NCAA 25% Minimum if Offered.

25% is the minimum. So, they can offer someone 26%. It does not need to be in 25% increments.

My understanding it is the % of the total cost of attending, room, board, classes, books and fees.

It is a fraction of one equivalency which is the total of room, board, tuition and fees, and $400 for books. That is less than the Cost of Attendence which typically includes some money for late night pizza runs, laundry, a trip home, etc.

The school has the option to calculate the value of an equivalency based on the actual cost to the player, or on the average cost for all students. If the school charges different tuition for in-state and out of state students, the equivalency is computed separately for those two groups.

So, 3fg, that means there is no way for the athletic department to use different means to calculate the limits by attributing out-of-state tuition rates to in-state atheletes? I always wondered about that.

Also, that means the dollar value of a scholarship to an out of state athlete is higher than the same scholarship to an in-state athlete, right?

Does the 25% minimum rule also apply to DII?

The issue of in state versus out of state tuition is addressed in the instructions for filling out the squad lists, so I'm not sure of the exact rule. But it seems that an in state player can't be assigned out of state tuition for purposes of calculation.

The same percentage scholarship has a higher dollar cost to the school for an out of state player, but for partial scholarships the out of pocket expenses to the player are also higher. So it depends on what you mean by "dollar value".

The 25% rule only applies to D1 baseball.

This has been discussed before, but the difference between in-state and out-of-state varies from school to school.
My Son is an out-of-state resident and is on baseball scholarship.
His percentage is based on the out-of-state costs, which fortunately is reduced by a reciprocal agreement with our state.

As I understand it, the cost to the Athletic Department is based on the %, not the $$.

In other words, at a $20,000/year school, a 50% in-state scholly is worth $10,000, and the cost to the kid is $10,000.
If out-of-state cost is $30,000, then a 50% scholly is worth $15,000, but cost the kid $15,000.

The cost to the Baseball program in both cases is .5 of the 11.7.

Does that sound right?

gitnby,
That sounds right to me. The consensus here seems to be that the % number is a percentage Room/Board/Tuition/Fees from what I can gather from the posts. That was my main question originally. I was asking this because my son received a written offer that was a percentage of tuition. I guess I would then have to add all the other costs up and see what that percentage figure would be of the total of the Room/Board/Tuition and Fees. That would then be what the real percentage that the program would be offering my son. Does that make sense? If I do that i think it comes to between 30 and 40%.

All of the D1 offers that my Son received were a % of total.

Of those, the written ones spelled out exactly what was being paid, and what our costs would be.

Every college's website should list an approximate total cost figure.

Not sure why they would present offer that way?
Maybe it sounds better since the % is higher?

gitnby,

That is my thinking exactly that it is something that may look a bit better on paper initially. Did the offers that you had presented to you show all 4 years and the allocation or was it a one year plan put on paper?

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Originally posted by gitnby:

The cost to the Baseball program in both cases is .5 of the 11.7.

Does that sound right?

Yes and incomplete. The baseball and athletic departments have a budget in dollars. Although the cost to the scholarship budget of 11.7 is .5, the cost to the baseball and athletic fiscal budget is the dollar amount. For this reason, it behooves coaches to recruit in state.

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Originally posted by CenPAPete:
gitnby,

That is my thinking exactly that it is something that may look a bit better on paper initially. Did the offers that you had presented to you show all 4 years and the allocation or was it a one year plan put on paper?

All of these scholarships are 1 year renewable contracts.
We did have one that showed what the value would be over 4 years, assuming he would be there for all 4 years.

Does the player have to get at least 25% baseball scholarship?

ie. Can a player receive 30% academic $$ and 10% baseball $$?

fillsfan,

My understanding is that for D1 the minimum is 25%, this does not include academic money. As noted earlier in this post it can be anything 25% or over, 26.5%, 26.5%,96%.

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Originally posted by gitnby:

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Originally posted by CenPAPete:
gitnby,

That is my thinking exactly that it is something that may look a bit better on paper initially. Did the offers that you had presented to you show all 4 years and the allocation or was it a one year plan put on paper?

All of these scholarships are 1 year renewable contracts.
We did have one that showed what the value would be over 4 years, assuming he would be there for all 4 years.

Have you ever heard of a school stating in writing that if a 5th academic year is required to finish a degree they will cover the tuition and fees 100%. this is even if a red shirt year is not used. In other words the player would be done playing baseball for the school but just attending school the fifth year to finish up and get his degree.

Not going to happen in D1!

That scholly would count as 1 of the 27 allowed and 1 of the max 35 on the roster, not to mention the fact that the player may not be eligible if he has used up his 4 years.

The 5th year or extra semester can be on scholarship but not an athletic scholarship. It's in a schools best interest to get the player to graduate to help the APR.

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Originally posted by gitnby:
Not going to happen in D1!

That scholly would count as 1 of the 27 allowed and 1 of the max 35 on the roster, not to mention the fact that the player may not be eligible if he has used up his 4 years.

My understanding from talking to the Athletic Academic Advisor is that it is an agreement between the school and the NCAA that they will cover this fifth year tuition and fees if necessary to get the degree. I agree it is likely because it is the schools best interest to see that the student graduates. What I was told is that they consider playing a D1 sport and going to school full time to be having two full time jobs and they do not realistically expect that the athlete can take 16 credits per semester every semester which is what is required to graduate in 4 years. I was pleasantly surprised and impressed to see that offered but after thinking about it it seems fair. I imagine that the majority of schools may not offer this up front. I was told this was not just for Baseball players at the school but also for any of the schools D1 athletes. I am curious now to know if anyone else has heard of this?