need huge help

First of all, welcome to the site!

As far as not getting your legs/using too much arm, I have pretty much the same problem, and I posted a simular question at the beginning of the week. The one standard response I had is that the hips should rotate before the shoulders do, so you use your core and legs to "pull" your shoulders and therefore add more velocity on your fastball. For a visual aid to this, look at the Casey Fossum picture floating around the forum, it is a great example. And as far as gaining arm strength, All I suggest is to throw all year round, which for me atleast, INCLUDES other sports (football). I see most arm strength improvement during football, not baseball.

I meant to tell you this in my first post.

If you want to see the thread with my question, its called "Driving with Lower Body". If you want to see the picture of Casey Fossum, its in a thread called "My Velocity".

Good Luck and I hope this helps.

First make sure you load up all your weight on your back side first. Then as your leg starts to come down from the balance lead with the front hip instead of the shoulder. You do not push off the rubber and pitching is not arm strength rather it is speed. To improve your speed work on moving your body faster with perfect timing. Long toss will not work nor will weighted balls.

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First make sure you load up all your weight on your back side first. Then as your leg starts to come down from the balance lead with the front hip instead of the shoulder. You do not push off the rubber and pitching is not arm strength rather it is speed.

Bustamove,

This is really advanced and useful even for lower level pitchers at amateur levels because if they learn this early on they will have much success later. The body comes forward by turning off the rubber and the other is a misconception about pushing off! Totally agree with you here! Leading the hips and positioning of lowerbody in delivery before shoulder turn is also very advanced but the absolute key to high velocity whether it be amateur or pro. You have to anchor the lowerbody, which houses the body's strongest muscles, you actually get a good shoulder turn and maximum arm-speed when finishing delivery if the sequence is done in this fashion! I have an example attaining the strongest possible resistance doing everything I just described of a big league pitcher who pitched for the Reds at the time it happened and you could hear the humerous bone pop in the upper-deck when it broke in half when he was coming forward by turning. Browning is the LHP I am speaking of who threw really hard, mid 90s in fact! This was an unfortunate occurance but you know just how strong Browning's lowerbody must have been because the bone-break came throwing against it(lowerbody) and I know he was a strong solid player who looked physically fit at time of break! This is an isolated incident so pitchers don't get alarmed at my example but do take calcium and develop strong bones in eating regimen then you will not have to be really concerned.

Good stuff Bustamove brother! Timing is everything Peace, Shep

Yes timing is everything, I think alot of people overlook this. Good timing also produces that smooth effortless looking delevery. Think of Miriano Rivera or Curt Schilling they are excellent examples of pitchers with good timing. I'll say it agian the biggest flaw I see in velocity and it's a simple thing is when in the stretch alot of youth pitchers do not get all of their weight loaded on their back leg. When you don't do this your head is too far forward when you rotate, this is a loss of 5-7 mph. Another problem in velocity is early hip rotation which kills velocity.

When a pitcher breaks his hands and arm action begins with the front forearm working up to it's target, should there be some lean i.e. front shoulder higher than back shoulder or should the shoulders be level?

Not sure if this is simply a matter of reference or right/wrong way. Thanks in advance.

What do you mean turning off the rubber? The back foot has to be in contact with the ground and parallel to the rubber as long as possible. The back heel shouldn't begin to lift till the pitcher gets close to landing. If it does lift too early you are getting early rotation which is a velocity killer.

Yes their should be some shoulder lean. Meaning the front shoulder is higher then the back. Make sure you are being explosive with your lower body.

Bustamove

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What do you mean turning off the rubber? The back foot has to be in contact with the ground and parallel to the rubber as long as possible. The back heel shouldn't begin to lift till the pitcher gets close to landing.

You are a professional. Board, listen to bustamove, he's the REAL DEAL!!!

Peace Brother, You have my attention! Shep

ok so most of you are saying open your hips sooner but what does the look like an i try to keep my shoulder closed an open my hips and i dont quite get it if you think im losing alot of velo without my legs phhh i cant wait to see myself with them so any pics of how to open my hips and use them would be great thank you danz

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Originally posted by danz:
ok so most of you are saying open your hips sooner but what does the look like

It looks like this picture of Casey Fossum. He has no muscle mass to speak of yet can throw like crazy...

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Originally posted by Bustamove:
First make sure you load up all your weight on your back side first. Then as your leg starts to come down from the balance lead with the front hip instead of the shoulder.

This looks like this picture of Bartolo Colon...