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BW Bob Williams500+ posts
In the previous discussions with Mr. or Mrs Wave, I started to think [that is dangerous for me] about education and baseball.

In my work as a Real Estate Investor and Baseball event organizer, I study trends.

Today, I research the new GM under 40 years of age.

1. Jon Daniels - Rangers graduated from Cornell
2. Theo Epstein - Red Sox graduated from Yale and U of San Diego Law School
3. Brian Cashman - Yankees Catholic U of America
4. Mark Shapiro - graduate from Princeton
5. Neal Huntington - degree from Amherst
6. Andrew Friedman - Rays graduate from Tulane
7. Josh Byrnes - Diamondbacks degree from Haverford
8. Billy Beane - accepted to Stanford before he signed with the Mets.

In today's baseball business the GM is required to adjust to the agents, the media, marketing and the TV networks professionals.

Baseball and business provides a wonderful opportunity to succeed.

Bob Williams
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R Rock-N-Fire10+ posts
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Who has done the most with the smallest of budgets.

Hey zombywoof, I didn't know it was so hard for you to figure out Bullwinkle's post. I'll put it in bold for you. WHO HAS DONE THE MOST WITH THE SMALLEST OF MARKETS.
I'm sure if the Rays could spend anywhere from $200 MILLION to A HALF OF A BILLION payroll we would be winning pennants on the regular too.

Let's stick with the subject at hand, O.K.

BTW, how did it feel last year when a team with a $45 million payroll beat the Red Sux and the Yankmee's?
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RJMRJMHSBaseballWeb member since 2007
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Originally posted by Rock-N-Fire:
quote:
Who has done the most with the smallest of budgets.

Hey zombywoof, I didn't know it was so hard for you to figure out Bullwinkle's post. I'll put it in bold for you. WHO HAS DONE THE MOST WITH THE SMALLEST OF MARKETS.
I'm sure if the Rays could spend anywhere from $200 MILLION to A HALF OF A BILLION payroll we would be winning pennants on the regular too.

Let's stick with the subject at hand, O.K.

BTW, how did it feel last year when a team with a $45 million payroll beat the Red Sux and the Yankmee's?
Many teams are capable of catching lightning in a bottle once. Last year is the only winning season in the Rays history. They're back below .500 again this year. Last year the Red Sox and Yankees had a lot of injuries. It opened the door for the Rays while they were playing well. Look back over the past five or ten years. The Red Sox and Yankees have positive track records. The Rays have one season.

Add in the Rays don't have many fans (don't let the post season, jump on the band wagon party fool you), and a weak tv and radio contract, I don't see how they can maintain their roster. There's a lot of talent they won't be able to financially afford to keep.
Bolts-Coach-PRBolts-Coach-PR10,000+ posts
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Originally posted by zombywoof:
Tampa is a one-year-wonder. After ten years of number one picks, they had to win sooner or later. However, it looks like the A.L. East is back to normal this year with Yanks-Redsox mixing it up with Tampa a non-fator.
You can tell on May 29th how the AL East is gonna pan out...? I can tell you being a Die-Hard Yankee-Fan, that this Rays team is far from being a "one-year-wonder"... Young, awesome, Major league talent, backed by one of the deepest Minor league systems in the game... Watch out for Baltimore in a few years too!
CADadCADad5,000+ posts
Getting back to the original point I think that Beane owes his success to both intelligence and a baseball background. It is a great combination. He's also got to be a master manipulator (said in a good way) to have pulled off some the trades that he has.

Tony LaRussa is another good example of intelligence combined with baseball background. There are also a lot of players who were quite intelligent but went the pro route instead of college. There is a tendency to have to blend in so it isn't always obvious during one's playing days.
BW Bob Williams500+ posts
A Billy Beane story.

In 1998 we hosted a 16 year old team from Beijing, China for a Goodwill Series in California.

The Oakland A' were kind to allow this China team to "work out" in Oakland stadium at 10 am.

Billy Beane observed the entire work out. Several years later, I organized the 1st American pro team for travel to China - the Mariners Class Everett team.

Pat Gillick, the Mariners GM was my Mariners contact.

The next year, my son a Mariners International scout signed the 1st China player to a professional contract.

My respect is for Billy Beane and Pat Gillick.
They operate under "great pressure".

The baseball GM has very difficult occupation
to balance the owner's demands, the media's persistent for fresh news, the agents desires for their clients and the fan approval.

Bob Williams
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