NCAA Transfer Rules

People experience the NCAA transfer rules, along with the NCAA clock rules, everyday.

They are in place for a multitude of reasons, some good, some not so good. In the most ideal sense, they are in place to keep athletes from being lured from one school to another without a penalty. That penalty being losing 1 year off the players NCAA clock. That clock is, you have 5 years from the moment you begin classes as a full time student, to complete 4 years of competition in any sport.

Your sons clock started the first day of his freshman year. By the time he graduated, he had 4 of his 5 years used up and 3 of his 4 competition seasons used up.

Normally, if you transferred before graduation, you would be required to sit a full year before being allowed to play. If that were your sons case, his 5 year clock would run out.

However, if your son received a diploma and graduated from the first school, he should be allowed to transfer to a new school without the sit year being enforced...I believe. I have seen this done, most recently in my memory by the NC basketball player who played all 4 years, graduated and went to Syracuse to be their QB for 1 year. The obvious difference being, he switched sports. That may or may not be a factor, that's above my knowledge level...but there are those here who would know and they should chime in soon.

Best of luck,
Chip

Chip,
Thanks for your input.One piece of info I left out: We appealed thier decision and were also denied in the appeal process. So Much for the Meaning of "STUDENT" Athlete.

What was the reason for denying your son? Had his 5 year clock expired? Was there some factor we haven't heard about yet? Did they claim he had to sit a year before playing and that his clock would expire following the sit year?

Please give us a more complete view of the situation.

His 5 Year clock did not expire, and they never mentioned sitting a year. Also the NCAA did not and to my knowledge does not have to provide a written explanation. They did want him to stay at his current school but his current school did noy offer the Masters program he wanted . I talked with an Atty who deals with NCAA and he stated believe it or not they can be even tougher on Div 3 Players?? I just read about this Duke basketball Player named Paulus who played hoop 4 years then transfered to Syracuse for 1 year of Football !! Man Im confused .

Basicly NCAA determined that his need for transfering did not meet thier guidelines .

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Originally posted by John Wayne:
Basicly NCAA determined that his need for transfering did not meet thier guidelines .

I believe JH (site member) just graduated from a D3 and is now playing at a D1 where he's getting his M.A. due to having one year of eligibility remaining.

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Originally posted by John Wayne:
Basicly NCAA determined that his need for transfering did not meet thier guidelines .

This is what is confusing me...why are you referring to it as a transfer? If he graduated from the original school, he is under no obligation to continue there.

This is an example of trying to apply D1 rule to a player now at a D3 institution. Only D1 has a 5 year clock (others have a limitation of 10 full time semesters). D1, in some situations, allows post graduate transfer students to compete.

D3 does not allow transfer graduate/post baccalaureate students to play (14.1.9 in the D3 Manual).

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
This is an example of trying to apply D1 rule to a player now at a D3 institution. Only D1 has a 5 year clock (others have a limitation of 10 full time semesters). D1, in some situations, allows post graduate transfer students to compete.

D3 does not allow transfer graduate/post baccalaureate students to play (14.1.9 in the D3 Manual).

Is it true that I can play any rock and roll song by mastering 3 chords on the guitar?

One more year of High School and I could have really made something of myself...

Thanks again for all your input.I believe JH probably got a hardship waiver because of his past injury. I also know D1 has differant rules. D 3 Guys get no $$$$ and seem to be held to a different standard. which seems ridiculous.

3FG was on the money (as usual), as the Div. I rules are quite different than the Div. III rules.

Also, JH may not have needed a waiver because Div. I has a Graduate Student Exception that allows an athlete with eligibility remaining to compete at a school other than where they received their undergrad degree as long as they meet the other requirements for the Exception. (Many athletes desiring to compete elsewhere as a Grad Student wouldn't qualify for the Exception.)

John, I apologize for using your son's situation as an example, but this shows why it is good for athletes and parents to seek info here at HSBBW or on our website at www.informedathlete.com to inquire what options might, or might not, be available.

Rick,
Thanks . I just wonder why NCAA would not allow a Div 3 student that has fufilled his obligation to his team 3 years .Graduates , Decides that he wants to pursue his masters at a different school because the school he graduated from does not offer that Major cant play ball unless he stays at his current school and takes a major he really is not interested in ?? The masters program he wants to take is only 1 year rather than a 2 year program that he really doesnt want to major in. Also limits his financial burden by only going 1 year. Seems a shame that the NCAA rules for Div 3 would limit a kids options like that.

Russell Wilson, the QB for the Seattle Seahawks, graduated from NC State and then transferred to Wisconsin to pursue a Masters Degree and subsequently led them to Rose Bowl before going pro.

Other than the transfer from one D1 school to another D1 school, how is the Wilson case allowable and this case is not?

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Originally posted by Proud Dad 24:
Russell Wilson, the QB for the Seattle Seahawks, graduated from NC State and then transferred to Wisconsin to pursue a Masters Degree and subsequently led them to Rose Bowl before going pro.

Other than the transfer from one D1 school to another D1 school, how is the Wilson case allowable and this case is not?

As 3FG explained above...

The difference between D1 rules and D3 rules.

John, I don't know that I can give you a good explanation of why the NCAA doesn't allow this for Div. III other than to say that the Div. III schools as a group propose legislation and approve or reject the proposals. For whatever reason, the Div. III schools as a group must believe that they are not interested in having student-athletes compete beyond their undergraduate enrollment.