is simply to difficult a task for the D III to do because they do not have athletic scholarships.
Baseball 2000,
Thanks for the perspective. Since you're a coach, how many NAIA and D2 programs have baseball, just curious?
Thanks for the perspective. Since you're a coach, how many NAIA and D2 programs have baseball, just curious?
I'm not sure of the exact number, however there are websites that will state how many. I believe each has somewhere around 250 programs.
Hi everbody!
Does some one know what are the best NAIA schools? For baseball obviously!
I'm talking about the top schools that can compete with good D1 and D2 schools!
Does some one know what are the best NAIA schools? For baseball obviously!
I'm talking about the top schools that can compete with good D1 and D2 schools!
What's that video .. o.O ??????????
And.. ok it was funny!!! but I'm talking pretty seriously.. that was a serious question! please!
Flav...
Maybe this will help you out. These teams on any given day can play with D1 and D2 programs.
Top NAIA programs
Maybe this will help you out. These teams on any given day can play with D1 and D2 programs.
Top NAIA programs
Thank you so much!
While I don't believe any NAIA team could win league in the top D1 leagues, they can win. Last year Lewis Clark State College, ID was 2-0 vs D1
YoungGunDad,
How do you know that those NAIA schools are the best?
I mean .. that have the top programs and stuff..
How do you know that those NAIA schools are the best?
I mean .. that have the top programs and stuff..
In Terms of getting kids drafted what are the top ten NAIA schools?
quote:Originally posted by kt333:
In Terms of getting kids drafted what are the top ten NAIA schools?
The program does not get a player drafted, it is the player! If you are playing for a winning program and you are draft material you will be seen.
BOF,
I don't think I can agree with giving the credit to the player, if I am correctly understanding your post.
My view and opinion is that there are college coaches who really stand out in developing players and getting them to the next level. Of course, the player has to do his part and then some.
On the other hand, there are coaches and programs where the opposite result occurs and, again, I am certain that the player has to do his part in this result, also.
Based on our experience and what I have observed about college baseball, I think coaching is a very important aspect of developing players to get to the next level or getting the player to perform at his highest possible level,even if the player does not get drafted.
The opposite can also occur and perhaps does, far too often.
It is in this aspect that, in my opinion, much of the friction and confusion can develop between players and coaches. Good college coaches see ability in players that the players don't see in themselves. Through various mean, some obvious and some not so obvious, the coaching staff pushes players harder than they have ever been pushed. The coaches set standards of play higher than the player sets for himself, even though they are using similar language.
It isn't necessarily a process that is friendly, so to speak, because it is so result driven.
The more successful programs and coaches, in my view, do a better job of having the largest number of players get through this process where the player, the coaches and the program all succeed.
As it relates to NAIA, two of the top in consistently having players drafted are Lewis Clark in Idaho and Oklahoma City University, but I am sure there are others.
I don't think I can agree with giving the credit to the player, if I am correctly understanding your post.
My view and opinion is that there are college coaches who really stand out in developing players and getting them to the next level. Of course, the player has to do his part and then some.
On the other hand, there are coaches and programs where the opposite result occurs and, again, I am certain that the player has to do his part in this result, also.
Based on our experience and what I have observed about college baseball, I think coaching is a very important aspect of developing players to get to the next level or getting the player to perform at his highest possible level,even if the player does not get drafted.
The opposite can also occur and perhaps does, far too often.
It is in this aspect that, in my opinion, much of the friction and confusion can develop between players and coaches. Good college coaches see ability in players that the players don't see in themselves. Through various mean, some obvious and some not so obvious, the coaching staff pushes players harder than they have ever been pushed. The coaches set standards of play higher than the player sets for himself, even though they are using similar language.
It isn't necessarily a process that is friendly, so to speak, because it is so result driven.
The more successful programs and coaches, in my view, do a better job of having the largest number of players get through this process where the player, the coaches and the program all succeed.
As it relates to NAIA, two of the top in consistently having players drafted are Lewis Clark in Idaho and Oklahoma City University, but I am sure there are others.
IFD. OK I get your point, but I would think winning programs also develop players. If a player is going the NAIA route and thinks he is draftable then obviously he would want to go to a winning program. At least that is what I have seen out here in the West. CLU, Pomona, come to mind.
Sure, I would agree with those thoughts.
But we also need to keep in mind what Corbin did at Vanderbilt and what more than a few are thinking Bakich can do at Maryland.
A new coach, with a winning background and adequate resources, can be hired into a losing baseball program and make a difference.
On a smaller scale, Trinity U, where our son attended, was a perennial losing program. They hired Pete Hughes(now at Virgina Tech) and Tim Scannell and have had one losing season since 1997, while also having 9 recruits drafted since 2001, which is a pretty solid number for a DIII program.
The question for the player is how do you know you are getting a Hughes, Scannell or Corbin because there are many situations where losing or at least mediocrity continues from one staff to the next.
But we also need to keep in mind what Corbin did at Vanderbilt and what more than a few are thinking Bakich can do at Maryland.
A new coach, with a winning background and adequate resources, can be hired into a losing baseball program and make a difference.
On a smaller scale, Trinity U, where our son attended, was a perennial losing program. They hired Pete Hughes(now at Virgina Tech) and Tim Scannell and have had one losing season since 1997, while also having 9 recruits drafted since 2001, which is a pretty solid number for a DIII program.
The question for the player is how do you know you are getting a Hughes, Scannell or Corbin because there are many situations where losing or at least mediocrity continues from one staff to the next.
Just some numbers to look at that will help answer kt333's question and incase anyone else out there was curious about the actual numbers:
I found these numbers on the NAIA website, it took some digging to gets these and 2006 is as far back as I could find.
2009 had 46 players drafted
2008 had 34 players drafted
2007 had 42 players drafted
2006 had 24 players drafted
Total NAIA Players Drafted in 4 years 146
Total NAIA Colleges involved in the draft 62
In the 2006 page that I got the 06 numbers from it said that over the past several years that there has been an average of 30+ Players selected in the MLB draft.
If we go by the past 4 drafts the top 10 schools would be:
1.) Lewis & Clark 20
2.) Oklahoma City 8
3.) Cumberland 6
Point Loma of Nazerene 6
Azusa Pacific 6
7.) Lubbock Christian 5
8.) Lee University 4
9.) Biola 3
Faulkner 3
Corban 3
Embry-Riddle 3
Tennessee Wesleyan 3
Bellevue 3
Concordia 3
Southern Polytechnic 3
I found these numbers on the NAIA website, it took some digging to gets these and 2006 is as far back as I could find.
2009 had 46 players drafted
2008 had 34 players drafted
2007 had 42 players drafted
2006 had 24 players drafted
Total NAIA Players Drafted in 4 years 146
Total NAIA Colleges involved in the draft 62
In the 2006 page that I got the 06 numbers from it said that over the past several years that there has been an average of 30+ Players selected in the MLB draft.
If we go by the past 4 drafts the top 10 schools would be:
1.) Lewis & Clark 20
2.) Oklahoma City 8
3.) Cumberland 6
Point Loma of Nazerene 6
Azusa Pacific 6
7.) Lubbock Christian 5
8.) Lee University 4
9.) Biola 3
Faulkner 3
Corban 3
Embry-Riddle 3
Tennessee Wesleyan 3
Bellevue 3
Concordia 3
Southern Polytechnic 3
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