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There will certainly be reprecussions I am sure !!
There will certainly be reprecussions I am sure !!
Successful college baseball programs are going to have a tough time. Transfers and exits to pro-ball are the norm, rather than the exception. In addition, the loss of a full scholarship from the 11.7 available is a serious blow, because that scholarship is likely divided for a number of players. The NCAA made no distinction in the numbers of scholarships allowed. Losing 1 in 11.7 is a lot worse than losing 1 in 85 (football). By the same token, corresponding women's sports will not be penalized as severely because they generally have more scholarships allowed. I heard on the radio today that the rule will even penalize a team who has a player in GRADUATE SCHOOL who elects to leave before finishing that degree. Folks, this is screwed up.
Typical NCAA stuff!!!!!!
Maybe in a roundabout way, this could be the beginning of an opening to address the issue of so few scholarships for baseball. How would the schools baseball programs go about that? I'm not naive enough to think that issue hasn't already been beaten to death, but this absurdity (losing schollys when they have so few to begin with) is a good illustration of how bad baseball has it.
Sounds like a sc***ed up mess to me.
Sounds like a sc***ed up mess to me.
they were a month early releasing that article - April 1 would'a been a better fit
so what will happen when a program and it's players are penalized with "loss of scholarships"?? - -
more players will transfer or quit - - duh??
isn't it great to have the NCAA looking out for the atheletes??
do those NCAA guys actually get paid for coming up with ideas like that??
so what will happen when a program and it's players are penalized with "loss of scholarships"?? - -
more players will transfer or quit - - duh??
isn't it great to have the NCAA looking out for the atheletes??
do those NCAA guys actually get paid for coming up with ideas like that??
BEE
Do the math for the Clearinghouse--how many students register just to be sure in case they play a sport in college ? And keep in mind it is boys and girls for all Division I and II sports
I also think you would be shocked at what Mr Brand makes--
Do the math for the Clearinghouse--how many students register just to be sure in case they play a sport in college ? And keep in mind it is boys and girls for all Division I and II sports
I also think you would be shocked at what Mr Brand makes--
I used the baseball scholarship limits in my example above. An even more absurd scenario is with men's tennis. I heard on the radio that they are allotted 4.5 schollys. If they lose a scholarship, they've lost over 20 PERCENT of their scholarships.
JMO -
They need to take a serious looks at:
1) Not penalizing schools who have athletes pursuing advanced degrees.
2) Not penalizing schools who have athletes that transfer or go pro that are otherwise in good academic standing.
3) Making the penalties proportional to the number of scholarships allotted to the sport.
JMO -
They need to take a serious looks at:
1) Not penalizing schools who have athletes pursuing advanced degrees.
2) Not penalizing schools who have athletes that transfer or go pro that are otherwise in good academic standing.
3) Making the penalties proportional to the number of scholarships allotted to the sport.
I'll add one to Bizazz' list.
#4 Making the number of sholarships proportional to the number of ahtletes a program can carry.
#4 Making the number of sholarships proportional to the number of ahtletes a program can carry.
You can lose up to 10% of your scholarships rounded up. That means 2 for baseball, 9 for football, etc. The waivers will make the impact alot less than the 10%. Also, remember the member institutions of the NCAA have voted on all these rule that seem crazy to me and maybe even you, but the school presidents have some plan I feel sure.
What I suspect is the minority students will be impacted the most. While most schools are trying to increase minority enrollment this plan will make a coach think long and hard about that border line grade player or even a player who is looking for a stepping stone to the pros. Here in the south and most everywhere else big time ball is played you see 85% of the football team being minority. So the scholarship loss affects minority students the most.
What I suspect is the minority students will be impacted the most. While most schools are trying to increase minority enrollment this plan will make a coach think long and hard about that border line grade player or even a player who is looking for a stepping stone to the pros. Here in the south and most everywhere else big time ball is played you see 85% of the football team being minority. So the scholarship loss affects minority students the most.
Folks
The HS grades now will become critical than ever
One of our players just visited two schools this weekend--the boy has a 4.1 GPA on a 4.0 scale along with a 1400 plus SAT-- I would say his stock just went up overnight because of this
Players with good academics can get academic scholarships and the baseball coach can use that in lieu baseball money---
Work hard in the classroom guys !
The HS grades now will become critical than ever
One of our players just visited two schools this weekend--the boy has a 4.1 GPA on a 4.0 scale along with a 1400 plus SAT-- I would say his stock just went up overnight because of this
Players with good academics can get academic scholarships and the baseball coach can use that in lieu baseball money---
Work hard in the classroom guys !
Seems to me that, when it comes to baseball, the biggest impact might be on transfers out.
You really can't control the number of players that choose to go pro, unless you set yourself up that you won't have any.
And, while the goal is to graduate every player, it is unrealistic to do so. Take a look at the national grad rate, the school's grad rate and the program's grad rate. Even if you need to improve on it, it's still probably not a huge percentage increase.
But programs where coaches annually play with scholarship totals of returning players should and, I hope, do get burned with this.
We can talk all we want about trying to hike the 11.7, but it's not going to happen (and we'll be lucky to keep what we have). And there always going to be some kids who transfer. But if 20 percent (I'm guessing here) of transfers are caused by scholarship changes, that would seem to be too high. I'm talking only about kids whose totals go down because they didn't put up the numbers they were expected to. If a kid causes trouble, or can't mix in the locker room, or is a liability in the classroom, that's one thing. But that's not what I'm talking about here.
We talk all the time here about scholarships being one-year deals. It's time to change that.
You really can't control the number of players that choose to go pro, unless you set yourself up that you won't have any.
And, while the goal is to graduate every player, it is unrealistic to do so. Take a look at the national grad rate, the school's grad rate and the program's grad rate. Even if you need to improve on it, it's still probably not a huge percentage increase.
But programs where coaches annually play with scholarship totals of returning players should and, I hope, do get burned with this.
We can talk all we want about trying to hike the 11.7, but it's not going to happen (and we'll be lucky to keep what we have). And there always going to be some kids who transfer. But if 20 percent (I'm guessing here) of transfers are caused by scholarship changes, that would seem to be too high. I'm talking only about kids whose totals go down because they didn't put up the numbers they were expected to. If a kid causes trouble, or can't mix in the locker room, or is a liability in the classroom, that's one thing. But that's not what I'm talking about here.
We talk all the time here about scholarships being one-year deals. It's time to change that.